今夏頂薪可達5年2.07億美元，猛龍是否該給31歲的洛瑞這份合同？

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今夏頂薪可達5年2.07億美元，猛龍是否該給31歲的洛瑞這份合同？

Should the Raptors give Lowry (turning 31 this summer) a 5 year 207 million contract? (self.nba)

猛龍應該給洛瑞（今年夏天就31歲）一份5年價值2.07億美元的頂薪合同嗎？

Kyle Lowry is an unrestricted free agent this summer and since he"s a 10 year vet he"s eligible for a 35% max deal with 8% raises from Toronto and 5% raises from any other team. Tortonto can offer a max 5 year deal while any other team can offer only 4 years. The table below is a breakdown of the max scenarios for Lowry

Contract Amount ($M)

Raptors 5 year max 207.4

Raptors 4 year max 159.3

Other team 4 year max 152.4

Do you think the Raptors should give Lowry a 5 year 207 million contract this summer?

今年夏天洛瑞將會成為一名非受限的自由球員，同時因為他已經是一名效力了10年的老將了，從而他有資格從猛龍獲得一份占工資帽35%，每年增額8%的頂薪，其他隊則只能給出每年5%的增額。猛龍能給出一份5年頂薪，而其他隊只能開出4年。下面的表具體分析了洛瑞能夠拿到頂薪的情形：

合同 金額（美元）

猛龍5年頂薪 2.074億

猛龍4年頂薪 1.593億

其他球隊4年頂薪 1.524億

你認為猛龍應該在今年夏天給洛瑞一份5年價值2.07億美元的頂薪合同嗎？

[–][MIA] Dwyane WadeDeja-Vu-Virus 98 指標 2 天前

Anyone willing to give that much for a 31 year old is going to regret it. End of story.

任何一個願意給31歲老將這麼大合同的人都會後悔的，結束爭論。

[–]Celtics Bandwagonbootum 78 指標 2 天前

Unless he"s an all star like joakim noer

除非他是像喬金-諾阿這樣的全明星。

[–]Lakerspickprotection[S] 8 指標 2 天前

The Clippers are about to give that much to a 32 year old (although he is much better than Lowry)

然而快船即將給一位32歲的老將這麼多錢了（儘管他比洛瑞出色很多）。

[–]Cavaliersbutter-muffins 43 指標 2 天前

Players like Chris Paul and LeBron don"t really apply. Everyone knows that they are generational players and their games are ageing really well. For player like Millsap and Lowry are dangerous because they could dangerously decline any possible season.

像保羅和勒布朗這樣的球員沒什麼可比性。每個人都知道他們是球場指揮官，而且他們會非常順滑的老去。但是像米爾薩普和洛瑞這樣的球員就很危險了，因為他們可能在任何一個賽季里就突然跳水了。

[–]RaptorsCoryJoseph6 12 指標 2 天前

chris pauls playoff stats are legendary. Lowry consistently chokes.

保羅的季後賽數據是傳奇級別的，洛瑞則總是啞火。

[–]Jazz BandwagonJustinblackjackk 9 指標 2 天前

Team isnt shit without Lowry though

而且沒了洛瑞這支球隊也不差啊。

[–]Lakersdevomorales 38 指標 2 天前

yes because that"s only $155M in us money

湖蜜：是的，因為我們只用花1.55億就能簽下他了。

[–]Wolves BandwagonRoyalLake 60 指標 2 天前

The real question is should Toronto let Lowry walk for nothing? Because that"s what would happen. And the answer is a clear no.

真正的問題在於猛龍是否應該白白放走洛瑞？因為這正是會發生的事情，答案顯然是否定的。

[–][PHI] Allen Iversonbonerbasketball 20 指標 2 天前

You can"t commit all that money to a 31 year old who can"t play in the playoffs. They"d be better of building around Derozan

你不能把這麼多錢投到一個31歲不會打季後賽的老將身上。他們最好圍繞著德羅贊建隊。

[–][TOR] Serge Iba*河蟹*tyDanoTho 38 指標 2 天前

The thing is we can"t build off DeRozan. We can"t build anymore period. No cap space.

猛龍蜜：關鍵是我們也無法圍繞德羅贊建隊啊，目前我們無法再添加任何的球員了，沒有薪金空間了。

[–]RaptorsCoryJoseph6 10 指標 2 天前

why not? What"s the point if he"s like this every year? I"m willing to wait to the end of the playoffs and see but look at him today. It"s the same shit the last 4 years. We can"t give him a max only for him to crumble under playoff pressure.

為什麼非要簽下洛瑞呢？如果他每年都像這樣的話，簽下他的意義在哪裡？我願意等到季後賽結束後再做決定，但是看看他現在的樣子吧，跟過去4年的表現一模一樣。就因為他無法承受季後賽的壓力這一個原因，我們就不能給他頂薪。

[–]Wolves BandwagonRoyalLake 19 指標 2 天前

Ok, you let him walk. Now what? You have no cap space and are much worse at PG. Where do you go from there?

好，那麼你放他走了。那麼現在情況又變成什麼了呢？你們既沒有了薪金空間，PG位置上的實力又急劇下降。你該如何從這種情況下走出來呢？

[–]LakersKsanti 17 指標 2 天前*

The raptors are sneakily in a pretty similar situation to the clippers in that it"s shit or get off the pot, but getting off the pot means fringe playoff/lottery obscurity for a while for a franchise and ownership that might not be able to survive extended obscurity. They"re not on the tail end yet unlike the clippers but basically the plan for then has to be try to keep ibaka and Lowry whatever happens this playoffs. If you can get Lowry to agree to a shorter contract that"d be ideal but if it"s what it takes it"s what it takes.

From an infinite horizon perspective, sure, you probably shouldn"t sign him to that, but if you want to be relevant for the next 5 years you basically need him at this point. Not paying Lowry is basically a commitment to trading Derozan as well.

猛龍現在的情況和快船差不多，要麼就一直這樣半罐子晃蕩，或者直接就拆散重建算了，但是重建意味著很長一段時間內球隊都會處在季後賽/樂透區的邊緣，也許管理層不會想要這種情形發生。猛龍現在還沒到快船這樣的絕境，但是簡單的說，目前猛龍的計劃就是在休賽期無論如何都留下伊巴卡和洛瑞，不管季後賽的情形如何。如果你能讓洛瑞同意簽下年數短一點的合同就很理想，但是如果你真的需要花這麼多錢才能讓他留下來的話，就花吧。

從超級客觀的角度來看，確實，你可能不應該給他這麼大的合同，但是如果你想要在未來5年里都保持競爭力，在這個時間點上你絕對需要留下洛瑞。不給洛瑞合同基本上也表明你得準備好交易德羅贊了。

[–]Lakers Bandwagonjimmcdermont 30 指標 2 天前

Optimally, should they? No.

Will they pay what they need to in order to keep him because that"s their best option to stay a good team? Yes.

Also, you"re picking one helluva time to post this. There"ll definitely be no recency bias.

從最優的角度來說，他們應該給洛瑞頂薪嗎？答案肯定是「不」。

但是他們會花這麼多錢去留下洛瑞，因為他是猛龍保持競爭力最好的選擇嗎？答案肯定是「是」。

另外，樓主你發帖的時機也很差，球迷們肯定會因為他最近的表現而帶有偏見。

[–]Celticsabrooks1125 4 指標 2 天前

No. For the same reasons I don"t want the Celtics to max IT next summer. But someone will max Lowry if Toronto does, and they can"t afford to let him walk for nothing after going all in to make this push.

凱蜜：不應該給頂薪，和我不想凱爾特人給小托馬斯頂薪的原因一樣。但是如果猛龍不給洛瑞頂薪，別人會給的，而且他們無法承受白白放走洛瑞帶來的後果，尤其是已經全力以赴去提高競爭力之後。

[–]Ittybittyballers28 3 指標 2 天前

Yes. No way they can separate him from his best friend

應該給，他們沒有任何道理去把洛瑞與他最好的朋友分開。

[–]Trail BlazersTheRealDevDev 3 指標 2 天前

Yesssssss Raptors fans, welcome to a similar predicament that Portland faced last year. Do we lose a player for nothing (since even by not re-signing Lowry you"ll be over the cap).

You guys will sign him because you don"t let assets walk for nothing once you"re at or near the cap.

開拓者蜜：你們應該給頂薪，猛龍蜜們，歡迎來到和去年我們開拓者面對過的類似的困境中，我們沒有白白放走任何一位球員（而且就算你們不繼續和洛瑞續約，你們也已經超過工資帽了）。

你們肯定應該簽下他，因為你不能白白得讓球隊資產流失，尤其是當你已經達到工資帽或者接近工資帽的時候。

[–][TOR] DeMar DeRozanN7Brendan 14 指標 2 天前

Recency bias ahoy (it"s one game fellas)

We don"t have a choice, we let him walk for nothing or sign him for 2-3 more years of his prime.

猛龍蜜：都是些受最近比賽影響而產生的偏見（這只是一場比賽啊，老哥們）。

我們沒有任何選擇，我們要麼就白白放他走，要麼就簽下他，再得到他2~3年的巔峰。

[–]Spurssg_wannabe 21 指標 2 天前

Playoff Lowry has been more than one game.

季後賽洛瑞像這樣的表現又不是一天兩天了。

[–][TOR] DeMar DeRozanN7Brendan 6 指標 2 天前

Dude I don"t fucking know, he averages pretty damn good in the season and did alright in the second and ecf last year, I have no clue why he underperforms in round 1 despite being a really good player otherwise.

朋友我真的不懂，他整個賽季都做得非常棒，去年在第二輪和東部決賽時也很好，我只是想不通為什麼洛瑞總在第一輪發揮失常，儘管他是個非常棒的球員。

[–]RaptorsWatchadoinfoo 1 指標 2 天前

If we sign him to a 5 year max i"ll be sad

Now, a 3 year max? With a team option on a 4th??? Now we"re getting somewhere

如果我們給了洛瑞5年頂薪我會非常傷心。

但是，3年頂薪？第四年球隊選項？？？這聽起來還不錯嘛。

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