真流氓無雙！喬丹90年季後賽前兩輪場均40+7+7+3搶斷，真實命中率61.2%

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Michael Jordan through the first 2 rounds in the 1990 playoffs: 40.2ppg/7.2reb/7.2ast/3.3stl on 61.2 TS% (self.nba)

喬丹在1990年季後賽前兩輪里的表現：場均40.2分/7.2籃板/7.2助攻/3.3搶斷，同時真實命中率達到了61.2%。

He only scored less than 36pts in a game ONCE in those 9 games. 4 of those 9 games were 40pt games, including a 49pt game in a loss to Philly, in which Charles Barkley put up 34pts/20reb/8ast. Talk about a wild playoffs

在那9場比賽中，只有一場比賽喬丹的得分低於36分，另外其中有4場比賽喬丹都得到了40+，包括一場儘管他拿到了49分但是仍然輸給76人的比賽，那場比賽中巴克利的數據則為34分/20籃板/8助攻。真的是狂野的季後賽。

[–]Ardhillon 672 指標 21小時前

34/20/8 damn Barkley was a baller.

34/20/8，見鬼巴克利真的強啊。

[–]Wizards BandwagonslshGAHH 58 指標 1 天前

Looked it up and he had 10 offensive boards. What the fuck, 50% of his rebounds were offensive.

去查了一下具體數據，巴克利那場比賽居然搶下了10個進攻籃板，這特么是什麼鬼，他搶的總籃板中一半都是進攻籃板。

[–]this_place_stinks 62 指標 1 天前

Typical Chuck, always being offensive

典型的巴克利式數據，總是充滿攻擊性。

[–][WAS] John Walllivefreeordont 170 指標 20小時前

Put up 27/14/4 in the 93 playoff run. Comparatively Shaq put up 30/15/3 in 2001. So yeah Chuck was a beast doing that shit at 6"5

巴克利在93年的季後賽里場均砍下27/14/4，相比於2001年奧尼爾的場均30/15/3，顯然巴克利就是頭野獸，能在6尺5的身高下拿到這些不可思議的數據。

[–][SAS] Tim DuncanHeelincal 81 指標 16小時前

Chuck would have a shitton of rings if he had the surrounding cast of Shaq.

如果巴克利有奧尼爾那樣的隊友的話，他會拿到一大堆總冠軍戒指的。

[–]Cavaliersbroken_towel 35 指標 16小時前

Jordan might have even had fewer.

那樣的話喬丹可能就沒有現在這麼多戒指了。

[–][BOS] Larry Birdimlarrybird 27 指標 15小時前

Give Chuck as good a supporting cast as Jordan in 1993 and Chuck probably wins it. It was 4-2 and two of those Bulls wins were by a total of 4 points.

如果巴克利在93年的隊友和喬丹一樣出色的話，查克很可能就贏了。最終的比分是4-2，而其中2場公牛的勝利加起來也只贏了巴克利4分。

[–]SpursSol_Protege 227 指標 21小時前

Damn, I went back and watched Charles ball. WHat a beast, you could never tell with him always on tv chugging donuts and shit.

見鬼，我回去翻了翻巴克利的錄像，真的是一頭猛獸，你真的想像不出現在他居然整天就在電視上大嚼甜甜圈，並滿嘴跑火車。

[–]Bullscompetitive_integrit 89 指標 17小時前

Don"t forget when Jordan averaged 40ppg on 56% shooting in a full finals series

別忘了喬丹曾經在一整輪總決賽中場均40分，投籃命中率56%。

[–]Sunsjustind2473 26 指標 15小時前

Don"t remind me

太陽蜜：別提起我的傷心往事。

[–]Bullscompetitive_integrit 61 指標 15小時前

Don"t remind you of what? When Michael Jordan threepeated to destroy Charles Barkley and the Sun"s dreams by averaging 41/8.5/6.3/1.7/.7 across 6 games in the NBA Finals? Ok I won"t do that

提起你什麼傷心往事？你是說喬丹三連冠時在總決賽里場均41/8.5/6.3/1.7/.7並打碎了巴克利和太陽的夢想嗎？好吧，我不會提這個了。

[–]Jazz Bandwagonuppity_chucklehead 75 指標 21小時前

I think he has some real potential, this Jordan kid

我認為他真的有著很大的潛力，這個叫喬丹的孩子。

[–]Bucksagecapp 18 指標 20小時前

He"s an example of somebody who』s done an amazing job and is getting recognized more and more, I notice.

我發現喬丹就是那種先完成了非常偉大的事業，然後慢慢地越來越被人們發現並認可的典型。

[–]Warriors Bandwagonbjankles 60 指標 20小時前

It"s like the basketball law of gravity that there is always a more impressive Jordan stat.

這就好像是籃球界里的萬有引力定律一樣——總會有一個更出色的關於喬丹的數據。

[–]UncleWittgenstein_v3 11 指標 14小時前

Then what is the Wilt law? The first law of Wiltodynamics is that every record you can think of Wilt did first.

那麼張伯倫法則怎麼樣？張伯倫第一定律便是：不管你能想到什麼記錄，張伯倫都已經先做到過了。

[–]h1ghh0rse 47 指標 19小時前

How the hell do you average 3 steals a game over a 6+ game stretch? Wow

你怎麼能夠在6場以上的比賽里場均3個搶斷的？哇。

[–]SpursDinoDuncan[S] 68 指標 18小時前

He actually did it over 15 games!

實際上喬丹在超過15場的比賽里都做到了這一點。

[–]Wizards BandwagonB-i-s-m-a-r-k 2 指標 11小時前

that"s not possible

這簡直不可能。

[–]NBAsergeantkh2 61 指標 18小時前

he avged atleast 2.7 steals per game for 6 years lol

在超過6年的時間裡喬丹場均都至少拿下2.7次搶斷，哈哈哈。

[–]BullsSawgon 54 指標 16小時前

Because he"s the fucking GOAT.

因為他是史上最偉大的球員。

[–]Warriors Bandwagonsurvivaltactics 346 指標 21小時前

Jordan > LeBron

喬丹>勒布朗

[–]Wizards BandwagonIncognitohero11 208 指標 21小時前

This is correct.

這是對的。

[–]HeatSoFloFoSho 110 指標 21小時前

Objectively. Even LeBron says so. Not sure why people fight it when even LeBron admits he"s chasing the guy. He"s never said he has caught him yet. Lol

很客觀的評價，就算勒布朗自己也是這麼說的。不知道為什麼當勒布朗自己都說他在追逐喬丹時，人們還會為此而爭辯。勒布朗從來沒說過自己已經追上喬丹了，哈哈。

[–]76ersMoistNips007 13 指標 20小時前

People are saying that they think Lebron may be a better player than MJ which when looking at their peaks a debate could be made, but I don"t think anyone can deny that Lebron has a lot of work to do to catch Jordan legacy wise and catch his spot as the greatest ever. For instance, many would argue that Shaq was the greatest ever prime wise but he faded quickly and didn"t have the body of work to be the best ever

人們會說他們認為勒布朗是比喬丹更出色的球員，如果單單看他們巔峰時期的表現的話，你是可以這樣認為的，但是勒布朗想要趕上喬丹並成為歷史第一人的話，他需要做的事情還有很多，我不認為任何人會否認這一點。打個比方，很多人都會說巔峰的沙克是歷史上最強的球員，但是他下滑的太快了，所以並沒有完成使他成為歷史第一人所需的那些成就。

[–]76ersMoistNips007 15 指標 20小時前

I don"t think any player ever has had as much of an impact and can flat out carry a team better than Lebron. Peak wise I"d say this was around 2012-13. Then again an argument for Shaq could be made here as well with Jordan having the third highest peak ever

我不認為有任何球員能像勒布朗這樣在場上擁有如此大的作用，並強行去carry一支球隊。談巔峰的話，我會說勒布朗的巔峰是在2012-13這段時間。同時你也可以說沙克的巔峰是歷史第二的，然後把喬丹的巔峰放在歷史第三。

[–]Warriorshabanatrain 18 指標 20小時前

Yeah 2012-13 was definitely his peak season, obviously Wilts peak is right up there too, but I definitely think Jordans 87-88 season, and 90-91 season were better than Lebrons 12-13. In terms of individual performance and impact on the team. Shaq might be second, third, fourth or fifth. The list is Michael, Lebron, Wilt, Shaq, Kareem for highest peak ever, guess it"s up to you how to order them

是的，2012-13確實是勒布朗的巔峰賽季，顯然張伯倫的巔峰在這裡也應該有一席之地，但是考慮到個人表現和對球隊的影響，我絕對認為喬丹的87-88賽季，以及90-91賽季要比勒布朗的12-13賽季更強。沙克的巔峰也許排在第二，第三，第四或者第五吧。我覺得史上巔峰最強的名單是：喬丹，勒布朗，張伯倫，沙克，賈巴爾，至於如何排序則取決於不同的人了吧。

[–]SpursATXBeermaker 39 指標 19小時前

Everybody comparing offensive stats to debate who the GOAT is, somehow forgetting that Jordan was one of the greatest defensive players to ever play the game. 9x all defensive first team. DPoY. 3rd all time in career steals, both total and per game. One of only 7 players ever to average over 3 steals per game in a season.

I mean, LeBron is no slouch on defense. But Jordan has him beat on that end of the court by miles.

每個人在討論最偉大的球員時都只比較進攻端的數據，從而忘記了喬丹也是歷史上最出色的防守球員之一。9次防守一陣，DPOY，生涯場均搶斷和總搶斷都為歷史第3，歷史上唯一7名能夠單賽季場均3次以上搶斷的球員之一。

我的意思是，勒布朗在防守端並不差，但是喬丹在防守端把他甩下了不止一點點。

[–]PoohBearHoneyPot 18 指標 18小時前

I"m not saying you"re wrong, but I think one point that LeBron has in his favor that you didn"t mention is that he can effectively guard positions 1 to 4. I don"t think MJ could match up consistently against a 4.

我並不是說你的觀點是錯的，但是我認為勒布朗有一項更出色的地方你沒有提到，那就是他能夠有效的從1號位防到4號位，我不認為喬丹能夠持久的去防守4號位。

[–]SpursATXBeermaker 35 指標 18小時前*

That"s a fair point. But that"s doesn"t make him a better defender, just a bit more versatile. I mean, Magic could guard 1-5, still wasn"t a better defender than Jordan, though.

這確實很不錯，但是也並不能讓勒布朗成為一個比喬丹更強的防守者，只能勒布朗更全面。我的意思是，魔術師也能從1號位防到5號位，但是他也不是個比喬丹更出色的防守者。

[–]Timberwolvesgiannissim 12 指標 19小時前

I didn"t watch the NBA then,( I didn"t exist), but according to my dad, jordan was already the goat when he did the threepeat, which I think was a bit younger than LeBron is right now.

我當時還沒有看NBA（當時我都沒有出生），但是根據我爸爸的說法，在喬丹第一個三連冠時，他就已經被認為是歷史上最偉大的球員了，我認為當時他比現在的勒布朗還要年輕一點。

[–]Lakers Bandwagonlakerswiz 3 指標 21小時前

And it"s still a big gap. A big gap.

所以他倆之間仍然存在著非常大的鴻溝，非常大。

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