多數人都認為騎士總決賽對勇士機會不大？美球迷怎麼看

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多數人都認為騎士總決賽對勇士機會不大？美球迷怎麼看

Why do most people act like LeBron doesn"t have a chance of winning the title this year? (self.nba)

為什麼人們都表現得好像勒布朗今年根本沒有機會拿到總冠軍一樣？

在所有的情況下，除非發生了重大傷病，今年的總決賽將會是騎勇大戰的第三部曲（就算髮生了傷病，這兩支球隊也是最可能打進總決賽的）。總之在7場系列賽中，歐文已經證明過自己能在其中4場中表現強於庫里，這點沒有什麼可爭論的。

至於球員在場上產生的影響（並不是以位置而劃分），克萊和樂福的作用很相似，尤其是在季後賽中，雖然常規賽里不盡相同。騎士和勇士的替補也實力相當，而且在季後賽里替補並不會對比賽產生很大的影響，除非你的首發是十足的垃圾。

這樣就只剩下了三個因素：勒布朗，KD和格林。勒布朗所有需要做的事情就是在進攻端表現得比杜蘭特出色，同時在防守端強過格林就行（攻防一手抓）。我知道這事情說起來比做到容易多了，因為你要比一個多年的得分王在進攻端更出色，同時在防守端強過很可能是今年DPOY的格林，但是如果勒布朗真的是喬丹後世界上最偉大的球員，他就應該有能力做到這一點。勒布朗在目前為止的表現都太棒了，所以我認為以上分析最站不住腳的地方可能就是樂福在總決賽里打出和克萊一樣的影響力。

In all probability, it"s going to be a cavs-warriors trilogy barring injuries to either side(even with injuries these teams have the best chance of making the finals). Anyway In a 7 game series Kyrie has proved he can outplay Steph for 4 games already, there"s no debating that.

In terms of impact on the floor (not position), klay and klove are very similar, especially in playoff games, not so in the reg season. Their benches are pretty comparable and the bench doesn"t really make much of a difference in the playoffs, unless your starters are absolutely trash.

That just leaves 3 pieces: LeBron, KD, draymond. All LeBron has to do is to outplay KD on offense and bray on defense(pun intended). I know it"s easier said than done to outplay a perennial scoring champ and possibly dpoy, but if LeBron really is the best player since MJ then he"s gotta be able to do it. LeBron is playing so well rn that I think the weakest part of my argument is love having the same impact as klay.

[–][DEN] Chauncey BillupsChamp_Bailey 66 指標 1 天前

I mean I give the cavs a chance but a very low one. The warriors have probably the most talented roster ever and they all fit together like a glove

我的意思是，我還是覺得騎士有機會贏下比賽，不過可能性非常渺茫。勇士有著最有天賦的陣容，而且他們的化學反應還非常緊密。

[–]Warriorsuntouchable765 48 指標 1 天前

Most people with common sense know the Cavs have a chance

大多數有常識人都知道騎士是有機會的。

[–]Bullshimynameisroger 29 指標 1 天前

Most people with common sense

We"re in /r/NBA

「大多數有常識的人」

我們可是在濕乎乎

[–]o0adam0o 1 指標 1 天前

10% chance they can outright win it. The only way to improve their chances is if there is a Warriors injury.

Warriors are just too stacked.

騎士只有10%的機會去贏得總冠軍，唯一提高他們機會的可能性就是勇士出現傷病。

勇士的陣容真心太強。

[–]Warriorsjmnoon25 19 指標 1 天前

Idk who says LeBron doesn"t have a chance because whenever I say I think Warriors will win, I get hit with "Never count LeBron out" "3-1" "Never bet against LeBron"

勇蜜：我不知道是誰說勒布朗一點機會都沒有的，因為每當我認為勇士會贏得總冠軍時，我就被「永遠不要低估勒布朗」「3-1」「永遠不要站在勒布朗的對立面」這種事情所打擊。

[–]Cavaliersboogswald 18 指標 1 天前

The reason is because most of what you suggested is wishful thinking. Kyrie is great, but one playoff series where Steph is a bit hurt does not mean he"s always better in a playoff series. Lebron James is not going to play better defense than Draymond Green and at the absolute very least, 1 out of 7 nights, I bet Durant is better offensively. Lebron is on another level again this year, but Durant is one of the most efficient offensive players I"ve ever seen. One of the Cavs greatest weaknesses is defending the PnR and the Warriors have so many great ways to use that play. One plus you"re not mentioning for the Cavs, too, is Steve Kerr is out and Ty Lue has shown himself to be a pretty good coach in the Playoffs. He has historically made great adjustments throughout multiple series.

I don"t totally count the Cavs out but you"re being unrealistic and overgeneralizing problems the team has.

原因在於樓主絕大多數的假設都只是美好的想法罷了。歐文確實很棒，但是在一輪庫里受傷了的系列賽中超過他並不意味著歐文總是能在季後賽中擊敗庫里。勒布朗是不會在防守端比格林還強的，最起碼7個晚上中有1個他不會比格林還出色，而我絕對敢說杜蘭特在進攻端是更出色的球員。勒布朗今年確實又達到了另外一個水平，但是KD是我見過的在進攻端最有效率的球員。騎士一大致命缺陷就是對於擋拆的防守，而勇士有太多出色的擋拆使用方式了。不過另外一個樓主沒有提到有利於騎士的消息就是，科爾現在無法上場執教了，而盧已經證明過自己是個非常不錯的季後賽教練。他在以往的很多系列賽中都做出過很出色的調整。

我並不會完全覺得騎士已經出局了，但是樓主這樣想就太不現實了，而且對於球隊的問題有些以偏概全。

[–][CHI] Ben Gordonsargo13 40 指標 1 天前*

Didn"t you see that golden state beat the best defensive team in the league by double digits when their best shooters shot 20% from behind the arc?

難道你們沒有看到勇士前幾天剛剛以2位數的分差擊敗了聯盟中防守最好的球隊嗎（爵士），而且是在自己最好的射手三分命中率只有20%的情況下做到的。

[–]RaptorsGetLowwweee 8 指標 1 天前

Third best, but your point is valid

爵士的防守是第三棒的，但是你的觀點很有效。

[–]Letronika 24 指標 1 天前

they also won by playing ISO ball with KD and had 17 assists as a result. Insane.

勇士同時也是讓KD進行單打贏得的比賽，但是最終全隊一共有17個助攻。太可怕了。

[–][CHI] Ben Gordonsargo13 13 指標 1 天前

They were an amazing team already and now finding different ways to snatch games. Wow

他們已經是一支非常出色的球隊了，現在只是尋找著不同的方式去終結比賽，哇。

[–]Letronika 12 指標 1 天前

Tonight"s game was definitely interesting..and this is the biggest reason why I think the warriors are the favorite in the finals. They can beat you in so many different ways.

那晚對陣爵士的比賽絕對是非常有趣的...而且這也是我認為勇士是最有可能奪冠的最大原因。他們能用太多不同的方式去擊敗你。

[–]Celticsseans696 28 指標 1 天前

lol the funny thing is that the best defensive team is also the warriors, damn the league is fucked

哈哈哈，搞笑的是聯盟中防守第一的球隊還是勇士，見鬼這個聯盟真的藥丸。

[–]Celticseceuiuc 13 指標 1 天前

I don"t see how the Cavs can stop the Warriors offense. It"s proven to be deadly even if parts of it aren"t fully operational. Meanwhile, the Warriors also have a legit defense that can likely shut down the Cavs role players. It would require Kyrie and Love to step up along with LeBron to even have a chance at victory.

我不認為騎士能夠阻擋勇士的進攻，勇士已經證明了就算陣容中的一部分無法發揮正常的水平，他們仍然非常致命。同時，勇士還有非常出色的防守，他們能夠鎖死騎士的角色球員們，最終騎士需要歐文和樂福同勒布朗一起站出來，才有一絲機會去贏得比賽。

[–]NBAlarrynancejr 8 指標 1 天前

People are idiots. There"s a reason they play the games

球迷都石樂至，所以球員們才是上場打球的人。

[–]Warriorsafkescape 16 指標 1 天前

GSW has the point guard, shooting guard, and power forward advantage. Lebron is a better player than KD but in the context of a series it"s not like Lebron will just completely destroy KD every game. TT is a problem for the Warriors but KD and javale have really helped the rebounding problem. Overall GSW is both the better defensive team and offensive team. GSW should be favored but I don"t see it being a sweep. I"d imagine Lebron could put up 37 7 7 every game vs the warriors but I dont see the other cavs players contributing enougb to win the series. Im biased tho.

勇蜜：勇士在PG，SG和PF上都有優勢。勒布朗確實是個比KD出色的球員，但是在系列賽的背景下，他不可能每場比賽都徹底摧毀KD。TT對於勇士來說會是個麻煩，但是KD和麥基能夠非常好的幫助解決籃板問題。總體上勇士在進攻端和防守端都更加出色，勇士是被看好的那一方，但是我不認為他會橫掃騎士。我能想像到勒布朗對陣勇士時每場都砍下37+7+7這樣的數據，但是我不認為騎士其他的球員能夠在系列賽中做出足夠的貢獻。儘管我有些偏見。

[–]Trail BlazersHank_Hill_Here 9 指標 1 天前

See, the problem with Lebron is that there is only one of him.

懂了吧，勒布朗的問題在於，球隊中只有一個勒布朗。

[–]Cavalierspreserved_fish 3 指標 1 天前

I don"t think a Cavs win is out of the question, but everyone has to show up every game. They can"t afford a performance like KLove"s last year. With the addition of KD, you guys have a little more room to be sloppy, for someone to have an off night.

騎蜜：我不認為騎士完全沒有機會，但是每個人在比賽中都必須要站出來。他們無法再承受樂福像去年那樣的表現。在勇士擁有了KD後，我們便再沒有犯錯誤的空間了，更不用說某個球員整個晚上都啞火了。

[–]Celticseceuiuc 12 指標 1 天前

I don"t see how the Cavs can stop the Warriors offense. It"s proven to be deadly even if parts of it aren"t fully operational. Meanwhile, the Warriors also have a legit defense that can likely shut down the Cavs role players. It would require Kyrie and Love to step up along with LeBron to even have a chance at victory.

我不覺得騎士能防下勇士的進攻。 事實已經證明了，勇士的進攻是致命的，就算是某些部件沒有完全運作的情況下也是如此。 同時，勇士也有足夠好的防守來防住騎士的角色球員。騎士必須得有歐文和樂福和勒布朗同時發揮才能有機會贏。

[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesmr_antman85 4 指標 1 天前

The only chance they have is because they have LeBron. This Warriors team is loaded and a team with LeBron is the only player who can beat them. It"s just facts.

騎士唯一的機會就是因為他們有勒布朗。 勇士天賦溢出，而有勒布朗的球隊擁有唯一能擊敗他們的球員。事實就是如此。

[–][SAC] Chris Webberskings90 9 指標 1 天前

I think the warriors take it 5. Too much firepower for a very shakey defense. LeBron is great, but this warriors team is at a different level in terms of talent.

我覺得勇士會在5場內解決戰鬥。對於騎士不穩定的防守來說勇士的火力太強大了。 勒布朗很偉大，但是勇士整個球隊就天賦層面來說已經處於完全不同的級別了。

[–]Regismarkv 7 指標 1 天前

he does have a chance but he would have to beat (on paper) the best team of all time.

勒布朗確實有機會，但他必須要擊敗歷史上（紙面上）實力最強的隊伍。

[–]BotSimulator 7 指標 1 天前

Warriors are the best defensive team and offensive team. Draymond is a better shooter, they have KD now, Javale and Zaza are perfect role players for a team full of fucking snipers. The Cavs have no shot because they won"t be able to hide Kevin Love on defense.

勇士的進攻和防守都是最強的。 追夢的投射也變得更好了，而且現在還有了杜蘭特， 麥基扎扎都是完美的角色球員，這陣容尼瑪到處都是狙擊手。 騎士沒有機會， 因為他們沒法在防守端為樂福擦屁股。

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