模板定偏了！英格拉姆和新秀阿杜有可比性嗎？合適的對比該是普林斯

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模板定偏了！英格拉姆和新秀阿杜有可比性嗎？合適的對比該是普林斯

For those familiar with Kevin Durant"s rookie season, what would you say the biggest differences are between rookie Durant and current Brandon Ingram? (self.nba)

那些熟悉凱文-杜蘭特新秀賽季表現的人來說說， 你們覺得新秀杜蘭特和現在的布蘭登-英哥拉姆有啥區別嗎？

in terms of overall game, play style etc.?

就整體的技術角度和球風之類的來說說？

[–]LakersHolajuwon34 59 指標 10小時前

Rookie KD was 20x better as a scorer

新秀杜蘭特作為得分手來說要強上20倍。

[–]CelticsWarlandoboom 2 指標 10小時前

Basketball skills.

籃球技術上更強。

[–][LAL] Shaquille O"Nealtripledoubles 25 指標 10小時前

He was better at everything in his rookie year

新秀杜蘭特所有方面都更強。

[–][LAL] Luke Waltonredbrick 34 指標 10小時前

Kevin Durant could actually shoot

凱文-杜蘭特實際上是有投射的。

[–]CelticsBrad-Stevens 12 指標 10小時前

I mean he averaged 20+ on 43% shooting

我的意思是阿杜新秀當年也是43%命中率場均20+得分吶。

[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingisabippityboop 19 指標 10小時前

Yeah the Kevin Durant comparison was unfair to begin with, but it"s becoming increasingly obvious that these are 2 very different players. Not even talking about skill level, which Durant was much better than Ingram his rookie year, they just play a completely different game.

Ingram seems to project to more of a Batum type player to me. A tall, lanky wing who can defend multiple positions, get to the rim, make plays in transition, and hopefully develop a 3 point shot.

沒錯，拿凱文杜蘭特來對比英哥拉姆從一開始就是不公平的。但是現在很明顯了，他們兩人就是非常不同類型的球員。都不用提技術層面的事了，杜蘭特新秀年比英格拉姆強多了，他們的比賽是完全不同的。

我個人覺得，英格拉姆看起來更像是以巴圖姆為模板類項的球員。一個非常瘦高的翼側球員，能防多個位置，能攻擊籃筐，能在攻防轉換中製造機會，還有希望開發出3分球。

[–]RaptorsBismackMyBiyombo 9 指標 10小時前

Tayshan Prince

（模板該是)泰肖恩-普林斯

[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingisabippityboop 3 指標 10小時前

Yeah damn that might be even better. Was trying to find someone active, but Prince is dead on. Maybe somewhere in the middle? I think Ingram could probably develop into a slightly better playmaker than Prince, but who knows.

沒錯，卧槽，普林斯的對比要更加好一些。我之前想找一個現役的球員模板呢，但是普林斯是完全合適的。也許介於普林斯和巴圖姆之間吧？ 我認為英格拉姆很可能發展成為一個組織進攻稍微加強版的普林斯， 但是誰知道呢。

[–]Lakersvictor396 3 指標 9小時前

Prince was a really good conductor for the ball, he just didn"t shine in that aspect because of Billups

普林斯實際上在傳導球上真的非常出色， 只是因為有比盧普斯在，他的那方面特長沒有發揮出來罷了。

[–]HornetsYizWasHere 8 指標 10小時前

Batum actually seems like a really good comparison. Ingram"s got a good shot to make that leap that Batum never could though.

我覺得巴圖姆是個真的非常不錯的對比。 不過英格拉姆比起巴圖姆來說更有機會大爆發打出來。

[–]Nuggetsadamisinterested 28 指標 10小時前*

KD entered the league as an elite scorer from all over the floor. His defense were maybe a little worse than Ingram, but he was a top 20ish offensive player from day 1.

阿杜進入聯盟時就已經是場上無所不能的精英級得分手了。 他當時的防守也許比英格拉姆稍微差一些，但是阿杜從第一天起就是前20的進攻端球員。

[–]johncenatbh 11 指標 10小時前

He wasn"t an elite scorer, he was called inefficient and a blackhole, averaged more TO than assists, in the 2nd year he turned elite right away

阿杜當時並不算是精英級得分手，他當時被人稱作「低效和黑洞」，場均的失誤數比助攻數更多。到了第2年，阿杜則馬上變成精英級了。

[–]76ersSlappyBagg 5 指標 10小時前

KD shot 43% from the floor and 29% from 3 in his rookie season. He has elite potential but he was in no way elite. He was getting buckets but he was nowhere near the efficient scoring machine he was a few years later.

阿杜新秀賽季投籃命中率有43%，3分球29%。他有精英級的潛力，但當時並不是精英級的。他能得分，但卻一點也算不上是高效的得分機器，比幾年後的他差老遠了。

[–]Cavalierstapk69 3 指標 10小時前

lol.. Durant was always a great scorer, even as a rookie he finished with 20ppg, only a few are capable of that. Ingram is a project.

哈哈。。杜蘭特一直就是個出色的得分手，就算是新秀賽季也能場均20分。只有很少人能做到這點，英格蘭是個未完成品項目。

[–]Nuggetsclancydog4 4 指標 10小時前

People vastly overestimated Ingram"s stroke. He is nothing compared to what KD was in his first few seasons. Sure, Ingram had a solid percentage in college, but he was taking largely open shots with a shorter line. KD came into the league with a much better ability to hit difficult shots. Plus, KD was/is notably more athletic, taller, and more skilled. And was as a rookie. Simply put, Ingram just isn"t nearly as good overall in virtually every aspect.

人們極大地高估了英格拉姆的手感。他跟頭幾個賽季的阿杜完全沒得比。當然，英格拉姆在大學時的命中率確實還靠譜，但他當時的投籃大多是空位出手，而且三分線也更短。 阿杜進入聯盟時，命中高難度出手的能力就要強得多。而且阿杜很明顯運動天賦更強，更高，技術更嫻熟。 簡單說，作為新秀，英格拉姆幾乎在所有方面都比不上阿杜。

[–]WyaOfWade 4 指標 10小時前

The only similarity is that they"re both lanky af

他們之間唯一類似的就是身形都瘦長得一比。

[–]76erssnommisneb 3 指標 10小時前

The difference? Ingram is playing strictly according to Luke"s plays and not breaking them whatsoever.

Durant on the other hand was firing up shots and was free to do mostly whatever when he was in his rookie season.And Luke"s basically playing the Warriors system in the Lakers.

BASICALLY INGRAM IS A BEAST WAITING TO BE FUCKING UNLEASHED.

他們的區別？ 英格拉姆嚴格按照沃頓的戰術安排打球， 並沒有越界。而另一方面，杜蘭特在新秀賽季時則有無限自由的投籃開火權。 而且沃頓基本在湖人打的就是勇士那套體系。

英格拉姆可以說尼瑪就是一頭等待解除封印的野獸！

[–]Aahhreallmunsterssss 62 指標 13 天前

Ingram isn"t like Durant though. He plays like a mix of Leonard with more handles? Or maybe like Giannis with less athleticism but more shooting Idk, he"s a point forward for sure but he isn"t durant like, other then appearances

不過英格拉姆並不像杜蘭特。 他的球風更像是控球更好的混合版倫納德？ 也許又像是運動能力減弱版的字母歌，但是投射要更好些，我也確定。 他無疑是一個控鋒，但除了外貌之外他並不像杜蘭特。

[–]LakersZeratzul 6 指標 13 天前

Agreed, he"s only like Durant in his body size and ability to drive . He has a surprising amount of BBIQ as well, fits into systems almost seamlessly... thank you Coach K.

I haven"t seen someone so skinny seek out so much contact though man. He"s a tough kid in a really lanky body.

湖蜜：同意，英格拉姆只在身體尺寸上和突破能力上像阿杜。他的籃球智商也出人意料得好，幾乎能無縫銜接所有體系。。。這多虧了老K教練。 我還沒見過像這麼瘦弱的人能這麼多地尋求身體接觸，他的身體很瘦，但卻是個強硬的小子。

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