美球迷熱議內內評甜瓜言論：安東尼太自私，本可成為聯盟第一人

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美球迷熱議內內評甜瓜言論：安東尼太自私，本可成為聯盟第一人

Nene on Carmelo - "He could"ve been the best in the league, but he"s too selfish" (self.nba)

內內對安東尼的看法——「他本能夠成為聯盟里最棒的球員，但是他太自私了」

為了填滿總決賽之前的這段空隙，我最近在隨意的瀏覽一些籃球相關的視頻，然後我偶然看到了一個巴西的頻道對內內做的採訪（2016年7月份上傳的），在採訪的某一節里他們談到了一些安東尼。對我來說，看到一個曾經的隊友對此誠實的談論球隊里的球星是件很有意思的事情。

主持人：那麼關於這個傢伙，告訴我一些關於他的事情吧，卡梅隆-安東尼，我見過的最強得分手之一。

內內：老哥，談安東尼啊...他本可以成為聯盟里最好的球員，他使用自己身體的方式，跳投的準確度，以及運球和投籃方式的多樣性，再加上他在低位的基本功...

主持人：他在低位的表現令人難以置信，那招6英寸的試探步是聯盟里最棒的...

內內：是的，在低位他就是單純的最棒的球員，但是他太自私了，他無法讓隊友們變得更好，如果他做到了這一點，他就能夠成為聯盟里最好的球員。而且，如果他防守的話...因為他知道怎麼去防守，我和他在一起打了8年球，我了解他...

另外內內也提到了在和他交過手或是做過隊友的球員中，他心中的超級球隊應該是：庫里，科比，杜蘭特，鄧肯和沙克。

後來他正準備去說板凳球員的，然而說出吉諾比利後話題便轉移到了斯科拉身上，以及內內認為斯科拉是如何的出色，同時又是如何的被極大的低估。

我知道這些話里並沒有關於安東尼的新東西，基本就是shh里人們這些年來一直說的東西（額其實就算他不單打那麼多，多打團隊籃球，並去防守，我也不認為他會成為最棒的球員，但是那樣的話顯然他能夠給予自己一個更好的爭奪總冠軍的機會，因為他在進攻端是如此的有天賦），但是我仍然覺得從一個8年的老隊友口中說出來這些事情，還是很有意思的。

So I was watching some random basketball videos to fill the void until the finals and I came across this brazilian channel that had an interview with Nene (posted on July, 2016) and at some point they talked a little bit about Melo, it felt interesting to me seeing a teammate being so honest about a star like he did.

IT: So there"s this guy, tell me a little bit about him, Carmelo Anthony, one of the best scorers i"ve ever seen.

Nene: Carmelo man... He"s a guy who could"ve been the best player in the league, the way he uses his body, the accuracy on his shots, the variation of dribbles and shots that he has, and his low post fundamentals...

IT: And he"s insane on the post, his 6 inch jab step is the best in the league...

Nene: Yeah he is simply the best down there, but is just too selfish, he can"t make his teammates better, if he did that he could"ve been the best in the league. Oh, and if he played defense... Because he knows how to guard people, i played with him for 8 years, so i know...

He also says his superteam of players he played with/against would be: Curry Kobe KD TD Shaq

He was going to name the bench too but only got to Manu then the conversation kinda drifted away to Luis Scola and how he thinks he"s really really good and super underrated.

Now I know there"s nothing really new about Melo here, pretty much what people on this sub has been saying for years (eeeh I don"t think he would be the best even if he didn"t ISO so much and played more team ball and D, but for sure he could"ve given himself much better chances at a ring this way, because he really is gifted offensively) but I still felt it was interesting coming from an 8yr teammate.

[–]darthbron_jrspliff 57 指標 22小時前

I miss 2013-2014

我懷念2013-14賽季。

[–]WestreDefinition_ 414 指標 1 天前

Losta Could"ve. Could"ve passed more, defended more, made the playoffs this season.

安東尼本能夠達成很多成就，本能夠更多的去傳球，去防守，以及在今年打進季後賽。

[–]RocketsWillyTanner 476 指標 1 天前

Could"ve sacrificed the extra year of his contract and signed with Knicks in free agency so they didn"t have to gut themselves to trade for him and given himself a better chance at competing as a Knick

他本能夠犧牲自己合同的最後一年，並作為自由球員加入尼克斯，這樣尼克斯就不用為了交易得到他而把本來的球隊拆的七零八落，從而也能讓他作為尼克斯的一員去更好的競爭。

[–]Wizards BandwagonARogueOne 280 指標 1 天前

I think Melo fucked up in the summer of "06. The guy signed a full 5 year extension with the Nuggets, while LeBron, Wade and Bosh all signed 3 year extensions with the Cavaliers, Heat and Raptors, respectively.

He could have been a FA in 2010 like them, and gone straight to the Knicks with Amare (since they had max cap space like Miami and coulda signed multiple max players).

我認為安東尼在06年的夏天就搞砸了一切，他和掘金簽了一份最長的5年續約合同，而同時勒布朗，韋德和波什都各自只和騎士，熱火以及猛龍續簽了3年。

安東尼本能夠在2010年像他們一樣成為一名自由球員，從而直接去尼克斯聯手斯塔德邁爾（因為他們像熱火一樣都有著頂薪的空間，能夠簽下多名頂薪球員）。

[–]Lakers Bandwagonrburp 307 指標 23小時前

He could have been a FA in 2010 like them, and gone straight to the Heat and won everything ever

安東尼本能夠在2010年像他們一樣成為一名自由球員，從而直接加盟熱火，贏得所有的東西。

[–]at_midknight 4 指標 17小時前

Melo probably wouldve played better all around in that situation tho. He always played better when surrounded by talent like in the olympic teams, and lebron and wade wouldve kept his ego in check so i can see him buying into the team aspect

在那種情況下也行安東尼也會打得更好，當他在夢之隊有著更好的隊友時，安東尼總是打得更加出色，而且勒布朗和韋德也能夠抑制一些他的自負，所以我能夠看出他能夠很好的融進球隊。

[–]Wizardsfabosexy 20 指標 22小時前

It has been confirmed many times that Melo was supppsed to be the 3rd member of the big 3 but he just wanted his money.

好幾次安東尼都本應該成為三巨頭中的第三個成員，但是他只想拿全屬於自己的錢，這已經被確認過很多次了。

[–]albzim[S] 112 指標 1 天前

Going to the Knicks just pretty much shows competing is not your first priority if we"re being real.

說實話，選擇去尼克斯就基本上表明，競爭已經不是你的首要目標了。

[–]RocketsWillyTanner 18 指標 1 天前

100%, even back then it was well known that Dolan was incompetent but Melo"s wifey wanted to live in NYC and Melo"s ego told him that he was good enough to overcome playing under an owner known for incompetence. Not only that, but i"m sure he was also blinded by the massive endorsement money he planned on getting by being in the NYC market as well.

百分之百正確，就算是在當時我們也都知道多蘭並不是個稱職的老闆，但是安東尼的老婆希望他住在紐約，而且梅隆的自負也告訴他自己足夠出色，能夠在這樣一位以不稱職而聞名的老闆手下打好球。不僅僅是這個，我同時也確信安東尼計劃著待在紐約便能獲得巨額的廣告贊助費用，從而被這些蒙蔽了雙眼。

[–]Bullsmonolith17 8 指標 1 天前

Or could have signed a 1 + 1 (Like LBJ did) in 2015 and signed with an actual contender instead of locking the rest of his career down with the Knicks.

或者他本應該在2015年簽下一份1+1的合同（就像勒布朗那樣），並在之後和一個真正的爭冠者簽約，而不是把自己剩餘的生涯鎖死在紐約。

[–]Wizards Bandwagonlivefreeordont 72 指標 1 天前

They would have been great in 2013 if Amar"e had literally anything left in the tank. That team with Carmelo, Kidd, Chandler, Felton, K-Mart, JR, Shump, and Novak would have been legit if Amar"e could also chip in 25 points and 8 boards

尼克斯在2013年本會非常成功，只要小斯還能夠為球隊做出一些貢獻的話。那支球隊有著安東尼，基德，錢德勒，費爾頓，肯揚-馬丁，JR-史密斯，香珀特以及諾瓦克，如果當年小斯能夠場均拿到25分8籃板這樣的數據的話，他們便是一支合理的爭冠球隊。

[–][NYK] Rasheed WallaceMrBokbagok 62 指標 21小時前

it was for prime amare. he was regularly dropping 30 point games on tim duncan, the east should have been fucking child"s play

這是對巔峰小斯的要求了，當時面對鄧肯他經常能砍下30分，來到東部本應該跟玩兒一樣。

[–]meamyee 60 指標 21小時前*

If Melo didn"t have help, it"s because Melo preferred his money and personal fame over help:

1) In order to lock in a few guaranteed million, basically forced NYK to trade its entire team for him, and even then the team had no depth.

2) Undermined and chased out Jeremy Lin, a drive and kick PG in a MDA offense that could have freed Melo for offensive sequences that weren"t jabstepsx100

3) Basically drove COTY candidate and future HOF coach MDA out of town just when the Knicks were starting to create some semblance of offensive identity because he didn"t want to buy in.

如果安東尼沒有得到足夠的幫助，那也只是相比幫助而言，他更偏愛於自己的錢和名聲：

1)為了多拿一些有保障的薪水，基本上尼克斯被迫著用一整支球隊去換他，之後球隊便沒有了深度。

2)討厭並排擠林書豪，一個在德安東尼體系下出色的突破分球控衛，本能夠在進攻端徹底解放安東尼，不讓其每回合都去用試探步單打。

3)當尼克斯在進攻端剛剛開始有些模樣時，便把當年的年度最佳教練候選人以及未來的名人堂教練德安東尼趕出了球隊，只是因為他不喜歡。

[–]RocketsWillyTanner 211 指標 1 天前

Anytime I come across a Carmelo apologist, i"m baffled.

The dude was talented but brought everything negative about his career onto himself.

He"s the reason why he never has and never will be the best player on a title team. Not Dolan, not Phil, or anybody else.

每次我看到為安東尼辯護的帖子時，便會感到不解。

他是個有天賦的球員，但是卻把生涯中所有消極的事情帶到了自己身上。

安東尼從來不是，也永遠不會是聯盟里最好球員的原因便是他自己。不是多蘭，不是菲爾-傑克遜，也不是其他任何人。

[–][BOS] Paul PierceSilktrocity 526 指標 23 小時前

Fun fact: Paul Pierce said that out of everybody he"s had to guard during his 15+ year career, Carmelo Anthony was by far the most difficult.

有趣的事實：皮爾斯曾說過，在他超過15年職業生涯防守過的所有球員中，安東尼是目前為止最難以防守的。

[–]Knickscrototype 69 指標 23小時前

A lot of players have said that. Doesn"t seem to help his teams win when it matters though.

很多球員都說過一樣的話，但是看上去安東尼並不能在關鍵時刻幫助球隊贏球。

[–]Warriorsguppyfighter 15 指標 22小時前

People also need to realize being more difficult doesn"t mean the player is a better player. It could just mean they are more annoying to guard or more physically exhausting.

人們需要意識到更加難以防守的球員並不意味著就是更好的球員，這還可以單純只是因為防守他們時更加難受，或者更加耗費體力。

[–]AnferneeMason 59 指標 21小時前

Melo was consistently one of the best clutch shooters in the league for a long time. What did you expect him to do, beat LeBron and Wade in the playoffs by averaging 60 while Amare hobbled around and Ray Felton puked up cheeseburgers?

安東尼很久以來都是聯盟里最棒的關鍵球先生了，你還指望他能做到什麼，在小斯因傷缺席，費爾頓狂啃芝士漢堡的時候場均60分擊敗季後賽里的勒布朗和韋德嗎？

[–][NYK] Amar"e Stoudemiresomeonesavetheknicks 568 指標 22小時前

Fun fact: Shane Battier said that Carmelo was easy to guard and all you had to do was stick to the scouting report and let him take his high volume shots

有趣的事實：巴蒂爾曾經說過安東尼是聯盟里最容易防守的球員，因為你只需要嚴格遵守關於他的球探報告就行了——就讓他去出手大量的跳投。

[–]gosuruss 252 指標 22小時前*

「The only time he got me was, he had the most unbelievable game,」 Battier said. 「This was like, the outlier of all outliers in terms of the numbers and analytics. He scored 50 points, and didn』t have one paint point. So, yeah. I was really feeling good about 『any long non-paint two is a good shot』 after that game, right? He scored 50 points on me, ZERO paint points.」

「唯一一次安東尼擊敗我的時候便是，他打出了一場不可思議的比賽，」巴蒂爾說。「就好像，這種表現是所有數據分析極端的極端。他得了50分，但是卻沒有1分是在禁區里得到的。所以，當然了，在那場比賽後我還是感覺很好的，因為『任何禁區外的長兩分都是可以接受的對吧』然而他卻顏射了我50分，0禁區得分。」

[–][NBA] LeBron JamesInterspaceAlien 223 指標 1 天前

realistically he was never going to be better than lebron, but he could have been in that conversation. i remember there was some controversy over lebron getting rookie of the year over him and those denver teams were tough.

現實是，他永遠不會比勒布朗出色，但是他能夠進入這個水平的討論中。我記得當年勒布朗優於安東尼獲得最佳新秀後，一些人對此還頗有微詞，而且當時的掘金非常強悍。

[–]Knicksbahamutfan64 119 指標 21小時前

It was also because Melo made the playoffs his first year.

另外一個原因也是安東尼在新秀賽季就進入了季後賽。

[–]PistonsQuinn_tEskimo 194 指標 1 天前

Being passed over by the Pistons on draft day hurt both Detroit and Carmelo equally.

安東尼在選秀上被活塞錯過而對兩者造成的傷害同樣巨大。

[–]RaptorsDeMarner 179 指標 1 天前

yea and who knows how much better they could have been with Melo and mold him into the type of player that wins

是的，誰知道增加了安東尼那支活塞會變得如何更出色，而且把他培養成一名贏球類型的球員。

[–]Bulls BandwagonxSepulcherx 37 指標 23小時前

I dunno, there"s no way he gets along with Larry Brown.

我不知道，他和拉里-布朗不可能相處得來的。

[–]76ersbayless4eva 132 指標 22小時前

ai was coached by brown. literally anyone could be molded by him. Dude is a legend

艾弗森當初就是在布朗手下打球，講道理任何人都能夠被他培養出來，他是個傳奇教練。

[–]Spursavi550m 31 指標 22小時前

If Melo was in Detroit I believe they beat the Spurs in the 2005 finals, make the 2006 Finals and perhaps beat Dallas, and beat LeBron in the 2007 ECF

如果安東尼在活塞我相信他們能夠在2005年的總決賽擊敗馬刺，並打進2006年的總決賽，也許能夠擊敗小牛，並在2007年的東決中擊敗勒布朗。

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