場均三雙只打34分鐘，美球迷點贊多諾萬嚴控威少出場時間

運動 04-11

美國JRS之聲

Billy Donovan should get credit for restricting Westbrook to only 34.4 MPG

(self.nba)

比利-多諾萬應該為他把維斯布魯克的場均上場時間維持在34.4分鐘而得到讚賞。

He is only 20th in MPG despite the Thunder back-up point guards being absolute trash this year (the team has a -9.2 net rating with Westbrook off the floor). Donovan must have been tempted at times to play Westbrook for 38-39 minutes per game. The Thunder might have won a few more games had Westbrook played more minutes but it"s unlikely that Westbrook would have been able to maintain his insane intensity while staying healthy and unfatigued over the whole season if he was playing 38+ MPG. Instead Donovan has restricted Westbrook to a reasonable number of minutes and now it"s the last week of the season, WB has triple doubles in his last 6 games and is looking fresh and ready for the playoffs.

目前威少的場均上場時間在聯盟中只排在第20位，儘管雷霆的替補控衛是徹頭徹尾的垃圾（當威少下場後，球隊的凈勝分立馬減少了9.2分）。多諾萬在心裡肯定經常會想要讓威少場均打個38-39分鐘這樣，如果威少上場時間再多一點的話，也許雷霆會贏下更多的比賽。然而他不太可能在一整個賽季打出這種高強度競爭水準的同時保持健康，如果他場均出場38+分鐘以上的時間的話。與之相反，多諾萬一直把他的上場時間控制在了一個合理的範圍內，現在儘管已經進入到了常規賽的最後一周，威少仍然在他的最近6場比賽里都拿到了三雙，並看上去為季後賽卯足了勁，體力非常充沛。

[–][GSW] Andre Iguodala7heMA77 36 指標 1 天前

Given the intensity and effort he always plays with, and his high USG%, it would be a terrible idea to have him play more than that.

The players with super high MPG are not nearly as active or intense on the court as WB. LeBron would be the only possible exception but even he is nowhere nearly as constantly active as WB.

I think of him as the basketball equivalent to Rafael Nadal. Excellent player who put ridiculous effort into every point and played with a much more physically demanding style than anyone else.

With his gamestyle, playing as much as the top MPG players would be be asking for an injury. Even excluding the injury potential, it would be too exhausting on his body.

I don"t think OKC would have won more games that way because it would"ve hurt Westbrooks game. It just wouldn"t have been sustainable for him.

鑒於他在打球時一貫傾注的努力和強度，以及他的高使用率，讓他打超過上面的出場時間會是個非常糟的想法。

那些場均上場時間非常高的球員的積極性和比賽強度都無法和威少相比。勒布朗可能是唯一一個例外，但是就算是他，在持續積極程度上，也和威少差遠了。

我覺得維斯布魯克就是籃球界里的納達爾。非常出色的球員，對每一分都傾注了常人無法想像的努力，而且比其他任何球員的打法對身體的要求都要高。

在他這種打法下，如果讓他和那些出場時間最多的球員打相同的時間，就相當於去尋求傷病了。就算除去傷病隱患，那樣對他的身體也會太過疲憊。

我不認為雷霆會因為威少多出場一些時間就贏下更多的比賽，因為那樣會傷害他的比賽方式。他的比賽方式讓他不能夠支撐那麼多的上場時間。

[–]ThunderGrolgar 37 指標 1 天前

I agree, but I still agree that most coaches wouldn"t have the discipline to keep his minutes this low.

我同意，但是我仍然相信絕大多數的教練都沒有這種自律去把他的上場時間控制到如此低。

[–]Thunderunderceeeeej 3 指標 1 天前

Especially when you"re taking him out to send semaj christon or campayne in

尤其是當你換下他時需要讓克里斯頓或佩恩上場。

[–]HeatHerculix 5 指標 1 天前

The idea is terrible, but where the credit is deserved is that basically WB"s team needs him to win. Like, they are Nets bad without him. It is very tempting to treat this season like it"s the first year of a rebuild, let WB play as much as he wants, and run it. Cavs have done that exact thing to LeBron for the exact reasons many teams would mistakenly overplay WB.

雖然讓威少打很多的時間是個糟糕的想法，但是多諾萬仍然應該為此得到肯定，因為基本上威少的球隊都需要他上場去贏得勝利。沒了他，雷霆就好像跟籃網差不多爛。而且教練非常有可能就把這賽季當成重建的第一年，讓威少想打多久就打多久，然後就這樣實施。騎士便正是這樣對待勒布朗的，因為同樣的原因，很多球隊都可能會錯誤的過度使用威少。

[–]Trevorsaccount 4 指標 1 天前

I never watch OKC but isn"t it typical to rest players when you"ve won the game or when you lost the game? Wouldn"t it be common sense to take westbrook out against the warriors when they get far enough behind or against the nets when they get far enough ahead? Did the coach really bench Westbrook when games were on the line because of his upstanding MPG principles?

我從來沒看過雷霆的比賽，但是難道在你已經穩贏或穩輸的比賽里讓你的球員休息不是很正常的事嗎？難道讓威少在對陣勇士已經大幅落後或者對陣籃網已經大幅領先時休息不正常嗎？難道教練真的會讓威少在比分緊咬的比賽里下場休息，就因為他良好的出場時間限制嗎？

[–]Thunderkamikazeguy 12 指標 1 天前

Westbrook usually sits at around the 2 minute mark of the first and late into the 2nd quarter.

威少總是在第一節最後2分鐘節點那時下場休息，並在第二節開始很長時間後才再次上場。

[–]Thundercplbernard 13 指標 1 天前

yeah we have a very consistent minutes allocation for russ, i know excatly when to tune in and out.

雷蜜：是的，我們對於威少的上場時間的控制總是非常穩定一致的，我很清楚的知道什麼時候該開始看比賽，什麼時候該換台。

[–]Warriorskevindlv 2 指標 1 天前

Same with Steph, I went to the game against Houston last Friday and knew exactly when to get up for more snacks/beer.

庫里也是一樣的，上周五我去現場看了勇士對陣火箭的比賽，我清楚的知道什麼時候該站起來多叫點零食/啤酒。

[–][OKC] Kevin Durantchopsuey8 6 指標 1 天前

Memphis vs OKC game earlier, was tied somewhere around 72, less than 3mins before the 3rd qtr ends, Westbrook hit 2 Three pointers and he got benched after for the next 5-6mins. OKC was scoreless during those period. When he came back, Memphis leads already and has the momentum. But WB came, and he changed the flow. Incredible guy!

雷蜜：在灰熊vs雷霆這場比賽離結束還早的時候，我們打成了72平，當時離第三節結束還只有不到3分鐘的時間了，威少連續命中了2記三分球，然後他就被換下了，一直休息了接下來的5-6分鐘。雷霆在那段時間裡無法得分，當他再次上場時，灰熊已經取得了領先，並起了勢。但是威少回來了，而且他改變了比賽的走向，非常不可思議的傢伙！

[–]MagicIteLacerti 314 指標 1 天前

Billy D is an amazing coach. There was a good article last year about how he used the regular season to experiment with different lineups, knowing that some of them would crash and burn, but focusing less on the game to game results and thinking more about how he could make use of them in the playoffs. I suspect that Westbrook"s minutes this season were largely a product of this approach.

多諾萬是名非常出色的教練，去年有篇很棒的文章介紹了他是如何利用常規賽去試驗各種陣容，儘管他知道其中一些搭配的效果可能會很慘淡，但是他並不太關注每一場比賽的結果，而是更多的去想如何在季後賽里去使用他們。我感覺威少這賽季的上場時間很大程度上是這個嘗試的結果。

[–]dailycrossover 318 指標 1 天前

He out coaches Pop and Steve Kerr for two straight series too lol. People don"t remember that tho.

哈哈哈，多諾萬連續在兩個系列賽中擊敗了波波維奇和科爾。人們已經不記得那時候了。

[–]JLThunder 255 指標 1 天前*

Definitely out coached/schemed both championship coaches. It took Klay going nuclear in game 6 and KD and Westbrook going cold for the Warriors to win that series. Not much coaching can do about that.

他絕對在執教/策略上都優於這兩位冠軍教頭。最終依靠克萊在G6核武器般的表現以及雙少冰涼的手感，勇士才贏下了那輪系列賽，對於那樣的表現，教練並沒有什麼辦法。

[–]Knickstommy_the_tit 1 指標 16小時前

because Klay and Curry remembered that they could cook any big man that switched onto them.

I think they were a combined 100% when guarded by Adams and Ibaka on the perimeter in Games 6-7

因為後來克萊和庫里想起來了他們能把任何換防到他們的大個子都炒熟了，當G6-7在外線被亞當斯或者伊巴卡防守時，我感覺他倆加起來的得分成功率已經達到了100%。

[–]CavaliersNaijfreak 39 指標 1 天前

Everybody went for the ultralight threes and he just made rebounding his go to second strategy. Ibaka, Adams and Kanter athletic board eaters

在每支球隊都追求快速三分的今天，他卻把籃板作為自己的第二王牌。伊巴卡，亞當斯和坎特都是運動能力極強的籃板手。

[–][SAS] Danny Greendiffeqmaster 57 指標 1 天前

Spurs had no answer for the Kanter and Adams glass eating lineup last season. Diaw and West would get destroyed on the glass and Duncan wasn"t quick enough to defend them. Spurs would have a 10, 12, 15 point lead and then billy would put in these two giants against diaw and west and it would even out the game.

It won them the series.

刺蜜：上個賽季馬刺對於坎特和亞當斯組成的沖搶籃板陣容毫無辦法。迪奧和韋斯特直接會在籃板方面被他們摧毀，而鄧肯的速度也不足以去防守他倆。馬刺每次都會先取得10，12，15分這樣的領先優勢，多諾萬便會把這兩個巨人放到場上去對抗迪奧和韋斯特，然後比賽就重新回到了同一起跑線上。

這個策略讓他們贏得了系列賽。

[–]ThunderStormStooper 24 指標 1 天前

There are Thunder "fans" who want him fired. STFU to all those dumbasses.

然而卻有很多雷霆的「球迷」希望他被解僱，那些人是真的傻。

[–]Thunderthe_hibachi 11 指標 1 天前

I wanted his head on a spike after game one of the San Antonio series. Egg on my face ˉ_(ツ)_/ˉ

在G1慘敗了馬刺後，我想要他的頭被掛在長釘上。我真是自己打自己的臉。

[–]ThunderStormStooper 5 指標 1 天前

Yep. See them all the time after a Thunder loss, I guess he should only be fired when we lose. They"re especially prevalent on /r/Thunder

雷蜜：是的，每當雷霆輸球時他們就會跳出來，我想多諾萬隻應該在我們輸球時才被解僱吧。這種論調在雷霆專區非常流行。

[–]Bullsorphy 57 指標 1 天前

I remember during the playoffs last year, I was pretty convinced there was no way a first year NBA coach could take out the Spurs in a series. Boy was I wrong.

我還記得在去年季後賽的時候，我非常堅信無論如何一個菜鳥教練都不可能在一個系列賽中擊敗馬刺的。朋友，我錯了。

[–]Bullsorphy 19 指標 1 天前

Absolutely. I guess don"t discredit those couple NCAA titles he got in Florida. He"s a terrific coach.

正是這樣，我想我們不應該輕視他帶領佛羅里達大學取得的NCAA二連冠的表現，他是個非常不錯的教練。

[–]ThunderGrolgar 77 指標 1 天前

And it wasn"t just like the Thunder outplayed the Spurs, Donovan out-schemed them. His big lineups that we didn"t use much during the season were amazing. Then he pivoted and went small (everyone thought we should stay big) to go up 3-1 on the Warriors... I blacked out after game 5.

而且並不只是說雷霆的球員比馬刺發揮出色，而是多諾萬在戰術上擊敗了他們。在常規賽時我們用的不多的大個陣容在那輪系列賽里簡直不可思議。然後他又對陣容進行了360度的改變，用小球陣容（儘管每個人都覺得我們應該保持大個陣容）在對陣勇士時取得了3-1的領先......當然，G5後的情形讓我差點昏了過去。

[–]ThunderScruffTheJanitor 4 指標 1 天前

I think the end of game 6 is the angriest I have been in my life.

雷蜜：我覺得G6的最後是我一生中最氣憤的時刻。

[–]TheHeartfeltKid 2 指標 1 天前

I wrote about this in a YouTube comment a few days ago. It"s frustrating as a OKC fan to watch him intentionally screw up the rotation, but it has worked well for him so far. The only problem I have with it is that sometimes his 3rd quarter rotation completely ruins OKC"s scoring abililty and has lost them a few too many games (WCF game 6).

幾天前我在YouTube評論上就這樣寫過，作為一個雷霆球迷，看到他總是故意的調整輪換陣容是非常沮喪的一件事，但是目前為止他做的還不錯。我對於這種做法唯一的問題就是，他在第三節的輪換有時候會讓球隊完全喪失得分能力，並因此輸掉了過多的比賽（比如去年西決第六場）。

[–]MagicMax96 13 指標 1 天前

And that"s how he figured out Westbrook-Waiters-Roberson-Durant-Ibaka would destroy the Warrior"s death lineup, I guess. Still can"t beleive they lost that series.

但是我想這也正是他能想出維斯布魯克-維特斯-羅伯森-杜蘭特-伊巴卡這套能夠摧毀勇士「死亡五小」陣容的原因。

[–][DAL] Brian Cardinalmgmfa 28 指標 1 天前

Imagine Thibs coaching the Thunder this year...

想像一下如果今年是錫伯杜在執教雷霆吧...

[–]Sunsnotouchmypeterson 17 指標 1 天前

Westbrook 60 point triple doubles

那威少可能會拿下60分的大三雙。

[–]SpursAccelerationGate 17 指標 1 天前

...For 20 games then out with 4 season ending knee injuries

...那樣的表現也只能持續20場，然後就是4個賽季連續的膝傷報銷。

[–]TimberwolvesNebuchadnezzarJack 46 指標 1 天前

Imagine if Thibs was his coach. Might make a run at Wilts MPG record