庫里比杜蘭特影響更大,吸引了更多防守,他引領了一個新的時代?
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庫里比杜蘭特影響更大,吸引了更多防守,他引領了一個新的時代?
"The Warriors outscored their opponents by 3.1 points per 100 possessions when Durant was playing and Curry was not; that number jumped to 16.1 points per 100 possessions with Curry on the court and Durant on the sidelines."Analysis (fivethirtyeight.com)
「當杜蘭特在場而庫里休息時,勇士每百回合比對手多得3.1分;而當庫里上場,杜蘭特休息時,這一差距則跳躍到了16.1分。」分析表明。
[–]RaptorsJDrakeR 183 指標 20小時前
The reason Curry is the best PG in the league is because he doesn"t mind being the decoy to draw defenses away in order to make his teammates better. The fact that he"s also an elite ball handler and playmaker makes it almost unfair
庫里是聯盟里最好控衛的原因便是他不在意在進攻端成為對手的誘餌,從而吸引防守讓隊友們變得更好。而他同時也是一名頂尖持球手和組織者的事實則讓這一切幾乎顯得不公平。
[–]NetsKashMoney941 81 指標 19小時前
Yea, crazy that some see his relatively low assist numbers (as if 7 assists for a dude that shoots as well and plays off ball as much as him is something to scoff at) and think he"s not as good a playmaker as other dudes that average 9-10+ assists. But honestly, he is the epitome of an unselfish playmaker in that he doesn"t even need to touch the ball on any possession to get a wide open look for his teammates. I don"t think any other dude in history has created as many baskets for his team that he didnt get box score credit for as Curry has. Even when you account for hockey assists (which nba.com tracks and he has been at the top of the league), that doesnt take into account how many times a simple cut or screen from him attracts 2-3 defenders and leaves a teammate wide open for a score. The stats are clear, with his teammates this season shooting an average of 8.3% worse without him on the floor, with the next biggest similar impact being LeBron at less than half of that (3.9%).
Is it the traditional type of playmaking that we"ve always expected from a PG? No, but it clearly is just as much, if not more, effective than the other methods.
是的,很瘋狂的一件事就是一些人看到庫里相對較低的助攻數(好像場均7個助攻對於像他這樣投籃如此出色,無球打得如此之多的球員來說是值得嘲笑的一樣)就認為他的組織能力沒有其他那些場均9-10個助攻的球員強。但是事實上庫里是無私組織者的典範,他甚至都不需要在任何回合里碰球就能讓隊友得到大空位。我不認為歷史上有任何其他球員像庫里這樣為自己的隊友創造了如此多的得分機會,卻沒有得到數據統計表的認可。就算你加上冰球助攻(即間接助攻,nba.com統計了這一數據,庫里為聯盟第一),也不能完全體現庫里的作用,他一個簡單的切入或是掩護就能吸引2-3名防守者,然後讓其他一名隊友得到大空位的得分機會。下面這項數據顯示的非常清楚,這賽季當庫里不在場時,隊友們的平均命中率下降了8.3%,而這一影響力排名第二的勒布朗只有庫里的一半還不到(3.9%)。
請問這是傳統意義上我們指望控衛打出的組織嗎?並不是,但是顯然它和其他的方式一樣有效,如果沒有超過它們的話。
[–][CLE] Mark PriceWitOfTheIrish 23 指標 16小時前
Advanced stats will always show his impact. Just give it a while for some bench players to rotate out of GSW"s roster, and watch their efficiency drop off a cliff without the space and open looks.
高階數據總是會顯示出庫里的影響,就看看當一些板凳球員離開勇士的陣容,沒有那些空間和空位後,過一段時間後他們的效率是如何像過山車一般下跌的吧。
[–][GSW] Ian Clarkoscarony 19 指標 15小時前
Brandon Rush this year is the perfect example
今年的布蘭登-拉什便是典型的例子。
[–]BucksHard4Favra 1442 指標 22小時前
Curry"s gravity is real. It"s obvious how much he opens the game up for everyone else.
Durant was a deserving FMVP but I think GSW suffer way more if they lose Curry as opposed to Durant.
庫里對防守的吸引力真不是開玩笑的,顯然他讓其他每個球員的比賽都變得更容易了。
杜蘭特值得這座FMVP,但是我認為相比與杜蘭特,失去庫里會讓勇士受到大得多的傷害。
[–][GSW] Klay Thompsonkashmoney55 44 指標 19小時前
One of the best examples of Curry gravity was in game 1. The Cavs just let KD walk to the basket a few times, because they were so scared of Curry at the 3 point line. That is crazy.
庫里對防守的吸引力最好的例子便是總決賽的G1,騎士有好幾次就直接放任杜蘭特殺向籃下了,因為他們太害怕站在三分線外的庫里了。這非常瘋狂。
[–]WarriorsErneh 680 指標 22小時前
Curry is our most valuable offensive player. The cavs have been somewhat good "curry stoppers" over the past few years and yet again, this year curry got the most attention in terms of their defensive gameplan. Kd capitalized on this.
勇士球迷:庫里是我們在進攻端最有價值的球員,騎士在過去幾年中都扮演了非常好的「庫里阻擋者」角色,而且今年也是同樣,庫里在他們的防守計劃中得到了最大的關注。杜蘭特則利用了這一點。
[–]Warriorsorchid_breeder 341 指標 21小時前
They"re curry stoppers because they literally face guard him starting at half court. It allows the Warriors to play 4-3 for a lot of their possessions.
騎士成為庫里阻擋者的原因便是他們幾乎從半場開始就貼臉夾擊防守他了,這也讓勇士在很多的回合里能夠形成4-3的局面。
[–]SpursShadrack579 61 指標 20小時前
It"s what people on this sub were saying when the Warriors signed KD, and at the start of the season: Golden State became a slightly worse regular season team, but a much better playoff team.
這就是當勇士簽下杜蘭特,在賽季剛開始時這個論壇里大多數人說的事情:勇士變成了一支稍微弱一點的常規賽球隊,卻成為了一支強得多的季後賽球隊。
[–]SpursHSTmjr 36 指標 20小時前
Curry has a primeShaq-like effect of changing how the defenses contort to guard him. The spacing is outrageous for the other players on the court
庫里就像巔峰沙克那樣能夠改變對手的防守計劃,迫使著對方去限制他,場上其他球員得到的空間是不可思議的。
[–]Warriorsuntouchable765 145 指標 21小時前
Inb4 it"s Warriors vs Cavs again next year and KD get doubled while Curry drops 40 a game.
明年肯定還是勇士對陣騎士,如果杜蘭特被包夾的話,庫里便會砍下40分。
[–][GSW] Stephen CurryiChristiaNn 61 指標 21小時前
They"ll still keep doubling Curry. If they double KD, you not only get a 40pt Curry, but you"ll also get rest of the guys in rhythm on offense.
騎士仍然還是會包夾庫里的,如果他們包夾杜蘭特的話,你不僅僅會得到一個40分的庫里,同時你也會讓勇士其他的球員在進攻端找到節奏。
[–]BullsYcantweBfrients 178 指標 21小時前
I would love to see this. Curry raining fire is the most exciting thing to watch for me.
我會很希望看到這個,火力全開的庫里是我看到過得最振奮人心的事情。
[–]LakersTheingloriousak2 280 指標 22小時前
Kd is the goat role player
杜蘭特是史上最偉大的角色球員。
[–]Supersonicsthundercock88 176 指標 22小時前
in Simmons" recent pod with him he clearly admits that he wanted to see what it was like to only be guarded by one guy, basically he was tired of being doubled as the number one guy
在西蒙斯最近的播客節目中杜蘭特顯然承認了他想看看被一個人單防究竟是一種什麼樣的體驗,基本上他已經厭倦了作為第一選擇被包夾的待遇。
[–]CavaliersSmokinADoobs 95 指標 21小時前
It just clicked with me that KD (really any all-time great) has been getting doubled for probably their entire basketball career...
這也剛剛提醒了我,KD(任何史上偉大的球員)可能在他們整個職業生涯中都在被包夾。
[–]Warriors BandwagonQaanol 71 指標 19小時前
…and still scores 30 on the regular.
...但是他仍然能日常砍下30分。
[–]NBAkkrko 41 指標 19小時前
65% of his field goals in the finals were assisted while Steph has 70% of his unassisted. Shows who"s the real system player.
杜蘭特總決賽里65%的得分都是受助的,同時庫里70%的得分則是非受助的。這顯示了誰才是真正的體系球員。
[–]Knickszxnith 722 指標 22小時前
Fuck me I"m just gonna say it. Curry is easily one of the most influential players in all of NBA history. Dude ushered in an era of basketball that was on its way but no one saw it coming like this. Yeah we were already "spacing" better and shooting more 3s but not off-the-dribble pulling up from outta space. The fucking Oracle of Oracle, prophet of the triple.
見鬼,但是我就是想說這個,庫里很顯然是NBA歷史上最具影響力的球員之一。這傢伙引領了一個新的籃球時代,在朝著自己的方式向前,但是之前沒有任何人預料過程會是這樣。是的,現在場上的「空間感」已經變得更好,而且大家也出手了更多的三分,但是並不是像庫里這樣運球後從外太空拔起投籃。他是甲骨文中的長老,三分球的先知。
[–]KnicksRunningForIt 101 指標 21小時前
I know a lot of people are appreciating the game now, but I can"t wait until 15-20 years from now, looking back at how big of a moment the past few year have been for the NBA.
我知道許多人都在讚美現在的比賽方式,但是我等不及在15-20年後,再回首看看這過去幾年對於NBA的發展究竟產生了多麼巨大的影響。


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