美球迷：輕吹！請客觀看待大帝表現，君臨天下還需時間與健康！

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美球迷：輕吹！請客觀看待大帝表現，君臨天下還需時間與健康！

Embiid is a fantastic talent, but let s slow down a bit.

恩比德是一名極具天賦的球員，但是咱是不是吹得太過了？

Now before you eat me alive, hear me out. I m not saying we should stop talking about him completely because he really is an amazing young talent and has the potential to be one of the best. However, I ve been hearing things like "Embiid is a top 5 player if healthy" or "Embiid will be the NBA s best player after LeBron if healthy" on many threads. And they get upvoted like crazy. Don t get me wrong, I see the potential just like everybody else, but that s just a crazy claim for such a small sample size.

在你們準備把我活生生吃掉之前，請聽我把話先說完。我的意思不是說我們應該完全不討論恩比德了，因為他確實天賦很好啊，也很年輕，也有潛力成為歷史級別名宿。但是，我也時常看到一些JR說什麼「保持健康的大帝會是聯盟前五巨星」或者是「保持健康的大帝會是繼詹姆斯之後聯盟里最偉大的球星」，而且這些評論會被瘋狂地點亮。千萬別曲解我的意思，我就像其餘人一樣都看到了大帝的潛力，但是通過如此小的樣本而說出這樣的評論其實是挺瘋狂的。

I say this because to be a top 5 player or the best player in the league, you have to sustain it. And I don t mean just health. What s incredible with guys like LeBron is not that they are incredibly talented, but that nearly every night they are the best player on the court. EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. Now, I m not saying Embiid can t be that guy, but there s a reason there is a big difference between the top 20 guys and the top 5 guys.

我這麼說是因為，要想成為聯盟前五巨星，你必須要有保持穩定的表現。我並不僅僅是指保持健康。那些令人感到不可思議的球員，比如說詹姆斯，並不是因為他們有著令人瞪目結舌的天賦，而是因為幾乎每一天晚上的比賽，他們都表現得像他們就是球場上最好的那名球員。注意了，我說的是，每一場比賽！現在我不是在說恩比德不會成為這種球員，但聯盟前二十球星不等同於聯盟前五巨星，它們之間還是有很大區別的。

For example, Paul George is a good case to look at. If you remember the 2013-2014 season, Paul George was pretty much the undisputed MVP. He looked incredible and, quite frankly, unstoppable at the time. And this was for a pretty long stretch. People were talking about him being a top 5 player and one of the next great players in the league. And for good reason. However, he and the team took a major downturn the second half of the season and he returned to his up and down self. And he continues to be that player, he has streaks where he plays at such a high level he could be argued to be one of the very best players in the league. Then he follows that up with pretty mediocre play and leaves you scratching your head.

舉例來說吧，保羅-喬治就是個很好的例子。如果你還記得2013-2014賽季，喬治幾乎就是無可爭議的MVP。他的表現看起來令人感覺難以置信，不吹不黑，那時沒人阻止得了他，而且他的表現還算是持續了很長的一段時間。人們把他當成聯盟前五巨星、下一位NBA聯盟最偉大的球員之一一樣來討論他，而且出發點也是好的。然而，他和步行者在下半個賽季里遭遇很大的下滑，他的狀態也回到他曾經起伏不定時那樣。然後他還是他，狀態起伏不定。當他表現出色的時候，球隊連勝，他也能進入到聯盟最佳球員的討論中，當他狀態下滑打得就像一個普通球員一樣，人們就撓著頭鬱悶說他到底怎麼了。

I bring this up because we have only seen Embiid play a handful of games. He has looked incredible and I truly think he can be one of the true stars in this league, but I first need to see him put together a full season where he plays at an extremely high-level night in and night out. And that s including health and play. Because as I said, pretty much anybody in the top 20 of the NBA can put together an impressive string of 20-30 games, but the true greats can carry it on for an entire season and into the playoffs.

我舉喬治的例子是因為我們僅僅看過恩比德寥寥無幾的比賽。他看起來令人難以置信而且我也真心相信他能成為聯盟中真正的球星之一，但是我還是得先看到他完完整整打完一個賽季，同時每晚都能保持一個極高的水平。極高的水平包括了他的健康狀態和他的表現。因為就好像我說的那樣，幾乎每一個聯盟前二十的球星都可以打出一連串20到30場令人印象深刻的比賽，但是只有那些真正偉大的巨星才能保持整個賽季和季後賽都會有絕佳的表現。

I m a huge fan of Embiid and hope he can stay healthy and become one of the greats, but let s sit back watch what actually happens first.

我絕對是大帝的死忠粉，我也希望他能一直保持健康然後成為最偉大的球員之一，但是讓我們先別著急，好好坐下來看看接下來到底會發生什麼。

[–]NuggetsBallMop 918 points 17 hours ago

r/nba is just insanely biased in terms of recency

的確，Reddit的近期偏差太嚴重了。[譯註1]

[譯註1]人們傾向於以自己記憶中最近的歷史經驗和趨勢判斷未來，這在許多情況下也是被證明正確的。但如果只看現象不理解問題本質，情況出現轉折時，有可能出現完全錯誤的判斷而無法自拔。

[–][SAS] Marco BelinelliChiliConChaos 599 points 17 hours ago

Dunno what you』re talking about KUZMA MVP 2017-FOREVER

聽不懂你在說什麼！庫茲馬MVP MVP MVP MVP到永遠！！

[–]Lakers BandwagonDongsquad420BlazeIt 160 points 16 hours ago

Looks right to me.

湖人球迷：老鐵沒毛病。

[–]NuggetsKyanon34 72 points 12 hours ago

Duncan wasn t even that good in retrospect! I mean what did he do that Bobby Portis can t?

現在想想，鄧肯一點兒也不算強啊！他能做的，博比-波蒂斯都能做到啊。

[–][MIA] Harold Minerparadoxofchoice 103 points 16 hours ago

Tbf, the majority of r/NBA have been watching for less than a decade so recency is all they have.

直話直說，濕乎乎上大部分人都只看過少於十個賽季的比賽，所以「最近的表現」是他們所有能討論的東西啦。

[–][BOS] Marcus Smartriders994 84 points 15 hours ago

More like 2 seasons

更像少於兩個賽季吧。

[–]SunsBigCountryBumgarner 46 points 15 hours ago

It s hard to treat things with historical context when they ve only ever seen LeBron and the Warriors in the finals

他們來說只看過詹姆斯和勇士隊打總決賽，你卻讓他們討論NBA歷史背景，這不故意吊難他們嗎。

[–]Clippersss2gohanisgoat 25 points 13 hours ago

I just realized how sad that kind of is.

我才意識到這有多麼令人心寒。

[–]LakersComeoncuh 17 points 12 hours ago

It makes me depressed when i hear some people never saw the 2010 finals on here

湖人球迷：當我聽到別人說他們從來沒看過2010年總決賽的時候，我鬱悶極了。

[–]Celtics BandwagonWayne_Spooney 40 points 11 hours ago

It makes me depressed that I saw the 2010 finals.

凱爾特人球迷：更鬱悶的知道是什麼嗎？是我看了那年的總決賽。

[–][CHI] Lawrence FunderburkeSim888 386 points 17 hours ago

slow down a bit.

Fuck that...Full speed ahead!

你讓我們輕點吹？

滾邊玩去！馬力開足使勁吹！

[–]76ersjawntothefuture 38 points 14 hours ago

thank you. you are correct

76人球迷：謝謝你老哥，說得太對了。

[–][PHI] Joel EmbiidVenomyze 207 points 17 hours ago

It ll slow down. Some people got carried away after his showing last night after not seeing him play for so long

吹捧會逐漸降溫的。有些人只不過在那麼久沒看到恩比德打球之後看到他昨晚的表現而有些飄飄然了。

[–][MIN] Tyus Jonespollinium 97 points 17 hours ago

Luckily it ll pick right back up tomorrow after playing the Heat

幸運的是，打完熱火之後，吹大帝的帖子又要滿天飛啦！

[–]HeatDolfanz019 91 points 14 hours ago

Last time Whiteside & Embiid went up against each other:

Whiteside - 32/13/2 blocks on 68% shooting (32 minutes)

Embiid - 22/5/3 blocks on 54% shooting (23 minutes)

Should be exciting to watch

熱火球迷：上一次懷特塞德和恩比德對陣：

懷特塞德 – 32分13板2蓋帽，投籃命中率68%（上場32分鐘）

恩比德 – 22分5板3蓋帽，投籃命中率54%（上場23分鐘）

嗯，祝你美夢成真。

[–]76ersMattV413 155 points 16 hours ago

reads title

No.

reads rest of post

Ughh fine.

But on a serious note, when he s on the floor sixers are 15x better compared to when he s off. Look at his on/off stats, he makes the defense actually good, the offense is better, everything is better every time he s on the court. He made the fucking sixers look like a playoff team before his injury last year.

看到這個標題的反應：

我不要！

讀完了剩下的內容：

額好吧。

但說真的，大帝在場上的時候76人表現得比他下場時好15倍。看看他上場時和不在場時76人的數據吧，他讓他們的防守變得非常好，進攻變得更好，他上場之後所有東西都變好了。在他去年受傷之前，他讓他娘的76人看起來就像一支季後賽球隊。

[–]SpursATXBeermaker 45 points 16 hours ago

But on a serious note, when he s on the floor sixers are 15x better compared to when he s off.

Yeah, but his supporting cast was such ass that this would probably be true for many of the top players in the league. Not to mention that Embiid played against very few top defenses/defenders last year and when he did his stats were generally not nearly as other-worldly.

「但說真的，大帝在場上的時候76人表現得比他下場時好15倍。」

樓上說的不錯，但你要考慮到恩比德隊友是多麼垃圾。所以即使把大帝換成其它聯盟頂級球員，這句話依舊成立。而且別忘了大帝去年也很少跟頂級防守球隊或者防守球員打過，當他遇到頂級防守的時候，他的數據也不像他超神時那樣好。

[–]76ersTheProcess12 25 points 15 hours ago

Yes that s true, but you can even look at last night as an example. We were down by 10 before Embiid came back out and then went on a 27-1 run. Is it because its the Nets? Probably, but I think as we move deep into the season the on/off stats will still favor when he is on the floor

我贊同，但是你可以把昨晚當成例子。在大帝重新上場之前我們落後10分，他一回來76人就打了一波27-1的進攻高潮。難道是因為對手是籃網嗎？也許吧，但我覺得當賽季深入之後，76人的數據肯定在他上場時會更好，而不是他坐板凳的時候。

[–]SpursATXBeermaker 12 points 15 hours ago

but I think as we move deep into the season the on/off stats will still favor when he is on the floor

Well, yeah. But like I said, I think that would be true of lots of players in the league.

To be clear, I think Embiid is amazing. I just think that people need to pump the brakes a bit before declaring him the second coming. I get that Sixers fans will find it difficult not to get insanely excited about the guy, but give it time. We ll see how it all plays out eventually.

「但我覺得當賽季深入之後，76人的數據肯定在他上場時會更好，而不是他坐板凳的時候。」

我同意你的說的。但是我剛說了，即使換成其它聯盟頂級球員，這句話還是會成立。

說明一點，我認為恩比德非常驚艷。我只是認為在人們說大帝盛世降臨之前還是應該緩一緩。我理解對76人球迷來說讓他們別太過激動是非常困難的，但是還是緩一緩，給過程一點時間。我們最終會看到結果是怎麼樣的。

[–]PistonsCrispyBalooga 68 points 16 hours ago

It s just remarkable how good he is for the amount of game experience he has. You just don t see that. That s an indicator for me of somebody who is in the all-time upper echelon of basketball talent.

對於他僅有的籃球比賽經驗來說，打得這麼好還是很了不起的。球場經驗這種東西你看不出來的。這對我來說指明了他的籃球天賦在歷史來看都屬於上層梯隊的。

[–]76erslardbiscuits 32 points 14 hours ago

I hate the pump the brakes bullshit.

I ll be the first one to admit I m a little concerned with Ben and Fultz.

But Embiid? This dude has played like 50 organized games of basketball in his life. He is absolutely transcendent if he s healthy. This year, if he plays over 60 games, he s not only ALREADY the best big in the league, but if he continues to be as dominant defensively as he has, then he s a top five overall player in the league.

I have no qualms saying that. He s that fucking good. There s no one who can defend him in the league.

76人球迷：我不喜歡那套「緩一緩」的屁話。

就本-西蒙斯和富爾茨而言，我第一個站出來承認我對他們有點擔心的。

但是大帝？這傢伙這一輩子也就才打了大概50場正規的籃球賽。當他保持健康的時候，他的天賦絕對是超凡脫俗的。今年，如果他能打超過60場比賽，那他將不會僅僅是聯盟已現有的最牛逼的大個子，而且他繼續在防守端統治一切的話，那他絕對就是一個聯盟前五的球員。

說這話時我良心一點也不會痛。他真TMD的強，聯盟里沒有人能防得住他。

[–]Warriorshoffmanmclaunsky 32 points 14 hours ago*

The comparison with PG is also a bit silly imo. PG wasn t a top 3 pick, PG has a completely different skillset and way of taking over a game, PG isn t the physical specimen that Embiid is (although PG is certainly big and athletic). PG also has a way different personality and relationship with his teammates.

And Embiid has the kind of talent you know isn t going to be up and down like Paul George. Embiid is a freaking 7 2, 280 lb monster with smooth as hell post and face up moves. Plus he can shoot and knock down FTs.

I don t know if I d agree he s already a top 5 talent when healthy though.

在我看來拿喬治的例子比較顯得有點愚蠢，首先PG不是前三順位，而且PG有著跟恩比德完全不同的技巧去統治比賽，PG也沒有恩比德那副上天賜予的身板（雖然PG絕對身材高大且充滿運動能力）。PG也有著截然不同的個性，跟隊友的關係也和恩比德不一樣。

同樣你也清楚恩比德的天賦不會像PG那樣起伏不定。恩比德是一個身高2米20，體重127公斤的怪物，同時有著絲滑般的背身和面框技術。而且他還能投中籃和罰球。

但我不確定健康的恩比德會不會擠進聯盟前五。

[–]76ersLorax1515 47 points 17 hours ago

For what it s worth, it s a small minority that think that. Most people will happily point out that he s only played 31 games and is an injury risk. Most positive Embiid statements are qualified by health, and if not, someone will always point that out.

無論如何，只是一小部分人同意這個觀點。大部分人還是會很樂意指出恩比德僅僅打了31場比賽而且有著傷病隱患的事實。大部分關於恩比德的正面評價都是在他健康的前提下符合的，如果評價不符合的話，總會有人指出來的。

[–]RocketschefnoguardD 38 points 17 hours ago

It is not a small minority. Seriously? The Embiid hype on this subreddit is hugely popular

並不是只有一小部分人啊。老哥你認真的嗎？在濕乎乎上瘋狂吹恩比德可是很受歡迎的。

[–]76ersLorax1515 23 points 16 hours ago

Specifically referring to a small minority prematurely saying he ll be in the top 5 or best in the east after Lebron. Not the general Embiid hype.

噢，我只是在特指那一小部分過早評價恩比德會統治聯盟，成為前五巨星或者詹姆斯之後東部最強，而不是那種一般的恩比德吹。

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