一圖對比頂級外線22歲前數據，威金斯陷入困境，全面性堪憂

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一圖對比頂級外線22歲前數據，威金斯陷入困境，全面性堪憂

The Andrew Wiggins Concern (in a graph)

少年威金斯的煩惱。22歲前至少打了6000分鐘，每百回合個人得分至少20分的球員數據對比

縱軸：每百回合得分

橫軸：每百回合所有除了得分外的數據（籃板+助攻+搶斷+封蓋）

[–]Bullsjroades26 77 指標 6小時前*

That"s interesting. So the first major concern obviously is that he contributes basically nothing but scoring.

The second concern being that for someone who contributes nothing but scoring, he"s not even close to the cast of "elite scorers".

有點意思啊。關於威金斯最大的一點擔憂，就是目前他除了得分基本沒有其他的貢獻。

而第二點擔憂就是，即使他只在得分上有貢獻，依然和那些頂級得分手有不小的差距。

[–]KingsJordanFarmarsEars 37 指標 6小時前

It"s concerning mainly because he was coming in with the idea he"d be an elite perimeter defender. He has all the tools. But his defense is pretty bad.

會有這樣的質疑，主要也是因為他曾被認為會成為精英級別的單防悍將。他的硬體設備齊全，但目前為止防守實在不敢恭維。

[–]Bulletsburnerfret 8 指標 5小時前

He needs at least a full season or two with Thibs.

他至少需要在錫伯杜手下再打一兩個賽季。

[–]76ersnosrevinella 15 指標 3小時前

If you could make bad defenders into good ones just by having a good coach, Thibs would be getting paid several million dollars more. It"s not that simple.

如果靠教練就能把一個防守糟糕的球員轉變為出色的防守球員，那麼錫伯杜至少還能多拿幾百萬美刀的薪水。事情沒有那麼簡單的。

[–]BullsFuzzy_Dunlops 19 指標 3小時前

He is only 21, I think it is safe to say that he will improve on defense under Thibs. We"re not saying he will go from bad to elite, but going from bad to mediocre would be a huge benefit with how well that team scores.

他才21歲啊，我覺得現在可以放心的說他能在錫伯杜手下改善防守。我們的意思也不是他能從一個糟糕的防守球員變成精英級的防守大獎，但至少能達到合格線，這對於森林狼這樣能得分的球隊就是巨大的提升了。

[–]TimberwolvesDualJ 27 指標 6小時前

Definitely a concern. He started off the season upping his rebounds and his assists a bit, but I think he"s leveled off a little. He"s still young so there"s time to improve but if he wants to become one of the top 5/10/15 players, he"s gotta do more stuff. Especially on those nights when his shot isn"t falling.

森林狼蜜：顯然這是值得大家去關注的事情。這賽季開始的時候，他的籃板和助攻稍有上升，現在我覺得有點趨於穩定了。他還很年輕，有的是時間去提升自己，但如果他想讓自己慢慢成為聯盟前15、前10、前5的球員，他需要做的事情是還有很多。尤其是在那些手感冰涼的比賽里，他要改善的地方還很多。

[–]Raptorsredekulous 13 指標 6小時前

I think he needs to train with Derozan in the off season. He had the exact same problem the first 3-4 years of his career. He eventually turned it around becoming a great rebounder for a guard and a decent passer. Derozan also became better at clogging passing lanes, atlthough his on-ball defense has always been iffy.

我覺得他應該在休賽期和德羅贊一起練練。他倆生涯前三四年的問題一毛一樣。但德羅贊最終讓自己變得更全面了，現在是一個後衛位置上出色的籃板手，也有一手靠譜的傳球。德羅贊在封堵傳球線路上現在做的也很不錯，當然他依然是一個不擅長有球防守的球員。

[–]Knicksihateallthethings 28 指標 4小時前

I mean, how disappointed would you be if 5 years from today Andrew Wiggins was just a taller Lou Will?

我就這麼問問，如果5年後威金斯就是一個高大版的路易斯威廉姆斯，大家會有多失望？

[–]TimberwolvesNillaThunda 56 指標 5小時前

He is 2 points per 100 possession behind Kobe when he was 22. Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant, one of the most prolific scorers to EVER PLAY THE GAME. No one questions Kobe"s rebounds or assists. Is Wiggins Kobe, no. But the fact they are being mentioned in the same chart says something.

If Wiggins stays on his current pace, he will be even with Kobe in terms of pts/100 at the end of his 3rd year in the league (equivalent in age to Kobe"s 4th). For reference Kobe averaged 22.5 his 4th year and 28.5 his 5th.

別鬧，威金斯和22歲的科比比，每百回合只少了2分。那是科比-黑曼巴-布萊恩特啊，歷史最強得分手之一。但沒有人質疑科比的籃板和助攻。威金斯是科比嗎？並不是。但他們在同一張圖表中出現至少說明些問題。

如果威金斯保持這樣的進步步伐，那麼在百回合得分這個數據上會逐漸和科比持平（和生涯第四年的科比持平哦）。順便再說一句，科比第四個賽季場均22.5分，第五個賽季28.5分。

[–]Raptorssensorship_please 32 指標 5小時前

No one questioned kobe"s defense either.

但是，可沒人質疑過科比的防守啊。

[–]CavaliersKarmaPoIice 6 指標 1小時前

2 points per 100 is a lot tho

而且，每百回合2分的差距其實很大了。

[–]BloodMossHunter 15 指標 3小時前

kobe was 18.

科比18歲進的聯盟。

[–]Incognitohero11 13 指標 6小時前

He"s above guys like Gianni"s/Beal/Holiday, but slightly below Kobe/Tmac. So maybe borderline elite?

威金斯至少還在字母哥、比爾、霍樂迪的上面，僅僅以微弱的劣勢排在科比、麥迪下面。所以現在差不多是在精英級的邊緣？

[–]Bucksdusters 50 指標 6小時前

Giannis isn"t really an elite scorer yet, more like a very good one. He is so valuable because he does everything well other than shooting.

字母哥目前還算不上是精英級的得分手，他最多算是個出色的得分手。現在字母哥的價值奇高，因為除了得分外，其他所有的事情他也做得非常出色。

[–]Heatiankstarr 13 指標 5小時前

I think Giannis is going to be way better than Wiggins by the time they both hit their primes.

我覺得兩人都達到巔峰的話，巔峰字母哥要比巔峰威金斯稍微出色那麼一點。

[–][OKC] Kyle SinglerA_Lax_Nerd 258 指標 6小時前

Josh Smith is a weird basketball player

約什史密斯真是個奇怪的籃球運動員。

[–][GSW] Stephen Curryreddit858 155 指標 5小時前

He was a very skilled player. He could pass, defend, was a good rebounder, and was extremely athletic. The only thing was, he took lots of bad shots and didn"t care to change that. He probably could have been a multiple-time All-Star if he curbed his shot selection.

他曾經是個有不錯技術的球員。能傳、能防、籃板出色，運動能力非常突出。唯一的問題是約什喜歡XJB投，而且並不打算改變自己這點陋習。如果他能在出手選擇上控制住自己，約什很可能成為多屆全明星球員。

[–]WarriorsMe_talking 14 指標 3小時前

By "bad shots" you really meaning taking 3s lol. =

你說的XJB投，應該就是很多的3分出手吧……=

[–]Cavaliersthirstythecop 12 指標 2小時前

He takes too many 3s but he also used to go for contested 2"s a lot as well.

他確實有很多3分出手，但他曾經也是個喜歡在內線扛著打2分的人啊。

[–]Knicksunc54 8 指標 1小時前

Basically he could have been Draymond Green but he decided to play like Melo.

本來他可以成為追夢格林式的球員，但他決定向甜瓜一樣打球……

[–][WAS] John Walllivefreeordont 34 指標 6小時前

Amazing he only had 1 all defensive team in his career

約什只進過一次最佳防守陣容，精人！

[–]76ersxjcs97sy 34 指標 4小時前

Maybe if he were a better shooter he would have made a few all defensive teams

如果他投射更好的話，也許就能多入選幾次了吧。

[–][WAS] John Walllivefreeordont 5 指標 2小時前

Makes perfect sense lol

竟無言以對。

[–]Pistonshurlcarl 14 指標 4小時前

Had the talent for HoF career... but was a stubborn bone head.

名人堂級別的天賦……但腦袋頑固又愚蠢……

[–]Celticsfdahood 394 指標 6小時前

Weird how LeBron is at the top right. Almost like he is really good at basketball or something.

詹姆斯一人高高在上真是詭異至極。看起來好像詹姆斯很擅長打籃球一樣。

[–]KingsJordanFarmarsEars 69 指標 6小時前

Yeah this chart made me question its validity as soon as I saw that. Super weird. Must be an anomaly or something.

是的，這也讓我感到很詭異。超級詭異。一定有什麼異常的情況。

[–][PHI] Joel Embiidrahbee33 21 指標 6小時前

You can"t always trust the numbers.

數據有時是會騙人的。

[–]76erscharliedarwinsfather 9 指標 5小時前

Empty numbers, mostly. Never really passed the eye test. Definitely never came through in the clutch.

大部分都是溢出的數據。完全沒有通過球迷的眼睛這一關。顯然關鍵時刻的詹姆斯還不過關。

[–]Skoltrain 6 指標 4小時前

Dude just doesn"t have that gene I guess

我猜是因為他沒有關鍵基因。

[–]Timberwolvessakattack1111 7 指標 6小時前

gonna need more charts + pics to verify this claim.

需要更多的數據表格和圖片來證明這點。

[–]Jazzwoonbarak 22 指標 6小時前

i got u another pic!

給你一張！

[–]Celticsfdahood 289 指標 6小時前

Kobe predicted that this graphic would be made, and tailored his game so that we would see his smug face dead center.

科比的出現證明了這張圖是偽造的！完全捏造了他的數據，這樣就能在圖片的正中間看到他那張帶著欠欠笑容的臉了！

[–]Cavaliersmochalion 53 指標 6小時前

I know today is going to be a good day because I saw a post with Stephon Marbury

我竟然在reddit的帖子里看到了馬布里，今天一定是個好日子。

[–]WarriorsGrabSomePineMeat 22 指標 6小時前

That"s CBA LEGEND, Stephon Marbury

那可是CBA傳奇馬布里啊。

[–]HornetsIZachAttack[??] 12 指標 4小時前

He is definitely a CBA Legend. And of course he was really good in the NBA too.

毫無疑問的CBA傳奇。他在NBA的時候就曾是非常出色的球員。

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