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23歲的濃眉現在場均30.5+11.3+2.8,真實命中率58.5%,什麼水平?

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23歲的濃眉現在場均30.5+11.3+2.8,真實命中率58.5%,什麼水平?

Anthony Davis is averaging 30.5pts/11.3reb/2.8blk on 58.5% TS at the age of 23 (self.nba)

23歲的安東尼-戴維斯現在場均30.5分+11.3籃板+2.8蓋帽,真實命中率58.5%


If you lower those thresholds to 30/11/2.8, AD and Bob McAdoo are the only players to ever put up those stats at age 25 or under and this dude is doing it at 23. His prime will be insane. Like top 5 ever insane

如果你往低了舍這三項數據也是30+11+2.8, NBA歷史上只有濃眉和鮑勃-麥卡杜(現在勇士的麥卡杜是鮑勃-麥卡杜的侄子)在25歲之前就打出這種數據,而濃眉是在23歲時就做到了! 濃眉的巔峰絕對會是逆天的水平,感覺會是歷史前5級別的逆天。





[–]CavaliersCavs4life2016 346 指標 7小時前

Praying this guy makes the playoffs during his prime.

為濃眉在巔峰期之間能打進季後賽而祈禱

[–]PelicansGood_NewsEveryone 140 指標 7小時前

Him missing the playoffs his entire prime is almost unimaginable. Any competent team with him on it will be in the playoffs.

濃眉在整個巔峰期間錯過季後賽幾乎是不可想像的。 任何有競爭力的球隊加上個濃眉都能打進季後賽。

[–]Bulletsthricethefun 44 指標 6小時前

Idk about that look at the West teams stacking talent. Minnesota, LA, Denver, even Phoenix getting lots of young talent

這可不好說,看看西部吧球隊天賦都溢出了,森林狼,湖人,掘金,甚至太陽都有很多年前的天賦球員。

[–]MavericksexicanMocha 43 指標 5小時前

Boogie is half way there

考新斯就正走在這條路上(巔峰期無緣季後賽)

[–][GSW] Jason RichardsonMitchShredder 25 指標 2小時前

AD is so much better than Boogie. In attitude and heart at the very least

濃眉比表妹強多了, 至少從態度到心氣兒上完勝。

[–][HOU] Yao MingOgnFaker 15 指標 1小時前

AD might have better attitude, but Boogie has a big heart for the game. In fact, that"s usually where most of his behavioral problems derive from, since he let"s his emotions take control of him.

濃眉可能態度要比表面更好。 但表妹對比賽也是很有心氣的。 實際上大多數他的行為問題都源於態度,因為他情緒一上頭就失控了。

[–]PelicansGood_NewsEveryone 70 指標 6小時前*

Talking about making the playoffs here. You only have to be a little over .500. And AD could always go east.

這裡在討論的是打進季後賽。 只要稍微超過50%勝率一點就可以進了。 而且濃眉也可以隨時去東部啊。

[–]CelticsIfuckinglovebball 23 指標 5小時前

He could really go anywhere. If you transplanted him onto literally any team other than the Pelicans, they make the playoffs

濃眉可以去任何地方。 如果你把他植入到任何鵜鶘以外的球隊里,他們都可以打進季後賽。

[–]LakersYouKnowMyName925 10 指標 5小時前

Not just playoffs. I wanna see him with a championship caliber team around him like we"ve seen with Lebron, Steph, and KD. He"s too damn good of a player to be exiting in the first and second round

不僅僅是季後賽,我想看到濃眉在一支圍繞他建隊的冠軍級別球隊里, 就像我們看到勒布朗,庫里和阿杜的情形一樣。濃眉這麼強的球員只局限於一輪或者二輪游的球隊就太可惜了。

[–]Jones3787 12 指標 4小時前

You"ll regret this when he signs with the Warriors in a few years

等幾年後濃眉跟勇士簽約時,你會後悔你說的這些話的。


[–]SpursPulciNeller 75 指標 7小時前

basically peak David Robinson (with lesser defense though)

這基本上就是巔峰大衛-羅賓遜的水平了(不過防守是稍微弱化版的那種)

[–][MIN] Al Jeffersoncantankerousbliss 61 指標 6小時前

better offense (overall, Robinson takes cake in post)

進攻要更強。 (總體來說, 羅賓遜在低位上就是砍瓜切菜)

[–]bodhi407 28 指標 6小時前

You guys old school. I never seen David Robinson play live

樓上真是老派球迷啊,我從來沒有看過上將現場的比賽。

[–][MIN] Al Jeffersoncantankerousbliss 69 指標 6小時前

Was fucking amazing. As in Dwight Howard is a poor mans David Robinson. He lead the league in scoring (admittedly when MJ was playing baseball) and averaged 25.6/11.8/3.1/1.7/3.6 over his first 7 years.

上將尼瑪是吊炸天級別的。 感受一下,霍華德就是窮人版大衛-羅賓遜。上將當過聯盟得分王(雖然沒法否認的是喬丹當時是在打棒球), 生涯前7年上將場均25.6分+11.8籃板+3.1助攻+1.7搶斷+3.6蓋帽的水平。




[–]bodhi407 12 指標 5小時前

Since you are a T-Wolves fan. Do you like what you see in Towns. Can he be as good as David Robinson? I think Towns is great offensively. But he plays soft on both ends. Defensively he a step slow, and I think he has long way to go on defense

既然樓上你是森林狼球迷, 那你對唐斯的上限怎麼看? 他能夠達到上將的水平嗎?我認為唐斯進攻端非常強, 但他在攻防兩端打得都太軟了, 防守上他總是慢一步, 我認為他在防守端要走的路還很長。

[–][MIN] Al Jeffersoncantankerousbliss 39 指標 5小時前

I think we massively underrate some of the "older players" like it sounds crazy that Hakeem and Robinson are old school now, but really I think they are some of the best ever. I just don"t think I can predict/see a Top 10 or 20 player all time in KAT yet. Doesn"t mean its impossible, but I think that is unlikely.

狼蜜:我認為我們都嚴重低估了一些「老派球員」的實力, 聽上去很瘋狂,像大夢和上將這樣的球員現在都算老派球員了。但是講真,他們真的是歷史上最牛逼的一些球員。 我覺得我現在還沒法預測唐斯能成為歷史前10或者前20的球員。 這不代表完全沒可能,但是我覺得可能性不大。

[–]KnicksQuinnett 14 指標 4小時前

Predicting anyone to be a top 10 player when they"re 22 is impossible unless they"re Lebron James. It"s kind of silly because there"s just so many things that can happen that turn someone from "just" an All Star or Hall of Famer into an all time great.

在球員22歲時就預測他能成為歷史前10球員,這對任何球員來說都是不可能的, 除非他是勒布朗詹姆斯。這種預測很蠢,因為存在太多變數了,這都可能讓一個球員從「僅僅」是全明星級或者名人堂級,蛻變成歷史級別的球員。


[–]CavaliersGeordi14er 53 指標 5小時前

How the fuck is he still only 23? Feel like he"s been in the league for 6 years.

濃眉尼瑪怎麼才23歲? 我感覺他都像是在聯盟打了6年一樣了。

[–]USAAlfred_978 49 指標 4小時前

It"s his fifth, he was drafted in 2012.

這是他第5個賽季, 濃眉是2012年的新秀。

[–]LakersOriAr 11 指標 4小時前

Damn you are right.

He was a college player in the Olympics!

卧槽你說的沒錯。 濃眉打奧運時還是大學球員!

[–]SunsBigCountryBumgarner 2 指標 1小時前

This is why I think it"s crazy people thought Towns is better.

Towns has HOF talent, but Davis has had the same talent since his first day in the league! It"s the same shit that happened to AD: everyone overhyped him into being a #2 player in the league, so they were disappointed with his still insane numbers.

這就是為什麼我認為那些說唐斯更強的人都瘋了。

唐斯具備名人堂級的天賦,但濃眉從進入聯盟第一天起就有這種天賦了!

就是因為所有人一開始就把濃眉過早吹成了聯盟第2人, 所有現在他打出逆天數據還有人對他感到失望!

[–]Spursztejas 29 指標 4小時前*

Okay the stats are great but the "he"s so young still he"s only 23!" thing needs to stop.

Here"s what some other players put up when they were "only" 23:

And these are all 82 game numbers.

好吧,這數據是很牛逼,但是別再來這套「他才23歲!」的說辭了。

以下是其他球員在「只有」23歲時打出過的數據,而且這些可都是82場比賽的場均數據哦:

Duncan: 21.5pts/11.5reb/2.9ast/.8stl/2.1blk on .555 TS% (and had already won FMVP)

鄧肯:21.5分11.5板2.9助攻0.8搶斷2.1蓋帽,真實命中率55.5% (當時他已經拿過FMVP了)

KG: 22.9pts/11.8reb/5.0ast/1.5stl/1.6blk on .545 TS%

KG:22.9分11.8板5.0助攻1.5搶斷1.6蓋帽,真實命中率54.5%

Kobe (at 22): 28.5pts/5.9reb/5.0ast/1.7stl/.6blk on .552 TS%

科比(22歲):28.5分5.9板5.0助攻1.7搶斷0.6蓋帽 真實命中率55.2%

Tmac: 32.1pts/6.5reb/5.5ast/1.7stl/.8blk on .564 TS%.

麥蒂:32.1分6.5板5.5助攻1.7搶斷0.8蓋帽 真實命中率56.4%

LeBron: 30pts/7.9reb/7.2ast/1.8stl/1.1blk on .568 TS%

勒布朗:30分7.9板7.2助攻1.8搶斷1.1蓋帽 真實命中率56.8%

Wade: 24.1pts/5.2reb/6.8ast/1.6stl/1.1blk on .561 TS%

韋德:24.1分5.2板6.8助攻1.6搶斷1.1蓋帽 真實命中率56.1%

CP3: 22.8pts/5.5reb/11ast/2.8stl on .599 TS%

保羅:22.8分5.5板11助攻2.8搶斷 真實命中率59.9%

Dwight: 20.6pts/13.8reb/1.6ast/1.0stl/2.8blk on .600 TS%

霍華德:20.6分13.8板1.6助攻1.0搶斷2.8蓋帽 真實命中率60.0%

KD: 28pts/8rebs/3.5ast/1.3stl/1.2blk on .610 TS% (and won his 3rd straight scoring title)

阿杜:28分8板3.5助攻1.3搶斷1.2蓋帽,真實命中率61.0% (當時已經是連續3屆得分王了)

So... don"t act like there"s never been someone this good this young, because it"s pretty much happened 9 times (now 10 I guess) since MJ. And, ironically, the best 2 seasons here besides LeBron (Tmac and CP3) are the 2 players on this list to have never made the Finals (well Tmac technically did but not really).

You never know, this could be AD"s peak right now. What he is though is a fantastic basketball player regardless of how old he is. Age isn"t on the stat sheet.

I mean Jesus, y"all realize that Giannis is putting up 22.3pts/8.9reb/5.9ast/2.0stl/2.0blk on .595 TS% right now and he"s only 22? I think you could argue AD"s not even having a better season than he is.

所以。。別總表現得好像沒人在年輕時就有過這麼強的表現。 因為從喬丹之後這都有過9次了(現在可以說10次了),而且諷刺的是,除了勒布朗之外的最強2個賽季表現里,有2人從沒打進過總決賽:保羅和麥迪(嚴格意義來說,麥迪在馬刺那次不算)。

你永遠不知道以後會怎樣, 現在沒準就是濃眉的最巔峰了呢。 他現在就是吊炸天級別的球員,這跟他的年齡沒關係。 年齡都是紙面上的東西。

我的意思是,天吶你沒看到字母哥目前就有場均22.3分8.9板5.9助攻2.0搶斷2.0蓋帽,真實命中率59.5%的數據么,而字母哥現在才22歲? 我認為你甚至都可以有的一辯濃眉這賽季表現沒比字母哥強。


[–]Celticsunitythrufaith 5 指標 3小時前

I"m afraid his career will play out similar to KG"s did before the Boston deal

恐怕濃眉的生涯會類似KG去波士頓那筆交易之前的走勢了。

[–]youngtrece13 9 指標 7小時前

Hes the kinda guy i feel like deserves a ring, at least one even if its on a kevin garnett savior type trade.

濃眉是那種我感覺配得上冠軍戒指的球員, 至少得是一冠,就算是通過加內特這樣救世主類型的交易也行。

[–]CavaliersSakiz105 52 指標 6小時前*

Oneal was putting 29.3/13.2/2.4/0.9/2.9 as a 21yo sophomore on 0.599FG 0.605TS.If AD gets even close to Oneal,i would still be happy

奧尼爾在21歲二年級時場均29.3+13.2+2.4+0.9+2.9, 命中率59.9%,真實命中率60.5%。 如果濃眉能接近奧尼爾,我仍然會很開心的。

[–]TimberwolvesClcsed 14 指標 2小時前

Age 20: Shaq led his team to +18 wins (41 from 23 the previous season). 23/14/2 and 3.5 blocks.

Age 21: A godamn 28.5 PER. At the time there were only 6 players in history who did this: Jordan, Malone, Barkley, Robinson, Kareem, Wilt. 29/13/2 and 2.9 blocks

Age 22: 57 wins. Took his team to the NBA Finals beating the motherfucking MICHAEL JORDAN Bulls. 29/11/3 and 2.4 blocks

Age 23: 60 wins. Took his team to the ECF but this time lost to the Michael Jordan Bulls. 27/11/3 and 2.1 blocks.

感受下沙克前4年的神跡表現,數據都是賽季場均數據:

20歲的沙克, 帶領球隊比前一年多贏18場。 (之前23勝,新秀沙克帶隊怒升41勝),場均23+14+2,還有3.5蓋帽。

21歲的沙克, 卧槽尼瑪per值28.5. 在當時歷史上只有6名球員做到過這點:喬丹,馬龍,巴克利,羅賓遜,賈巴爾,張伯倫。 場均29+13+2,2.9蓋帽。

22歲的沙克:57勝, 帶隊殺進NBA總決賽,尼瑪在季後賽干翻了邁克爾喬丹的公牛。 場均27+11+3,2.4蓋帽。

23歲的沙克:60勝。帶隊殺進東決,但是這次輸給了邁克爾喬丹的公牛。 場均27+11+3,2.1蓋帽。




[–]Knicksunderhunter 5 指標 2小時前

I wonder what his #"s would be with a Penny or a Kobe..

我想知道濃眉要是和便士或者科比一起打球能砍出什麼樣的數據。


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