樂福將任首發中鋒，TT替補出場，這是要和勇士對轟還是調試陣容？

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樂福將任首發中鋒，TT替補出場，這是要和勇士對轟還是調試陣容？

Kevin Love may start at center, relegating Tristan Thompson to bench

凱文-樂福或許會出任首發中鋒，把特里斯坦-湯普森擠到板凳

[–][TOR] DeMar DeRozanDeKobe-DeBryant 344 指標 12小時前

It really seems like Cavs are just trying to outscore the Warriors now.

Super bold plan.

看來騎士是要試圖跟勇士比誰得分多了。

真是個大膽的計劃。

[–]HowToBeaGoodLeader 121 指標 9小時前

You would think they d learn after this finals that you can t ignore team defense and then expect to outpace the Warriors. Instead, they re doubling down on scorers...

我本來以為騎士經過這次總決之後明白了這個道理，就是你不能忽視團隊防守而去指望靠提速來超過勇士。相反，他們在得分手身上下了雙倍賭注…

[–][CLE] LeBron Jameswill1816 103 指標 8小時前

Well, the only game they won was when they outscored them with ridiculous heaps of 3s

騎士球迷：不過，騎士唯一贏的一場就是靠著開掛般的三分跟勇士拼進攻贏下的。

[–]Supahflii 51 指標 7小時前

That was historic; and even then, there were times the Warriors were within striking distance. The game the Cavs played that night would probably beat any team, ever. It was raining fire.

那是歷史級的三分表演;就算投的那麼好，勇士還是有很多次追到了近在咫尺的距離。那晚騎士的表現或許能贏下任何隊伍。騎士的三分箭是地獄的火焰！

[–]HowToBeaGoodLeader 35 指標 7小時前

Which is not something you can replicate consistently over 4 games (especially the garbage reffing that allowed 20 fts in the first quarter alone but didn t call the same fouls on GSW, especially the whole Draymond technical nonsense). As you saw, Game 5 went back to normal.

That s why it doesn t make sense to try and outpace GSW when your team defense is nowhere near elite. Add in that outside of Jae Crowder, the pieces that the Cavs added aren t really stoppers or at the very least known for their defense.

這樣的三分表現你是不可能持續複製四場的（特別是裁判的拙劣表演讓第一節就出現了20次罰球，但是同樣犯在勇士身上的規卻沒有吹罰，尤其是追夢格林的技犯）。如你所見，G5騎士的表現就回歸正常了。

這就是為什麼當你的團隊防守跟精英級別差的十萬八千里的時候，試圖打快跟勇士拼進攻是行不通的。而且，除了傑-克勞德之外，騎士補充的球員沒有防守大閘，連以防守著稱的都沒有。

[–]the1Smokeybear 1913 指標 15小時前

fuck defense

防守什麼的見鬼去吧！

[–]NuggetsWeirdRedBeard 1600 指標 15小時前*

Congratulations, you are now a head coach for the Denver Nuggets.

掘金球迷：恭喜你，你現在是丹佛掘金隊的主教練了！

[–]Trail Blazersisopropylone 236 指標 13小時前

Jokic looked way faster than I ve ever seen him yesterday though

約基奇昨天打勇士的時候確實看上去比之前快多了。

[–]Timberwolvesmarkyellowstone 319 指標 13小時前

did you see him on defense? he was getting carved tf up. zaza got like 5 straight rebounds on him at one point. he is slow as hell lol.

你看他防守端的表現了沒？他被生吞活剝了。帕楚里亞有一次在他頭上連搶了大概五個籃板。約基奇簡直不能更慢了。

[–][DEN] Nikola JokicDontTouchMyRaf 172 指標 15小時前

Cavs were like +46 in the playoffs with love at center

季後賽中樂福打中鋒的時候騎士好像贏了46分。

[–]Netsaydee123 169 指標 15小時前*

It was only 44 minutes over 18 games. 2.4 mpg, probably against specific opponent lineups.

A team s best lineup (usually its starters) play like 15-20 minutes per game together over the course of an 82-game season.

這是總共44分鐘分散到18場球的數據。場均2.4分鐘，可能是為了針對對手特殊的布陣。

在82場比賽組成的賽季中，一支球隊的最佳陣容（通常是其首發陣容）每場大概打15-20分鐘。

[–][SAS] Kawhi LeonardCrustyMuffinn 45 指標 15小時前

Is tt that much better of a defender than love?

湯普森的防守比樂福好很多嗎？

[–]Wizards Bandwagoncaveman57 207 指標 15小時前

tt, to me, is one of the most overhyped defenders in the league so probably not that much better.

在我看來，湯普森是聯盟中最被過分吹噓的防守者，所以可能他的防守比樂福也好不到哪去。

[–]CavaliersCLErox 157 指標 14小時前

Wow I completely disagree. He』s not a great rim protector but he』s elite for his position at switching the pick and roll and picking up guards on the perimeter. Sure he gets cooked occasionally in these situations but he keeps smaller guards in front of him better than most big men.

騎士球迷：哇哦，你這麼說我就不同意了。湯普森不是個好的護筐手，但是他的擋拆換防和對外線後衛的防守在同位置是精英級別的。當然在上述情況中他偶爾會被打爆，但是在時刻保持在小後衛身前這一項上他比大多數大個子做的都好。

[–][OKC] Daequan CookJoshatthecarwash 443 指標 15小時前*

Why not trade thompson for melo ?

Edit: Not that im complaining.

雷霆球迷：既然這樣？當初為什麼不拿湯普森換甜瓜呢？

編輯下：我倒並不是在抱怨。

[–]Vancouver GrizzliesVinceMeatPie 94 指標 18小時前

I rather have Tristan come off the bench. Start Edy Tavares and Kevin Love at the C and PF positions. Nice three man big rotation.

灰熊球迷：我寧願讓塔瓦雷斯首發，TT打替補。這樣的話，三個大個子的輪換就成形了，還挺不錯的。

[–][OKC] Daequan CookJoshatthecarwash 173 指標 13小時前

Idk Melo at the 4 and Love at the 5 could be deadly spacing. If you re gonna ditch defense anyway

雷霆球迷：甜瓜打4樂福打5可以拉開廣闊的空間。反正騎士現在這架勢也是放棄防守了。

[–]BullsDadAttitude 90 指標 12小時前

IT, JR, Lebron, Melo, Love is ridiculous spacing. Bron s gravity generates spacing regardless and the other four are elite shooters.

小托馬斯，JR，勒布朗，甜瓜，樂福的陣容空間拉的不要太開。詹有引力本來就能製造空位，其他四個人還都是精英射手。

[–]Cavaliersrubber_bastard 96 指標 11小時前

The hell? TT has been playing with our core for three straight final runs now, almost is never injured, is consistently a great offense rebounder and a serviceable offensive pick and roll player, and a above average defenseive pick and roll big. That s like 300+ games of NBA experience with our team, system, high level competitive basketball.

Edy Tavares has like no experience with our team or the NBA. Why in the world would an unproven random 14th man start over TT.

騎士球迷：什麼鬼？湯普森已經和我們的核心陣容一起打了三次總決賽了，幾乎從不受傷，一直是個很棒的前場籃板手和一個湊合的擋拆進攻球員，還是個水準之上的防守擋拆的大個子。

TT在我騎的體系下打了300多場高級別的比賽，跟隊友都磨合了很長時間了。

埃迪-塔瓦雷斯不管是跟我騎也好，還是在NBA也罷，他都幾乎沒有任何經驗。為什麼一個球隊第14人要代替湯普森首發？

[–]rzpieces 60 指標 11小時前

You want a guy a few months removed from the d league to start over one of the best offensive rebounders in the NBA?

那位灰熊球迷，你想讓一個幾個月之前還在發展聯盟的球員代替NBA最佳前場籃板手首發？

[–]76erssportsinaround 250 指標 14小時前

Eh...

I feel like Wade being promised a starting spot kind of messes with things to be honest.

實話講，我覺得韋德被承諾首發位置這檔子事有點使情況變得更複雜了。

I d think until IT comes back, Rose / JR Smith / LeBron / Love / TT would make the most sense and have Crowder and Wade come off the bench. The biggest problem for the Cavs has been their stagnant offense when leBron sits.

我覺得在小托馬斯回來前，羅斯、JR、勒布朗、樂福、湯普森首發最合理，克勞德、韋德替補。騎士最大的問題一直都是勒布朗下場後停滯的進攻。

Crowder would provide good defense off the bench and could compensate for Wade s underwhelming 3pt shooting. Wade could help with playmaking and preventing a stagnant offense on the 2nd unit and would still see time with LeBron. Wade starting next to Rose messes with spacing a lot and JR is probably the better defender at this stage.

克勞德能為替補提供不錯的防守，還能彌補韋德差勁的三分。韋德能幫助組織進攻，防止第二節進攻停滯，還能跟勒布朗一起上場。韋德和羅斯一起首發拉不開空間，而且JR現在或許是比韋德更好的防守者了。

[–][DET] Chauncey Billupsharbaughkhakis2017 51 指標 14小時前

Yea that s what I would do if I were the cavs. Maybe to close games in the playoffs they can go IT wade Lebron crowder and love but to start I think they should play both love and Thompson.

如果我是騎士隊的話我就會這麼做。或許季後賽收比賽的時候可以小托馬斯、韋德、勒布朗、克勞德、樂福一起上，但是首發還是樂福和湯普森都要。

[–]RaptorsWhiteVegas 107 指標 15小時前

Why change what isn t broken

這套陣容用著挺好，為什麼要變陣呢？

[–][POR] Damian Lillardirelli 46 指標 14小時前

It is broken. Against the warriors at least

這套陣容並不好用。至少對勇士是這樣。

[–]NBAbryankalbrosky[S] 179 指標 15小時前

Because without Kyrie on the squad, the team needs as many three-point opportunities as possible.

因為歐文走了之後，球隊需要儘可能多的三分機會。

[–]RaptorsWhiteVegas 47 指標 15小時前

When healthy they should start Thomas - JR - Bron - Love - TT and bring Wade/Crowder as 6th and 7th man. Would be tough team to beat.

全員健康時他們應該首發小托馬斯、JR、勒布朗、樂福、湯普森，韋德和克勞德作為第67人。這會是很難擊敗的陣容。

[–]Netstotsnotbiased 78 指標 15小時前

But Thomas isn』t healthy, and Wade』s been promised a starting spot. Love is basically the best shooter in a Rose-Wade-LBJ-Love-TT lineup, so putting Love at Center let』s you add another shooter and defensive wing in Crowder.

但是小托馬斯有傷，韋德也被承諾了首發位置。樂福在羅斯-韋德-勒布朗-樂福-湯普森的陣容里是最好的射手了，所以把樂福放在中鋒位置的話，騎士就能插入一個能防守能三分的側翼-克勞德。

[–]Ohgrave1 33 指標 14小時前

Why does every one talk as if once you ve chosen a line up. You re stuck with it. Playoffs are at least 16 games against 4 different teams. No two series should have the same game plan. That s lazy coaching.

為什麼每個人討論時都一幅「一旦你選擇了一套陣容就必須一條路走到黑」的樣子？季後賽是至少面對4支球隊打16場球。沒有哪兩輪系列賽計劃是一樣的。真要一樣的話，那教練就是無能。

[–][BOS] Paul Piercejallain 88 指標 13小時前

Playoffs are at least 16 games against 4 different teams.

Chris Paul: "WHAT?!?"

季後賽是至少面對4支球隊打16場球。

克里斯-保羅：「什麼？！？」

[–]NBADankDunker15 17 指標 11小時前

DeMarcus Cousins:"Oh,there is a postseason!?"

德馬庫斯-考辛斯：「什麼，還有季後賽這回事！？」

[–]WarriorsParenegade 92 指標 15小時前

#1 rated team defensively in 2K.

騎士可是2K防守排名第一的隊伍。

[–][GSW] Stephen CurrySwaggersaurusWrecks 29 指標 11小時前

Cavs are #1 rated team on both offense and defense in 2k17. Warriors follow at #2 in both categories.

2K17中騎士是進攻防守都排第1的球隊。

勇士兩項均是第2。

[–]Raptors BandwagonJevvyMedia 29 指標 11小時前

Cavs are always overrated in 2k. This year it s especially bad because so many players in Cleveland are overrated because they play with Lebron.

騎士在2K中被高估了。今年被高估的尤其厲害，因為騎士太多球員因為跟勒布朗一起打球，他們被高估太多。

[–]KingsTheFoxKing5 165 指標 15小時前

I don t see it. Zero rim protection. And you break LeBron s body down having to guard the 4 position. I think we re going to see a mix of lineups until they find one that works.

Lue has a hell of a season ahead of him trying to get this team to work together.

我看不出這個安排有什麼好處。零護筐。而且讓勒布朗防守4號位是在消耗他的身體。我覺得在騎士找到一套可行方案之前，我們會看到很多種陣容的。

常規賽很漫長，盧指導有充足的時間來實驗排兵布陣。

[–]KingsTheFoxKing5 121 指標 15小時前

Not good for his longevity either. And who is going to defend the rim? Crowder is 6 6 and Love can t jump over a credit card.

這也不利於詹姆斯的生涯長度。而且誰來護筐呢？克勞德身高一米九八，而樂福的彈跳差到連張信用卡都跳不過去。

[–]wheresmyinhalor 161 指標 15小時前

Crowder would play and guard the 4

如果用樂福打中鋒的這套陣容的話，克勞德會打4號位並且防守對位人的。

[–]datrok 25 指標 14小時前

Break down his body? Lol dude

消耗詹姆斯的身體？老哥真逗。

[–]Count_Machocula 17 指標 14小時前

They should move him to guard the 2 so he doesn t break his body down as much as he would guarding the 3

騎士應該讓勒布朗防守2號位，這樣他的消耗就比防3號位少了。

[–]Pistonsitsallgoood 37 指標 13小時前

Guard the pg, become immortal

勒布朗去防控衛吧，這樣就能長生不老了。

[–][TOR] DeMar DeRozanDeRusselDeWestbrook 7 指標 11小時前

Yall think ya smart but they ve already made him guard nothing in the regular season. They re light years ahead.

你們覺得自己很聰明，但是騎士已經讓勒布朗在常規賽指揮交通了，他們幾年前就想到了。

[–]WestBamaborn97 59 指標 14小時前

Cavs will either win 120 to 118 or lose 120 to 90

騎士要麼120比118贏球，要麼就90比120輸球。

[–][SAS] Cherokee ParksTheHerdAlert83 15 指標 16小時前*

Full on 91 nuggets

average 120ppg

Give up 130 ppg

奔著90-91賽季的掘金去吧，場均得120分，失130分。

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