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沃爾成2010屆沒換隊的獨苗!科比和鄧肯也有過離隊流言,沒人不可交易

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沃爾成2010屆沒換隊的獨苗!科比和鄧肯也有過離隊流言,沒人不可交易


[Donahue] John Wall is only 2010 1st rd pick still w/ team that drafted him. (twitter.com)


約翰-沃爾是唯一一個2010年在首輪被選中仍然效力於母隊的球員。








[–]LakersJayveesac 1054 指標 1 天前


Hope he remains a Wizard for life, be all about that Harry Potter life


希望他一輩子都是一名巫師,過著哈利-波特一般的生活。


註:華盛頓奇才在一些翻譯中被譯為華盛頓巫師。

[–]Bulletsburnerfret 807 指標 23小時前


Keep this in mind, everyone who is in love with their team"s unproven young players.


那些喜歡主隊里還沒證明過自己的年輕球員的朋友們,請記住這條推特。


[–]CelticsYeezus_loves_me 467 指標 23小時前


To be fair, it"s 7 years later. That"s a hell of a long time in basketball years.

公平地說,距離2010年選秀已經過去七年了。在籃球里這真的算是很長的一段時間啊!


[–]Bulletsburnerfret 339 指標 23小時前


Which is kind of my point -- everyone loves their guys and we"ve all seen fans call Ingram, Tatum/Brown, Booker, Jamal Murray, Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon, Norm Powell, etc. "untouchable" and it"s like well, I admire your ability to fall in love, I guess.


This is not a shot at any of those particular guys, but it"s almost certain that they all won"t pan out to be stars, yet everyone is convinced that their guy will be the one that makes it and the other guys are trash.


這大概就是我想說的,每個人都喜歡自己主隊里的年輕球員,我們都見到粉絲們聲稱英格拉姆,塔圖姆/布朗,布克,賈馬爾-默里、賈巴里-帕克、阿隆-戈登、諾曼-鮑威爾等等年輕球員都是不可交易的。我想那我只能說佩服你們的樂觀了。

這不是抨擊任何上述具體某個球員,但是幾乎可以肯定他們中不是所有人將來都可以成為巨星,然而現在所有人都堅信他們的年輕球員可以成為巨星而認為別隊的年輕球員就是垃圾。


[–][CHI] Derrick RoseTheAnonymousUsername 3 指標 19小時前


Well any player that is untouchable at a young age is because you never know what they could turn into (perfect example: Brandon Ingram), you don"t want to trade/get rid of a superstar before they turn into one. I"m sure in 3-4 years many players that have been called untouchable will be moved and won"t even be max players.


好吧,任何年輕球員被認為不可交易的原因是你無法知道他未來能不能成為巨星(最好的例子:布蘭登-英格拉姆),在他們成為明星之前,你肯定不想交易或者送走他們。我敢肯定三到四年之後許多曾經被認為不可交易的年輕球員會被送走,甚至不會成為頂薪球員。


[–]Pacersjoelwhyrock[S] 31 指標 23小時前

Yeah, but 7 years is an important milestone. It"s when guys are generally hitting unrestricted free agency or entering the final years of their second contracts.


The only way first-round selections move in the first four years is if they"re traded or fall out of the league. Then the only way they move the next two years is if their initial team doesn"t give them a QO, or fails to match a RFA offer sheet.


Basically, by the first time that players can make their own choices about where to go, the VAST majority aren"t sticking around where they were drafted.


對,但是七年真的是一塊很重要的里程碑了。七年一般就是球員進入非受限自由球員市場,或者到達第二份合同最後一年的時候。


首輪被選中的球員在前四年換隊的唯一原因就是被交易,或者水平達不到聯盟的要求。他們在後兩年換隊的唯一原因則是:主隊沒有提供一份資質報價合同,或者選擇不匹配在他們成為受限制自由球員後收到的邀請合同。

所以基本上,等到球員第一次可以自己決定去哪個球隊打球時,絕大多數球員都不會選擇留在選秀時被選中的球隊中。





[–]Raptorslekobe_rose 22 指標 21小時前


Meanwhile, of the 2009 draft class top 10 picks, Blake Griffin, Steph Curry, and DeMar DeRozan are still at home. Blake and DeMar came in as freak athletes but developed a hell of a lot of polish. And we know about Steph. So there"s that too. and Rubio only moved this year.


猛龍球迷:同時,2009年的前十位選秀中,布雷克-格里芬,斯蒂芬-庫里和德馬爾-德羅贊仍然為母隊效力。格里芬和德羅贊初入聯盟時已經被認為是身體素質逆天的運動員,但之後在技術上又經過了不少打磨。至於庫里的情況我們則都了解,所以他也沒有離隊。並且盧比奧今年才被交易走。

[–]Bulletsburnerfret 6 指標 21小時前


And Steph was like a coin flip away from being a Buck, and Blake and DeMar have been in plenty of trade talks.


It"s funny to remember how DeMar"s rookie extension was looked at as a gross overpay at the time. Mike Conley"s too.


庫里離被交易到雄鹿只差擲一枚硬幣的距離。格里芬和德羅贊也經常被涉及到交易傳聞里。


一想到德羅贊的新秀續約合同在那時被認為是大額溢價的,我就覺得很搞笑,邁克-康利那時候也是一樣的情況。

[–][TOR] Norman PowellBrownBaller17 7 指標 18小時前


Raptors never tried to trade DeRozan, they stuck with him through his development.


猛龍從來沒有嘗試過交易德羅贊,球隊一直陪伴著他,見證著他的進步。


[–]KnicksBreakfast_Sausage 36 指標 23小時前


2011 draft has a bunch of guys still on the team that drafted them. I guess it"s kind of variable


2011屆選秀的球員也還是有很多球員留在母隊的,我覺得這是一個可變因素。


[–]Bulletsburnerfret 39 指標 23小時前


I mean, the 2010 draft did last month (PG, Bradley, Hayward) let alone at this point last year.


I"d be shocked if Leonard got moved, but would it be an unbelievable surprise if Kemba, Klay or Kyrie did next offseason?


我的意思是,2010屆的球員們上個月就有選擇離隊的了(喬治,布拉德利,海沃德),更別提去年的這個時候。如果倫納德換了隊伍我會感到震驚,但如果下個休賽期肯巴-沃克,克萊-湯普森或者凱里-歐文離隊了,還會那麼難以置信嗎?


[–][MIN] Zach LaVineSherspockHolmes 18 指標 22小時前


Two of them are essential to their finals teams (and

Klay is incredibly low maintenance, at that) and Kemba is the leader of the Hornets. Those aren"t the greatest examples, lol


他們中的兩個人對於他們的總決賽隊伍是至關重要的(而且克萊並不是一個對待遇要求很高的球員),沃克則是黃蜂隊的領袖。他們三個人可不是會被交易的最好的例子,哈哈哈。


[–][LAL] Larry Nance Jr.feloniousfrog 33 指標 21小時前


Literally every season I play in 2k, Kemba gets traded for two 1st rounders during the 2018 draft. And then the Hornets draft a center. Baffling.


準確來說我玩2K時的每個賽季,沃克都會被交易換來兩個2018年的首輪選秀權。然後黃蜂隊就會選來一個中鋒。真搞不懂。


[–]Timberwolvesjkgaspar4994 13 指標 22小時前


Kyrie may move if Lebron moves. It"s looking more and more likely that the Cavs may get blown up.


如果勒布朗換隊的話,歐文可能也會走的。這麼看來騎士隊越來越有可能翻船了。





[–]Lakershopsandhorns 14 指標 23小時前


Also to keep in mind, ANY basketball player is up for grabs and ready to move. Long gone are the days of players just sticking it out with one team until retirement, especially superstars. I think the only star player who hasn"t been traded, left or even flirted with the idea was Dirk Nowitzki.


Even Tim Duncan and Kobe have been linked to trades or possible other FA destinations. I"d say it"s almost more fair to expect your player to leave at some point and just be pleasantly surprised if they stay.


湖人球迷:記住啦,任何籃球運動員都想抓住好機會並離開。球員們堅守一個隊伍直到退役的日子早就過去了,尤其對於明星球員。我認為唯一一個沒有離開,被交易或者牽扯進交易傳聞里的明星球員便只有德克-諾維茨基。


就算是鄧肯和科比也被牽扯進交易流言過,或者是身為自由球員時很可能會選擇其他的球隊。我會說,在某個時間點上更公平的做法是你會做好母隊球星選擇離開的準備,然後把他最終留下作為一個非常愉悅的驚喜。


[–][POR] Al-Farouq AminuKyleLousy 98 指標 23 小時前


Nick Collison is the only player from the 2003 draft to remain on his team throughout his career.


尼克-科里森是2003屆新秀中唯一一個從被選中開始,貫穿整個職業生涯都留在同一支球隊里效力的球員。


[–]Bulletsburnerfret 161 指標 23 小時前


His team, however, did not remain the team that drafted him.


然而他的球隊卻不是那支最初選中他的了。


[–]Mavericks Bandwagonnmdarkie 65 指標 22小時前


teams are so unloyal these days


現在的球隊可真不忠心。


[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookwcooper97 20 指標 19小時前


He doesn"t see a lot of court time anymore, if he does it"s because another big is injured. He used to be great to stick out there with the second unit and inspire some passing when the offense got stagnant. Now he"s our vet and main locker room guy. He"s become our glorified assistant coach. He"s one of the most loved players in OKC. Mr. Thunder. He"s our equivalent of Udonis Haslem.


雷霆球迷:他現在已經不怎麼有上場時間了,如果上場打球一定是因為另一個大個子受傷了。科隊曾經擅長帶第二陣容打球並且能在進攻停滯時傳出一些很好的球來激勵隊員。現在他是我們的老兵,更是更衣室里的大哥。科里森已經成為球隊的榮譽助理教練了。他是雷霆里最受愛戴的幾個球員之一。雷霆先生——科里森,他就是我們的猶多尼斯-哈斯勒姆。







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