騎士三巨頭帶隊凈勝分，樂福帶隊超詹歐|歐文帶隊凈負33分

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騎士三巨頭帶隊凈勝分，樂福帶隊超詹歐|歐文帶隊凈負33分

Cavs net rating with all combinations of the big 3

騎士三巨頭之間每百回合凈勝分。

詹姆斯一人在場：+2；樂福一人在場：+14.5；歐文一人在場：-33.3

詹樂同時出場：+12.5

詹歐同時出場：+10.2

樂歐同時出場：+1.5

三巨頭一起在場上：+12.1

三巨頭同時不在場：-11.4

[–][WAS] Antawn JamisonLazrgator13 444 指標 3 天前

Kevin Love GOAT??

凱文-樂福歷史第一人？？？

[–][GSW] Shaun Livingstonvizhal007[S] 272 指標 3 天前

Trade LeBron and Kyrie, build around Love.

交易掉詹姆斯和歐文啊，圍繞樂福建一波隊。

[–][TOR] Jose Calderondeadskin 392 指標 3 天前

Trade LeBron and Kyrie for Cousins and Gay.

Build around Gay Love Cousins

把詹姆斯和歐文換成考辛斯蓋伊。

然後就能以基佬愛表妹（蓋伊樂福考辛斯）建隊了。

[–]76ersSlappyBagg 145 指標 3 天前

First time I"ve heard that joke

這個梗我還是第一次聽哎。

[–][MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpoparkertokounmpo 53 指標 3 天前

Kevin Love the real MVP.

凱文樂福才是真正的MVP。

[–]Celticschivestheconquerer 14 指標 3 天前

yeahh this doesn"t fit my preconceived notions of each player

這跟我對每個球員之前的印象不太一樣啊。

[–]76erssaintscanucks 113 指標 3 天前

Love has been better than Kyrie this season. Straight p fact.

If you said who are the best three players on the cavs in order this season it is inarguably

James

Love

irving

That said Kyrie will probably shut those claims down come april

樂福這賽季就是比歐文強，沒問題的。

如果你說這賽季騎士隊內最強的三個人是誰，順序排下來毫無爭議是：

詹姆斯

樂福

歐文

但是歐文估計四月份的時候會讓這種論調息聲。

[–]Raptorsfaithfuljohn 8 指標 3 天前

Kyrie is a great closer. Probably one of the best clutch players since Jordan... but he just can"t keep his team in the game. This is what both James & Love excel at.

歐文是個很棒的進攻終結者。可能是喬丹之後最會打關鍵球的球員之一……但他就是沒法讓自己的球隊在比賽里一直有競爭力，但這也恰好是詹姆斯和樂福所擅長的。

[–][GSW] Shaun Livingstonvizhal007[S] 172 指標 3 天前

Really surprising to see Kyrie do so horribly when he"s out there alone.

看到歐文單獨在場的時候這麼糟糕還真是有點吃驚。

[–][NOP] Buddy HieldLieutenantKumar 35 指標 3 天前

These are cool but it would be cooler if the circle size was adjusted for minutes or the minute were listed on there. Like Kyrie is -33 without those two but how many minutes is that?

這些數據挺有意思的，要是能把這個範圍縮小到以分鐘為標準，或者是把時間列出來就更有意思了。比如說歐文不帶那兩個人的時候球隊凈勝分是-33分，但這種情況一共有多少分鐘呢？

[–]Grizzliesjbrooks772 29 指標 3 天前

I agree that minutes should be listed.

To help (from other comments in this thread):

Kyrie has played 92 minutes without Love or Lebron.

Love has played 86 minutes without Kyrie or Lebron.

Lebron has played 250 minutes without Kyrie or Love.

我也覺得應該把時間列出來。

我給你們看一下吧：

歐文單獨帶隊92分鐘。

樂福單獨帶隊86分鐘。

詹姆斯單獨帶隊250分鐘。

[–]Pelicansjgman22 128 指標 3 天前

I mean he was a great individual who couldn"t make his teammates much better/team win before Love and Lebron got there so is it really that surprising?

歐文在詹姆斯和樂福去騎士之前，不能讓隊友表現更好，或者說不能讓球隊贏球這個事實，真的很令人驚訝么？

[–]CavaliersAPF429 190 指標 3 天前

well he was 18 years old on one of the worst teams (talent wise and record) that I"ve ever seen when he was the main guy. It"s such a terrible argument to use against Kyrie. The Pelicans are 17-26 with 23 year old AD and some pieces around him....kyrie was 18,19 and 20 years old with Dion Waiters as his best teammate and people wonder why his numbers were bad before LeBron came back? Crazy.

他18歲的時候就來到了NBA最爛的球隊（從戰績到球隊天賦）之一當扛把子。用這個東西來噴歐文並不合理。23歲的安東尼戴維斯帶隊的鵜鶘之有17勝26負，他還有一些不錯的角色球員在他身邊……歐文當時才18，9歲勉強20歲，而他身邊最強的幫手就是迪昂維特斯了，這個時候人們開始質疑他在詹姆斯來之前的的戰績不行？瘋了吧……

[–]LakersDmanning2 119 指標 3 天前

Kyrie Irving is 24 man r/nba treats him like he"s 28-30 vet. He"s still so young who is better than him that is younger? Giannis? KAT? AD? lol that"s it.

歐文才24歲，泥萌把他當作個28-30的老將一樣來要求。他還年輕，比他年輕的有誰比他強？字母哥？唐斯？安東尼戴維斯？呵呵估計也就這麼多了。

[–][CLE] LeBron JamesMChill17 58 指標 3 天前

This is nit picky but KAT isn"t better than kyrie

稍微認真一點來講，唐斯沒歐文強。

[–]Trail Blazerstylercomp 7 指標 3 天前

Kyrie does not cope well with loneliness

歐文處理不好一個人在場的寂寞時光。

[–]BullsMortyMootMope 5 指標 3 天前

-33.3 is a ridiculous fucking number

-33.3這數字也太驚人了……

[–]grpocz 5 指標 3 天前

Everybody rmbs his crunch time game changers but do not see his game as a whole. Defensive deficiencies are also not as obvious as offense deficiencies.

大家都記住了他那幾個嘎嘣脆響噹噹的改變比賽的球，但是沒有整體的看過他的比賽。防守端的也低效沒進攻端的低效那麼明顯。

[–]Cavalierstapk69 5 指標 3 天前

Kyrie is indeed a ball-hog shoot first PG but he has a killer instinct and can defend when he wants too, he just does not put the effort needed every night.

歐文是個持球型，得分為上的控衛，他同時也有殺手的本能，想要防守的時候也可以防一下，但他沒有每場比賽都這麼投入。

[–]CiFiniamo 5 指標 3 天前

One potential reason it"s like this is the Cavs rotation has LeBron come out midway through 1Q, and Love and Kyrie are there together with one or two other starters. LeBron plays with four bench players at the start of 2Q. Love is rarely the lone starter in the game.

Nothing positive or negative about those observations. Just pointing them out

還有一個潛在的原因是，在騎士的輪換里，詹姆斯第一節打到一半就下去了，然後歐文樂福和其他兩個首發一起在場上。詹姆斯在第二節開始的時候和四個替補一起上場。樂福很少會在比賽里成為場上的唯一一個騎士先發隊員。

這實際上不吹不黑，就是事實而已。

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