波爾津吉斯比喬治和巴特勒更有價值？只能三選一你最想得到誰？

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波爾津吉斯比喬治和巴特勒更有價值？只能三選一你最想得到誰？

[McIntyre] If you"re ranking players on the trade block, Porzingis is above Jimmy Butler & Paul George. Younger, cheaper, not even close to his peak (twitter.com)

如果你在給交易市場上的球員排序，請把波爾津吉斯放在吉米-巴特勒和保羅-喬治前面。更年輕，合同更小，甚至還遠遠未到巔峰期。

[–][CLE] Zydrunas IlgauskasAPF429 883 指標 22小時前

Imagine hitting on a draft pick like Kristpas and then being like "nah we should trade him and try to hit on another draft pick like Kristaps"

想像一下在選秀中淘到了波爾津吉斯這樣的寶，然後感覺就像「不，我們應該交易了他，然後試試再淘到一個他這樣的新秀」。

[–]Knicks Bandwagonnirvanamania 325 指標 20小時前

"hold my peyote" -phil obviously

「葯不能停」 - 明顯出自菲爾-傑克遜。

[–]RaptorsUnderwaterDialect 49 指標 20小時前

Unicorns are common, right?

獨角獸有什麼可稀罕的，是不？

[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingisabippityboop 1920 指標 22小時前

I just snapped at my girl for asking me what"s wrong.

Phil is literally ruining my life.

我女朋友剛剛問我出什麼事了，而我吼了她。

菲爾正在真真切切地摧毀我的人生。

[–][CLE] Kyrie IrvingBeastlyIguana 569 指標 22小時前

Phil Jackson: relationship destroyer

菲爾-傑克遜：關係撕裂者。

[–][WAS] Caron Butler360Angel90 129 指標 22小時前

Seattle is better managed than the Knicks by Phil, and they don"t even have a team.

比起尼克斯，菲爾把西雅圖管理得更好，而他們甚至連支球隊都沒有（菲爾-傑克遜曾在2013年對將國王搬遷至西雅圖的運作表示過興趣）。

[–]Knicks BandwagonLittleMarco 81 指標 22小時前

back up the truck Ainge.

準備開門收貨了，安吉。

[–]CelticsMJaylen 4 指標 22小時前

You"d actually trade him for anything we have?

你真的能靠我們手中擁有的任何東西來換到他么？

[–]Knicks BandwagonLittleMarco 16 指標 21小時前

Ya, picks.

當然，選秀權唄。

[–]Wizardstheallenjohan 220 指標 22小時前

Unless you"re in a win now mode.

優先考慮波神，除非你正處於贏在當下模式。

[–]Bullsuppity_chucklehead 106 指標 22小時前

Depends on the team he"s going to. The Cavs would probably rather have PG or Butler if the rest of the team stays intact.

得看他要去哪支球隊。騎士可能更想要喬治或者巴特勒，如果其餘隊伍保持當前陣容。

[–]RaptorsKingG_corporation 119 指標 22小時前

Ya I agree, but even then he can still help someone win now still as a 3rd or 4th option

Dude averaged 18/8 in his 2nd year with good rim protection, gonna get even better for his 3rd year

是的我同意，但即使是支現在就想贏球的球隊，波爾津吉斯也能立馬成為球隊的第三或第四號選擇。

這傢伙可是在生涯第二年就拿到18+8，外加優秀的護框能力，第三年還會變得更棒。

[–]Raptors BandwagonHouston_sucks 44 指標 20小時前

He had a lot of bad games though, worrying amount of bad games actually. I"m little surprised there were no threads popping up how underwhelming KP was considering expectations after year 1.

但是他還是有很多表現糟糕的比賽，事實上場次之多已經到了令人擔心的程度。就波爾津吉斯在生涯第一年結束得到的期望滿滿來看，我有點小驚訝沒有人跳出來討論他的第二年是有多低於預期。

[–]LakersDarkSoulsDarius 56 指標 20小時前

Might be because of random ass offense(triangle is great if coached by Phil, but he"s like forcing it on both his coach and team), playing without literally a single playmaker(idk how a team has zero), and just the general dysfunction of the organization.

I mean Towns was worryingly bad on defense, but I still expect him to turn into a great defender. Porzingis has all the tools and ability, but you need the proper support and coaching.

可能是因為進攻XJBD（菲爾執教下的三角進攻是偉大的，但他好像只是在強迫他的教練組和球隊這麼打球），隊里連一個組織核心都沒有（我不知道他們是怎麼做到的），以及整個球隊千瘡百孔的運轉。

我是說唐斯也在防守端令人擔憂，但我仍然期待他能夠成為一名偉大的防守者。波爾津吉斯具備一切必需的條件和能力，但是你也得給他適當的支持與執教方式。

[–]Charlotte HornetsJagdgeschwader 4 指標 16小時前

I honestly don"t have a very high opinion of the triangle. It"s great if you Kobe/Shaq/Jordan/Pippen, but so in anything. What success has the triangle outside of those players? And don"t you think there is a reason no other teams run it it?

我對三角進攻實在沒有太高的敬意。如果你有科比/鯊魚/喬丹/皮蓬，那它運轉完美，但其他情形就不一定了。脫離開這些球員，三角進攻取得了什麼成功？而且你不覺得其他球隊不採用三角進攻是有原因的么？

[–]CelticsPATRlOTS 387 指標 22小時前

Young and cheap, just how Danny likes em.

年輕又便宜，丹尼-安吉會愛死他的。

[–]kratomkrap 37 指標 22小時前

If I"m Boston I would be trying to trade for Porzingis and Butler and they probably still have enough to sign Gordon

如果我是凱爾特人管理層，我會試圖交易得到波爾津吉斯和巴特勒，這之後他們大概還有足夠的空間簽下戈登-海沃德。

[–]Celticsblackblots-rorschach 19 指標 20小時前

Don"t think they can trade for both. Porzingis has to be the priority though

別指望他們能把兩人都交易到手。但波爾津吉斯必須被列到優先事項。

[–]coreyp0123 29 指標 21小時前

He hasn"t even begun to peak

這傢伙的巔峰期還沒開始啊。

[–]kratomkrap 15 指標 19小時前

No I think Butler is because if you"re trading picks you"re in win now mode and Butler would be the better player right now but I think Porzingis is a much bigger upgrade over Amir than Butler is over Avery. Actually trading for Porzingis might be better because then you still have cap space to sign Gordon

不，我覺得巴特勒排序更靠前，因為如果你送出選秀權，那你就處於贏在當下模式，而巴特勒會是目前更好的球員。但我覺得波爾津吉斯之於埃米爾-約翰遜比起巴特勒之於埃弗里-布拉德利是個更大幅的升級。事實上交易來波爾津吉斯可能會更好，因為這之後你仍然有薪資空間去簽約戈登-海沃德。

[–]WarriorsAssumptionBulltron 60 指標 21小時前

Why is Porzingis on the trade block? I don"t understand this at all. What possible reason could Phil have for wanting to trade a 21 year old rising star that he JUST DRAFTED? Plus NY LOVES Porzingis. Not to mention, anytime that anyone criticizes Phil"s tenure in NY, someone inevitably responds with "Well, he DID draft Porzingis." And now this Zen-humping troglodyte Triangle-fucker wants to TRADE HIM? What are you gonna do, rebuild around another 21 year old prospect? Build around Carmelo fucking Anthony?? I don"t fucking get it.

為啥波爾津吉斯要被擺上貨架？我完全不理解這一切。禪師到底有什麼理由，讓他去把自己剛剛選中的21歲希望之星交易走？更別提一旦有人批評菲爾在紐約的日子，就一定會有人蹦出來回應「好吧，至少他選中了波爾津吉斯。」然後現在這個抱著禪宗和三角進攻不放的老瘋子居然想交易他？下一步你打算怎麼做，圍繞另一個21歲的傢伙重建？圍繞卡梅羅-他么的-安東尼重建？我想破頭也不理解。

[–]Warriorslitomungee 17 指標 20小時前

Because Knicks gon Knick

因為這就是尼克斯。

[–]RaptorsFlameOfWar 34 指標 22小時前

The Knicks are gauging Prozingis" trade value. He"s not on the trade block for God"s sake.

尼克斯正在仔細衡量波爾津吉斯的交易價值。媽媽咪呀他當然不在交易貨架上。

[–][GSW] Andre Iguodalamathmage 18 指標 19小時前

Why even bother? Kristaps" trade value is high, that"s a no-brainer, because his real value is high--Phil"s unlikely to fleece anyone. All he gets is the continued drip-drip-drip of undermined player loyalty.

為啥要在這事上操碎了心？波爾津吉斯的交易價值很高，這用腳都能想出來，因為他的真實價值很高——菲爾大概薅不到任何人的羊毛。他唯一得到的只是球員日漸被侵蝕的忠心。

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