騎士2億薪金將創紀錄，勇士也將受困於奢侈稅，克萊打球不要錢！

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[Nahmad] - Cavs are currently projected to become the first team in NBA history to cross $200M in payroll + luxury taxes. They"re at $211M.

目前，騎士隊預計將成為NBA歷史上第一支球員薪水和奢侈稅合計超過兩億美元的球隊，他們達到了兩億一千一百萬美元。

[–]Pistonsthatpj 531 points 16 hours ago

Who in the heck are they paying that cost so much? The corpse of Deron Williams?

真見鬼，他們在誰身上花了這麼多錢?一個行屍走肉的德隆-威廉姆斯？

[–]Warriorsnotsellingjeans 417 points 15 hours ago

Repeater tax is a b

連年奢侈稅很蛋疼。

[–]Mintastic 214 points 13 hours ago

Yup, this is literally what it"s designed for. To stop teams from constantly stacking up and dominating endlessly. Cavs had a good run but they"ll probably be in rebuild mode after this season.

沒錯，不誇張的說，這就是設計連年奢侈稅的意義所在——為了防止球隊不斷積累實力和長期統治。騎士隊運營的很不錯，但是在這個賽季結束之後他們可能就要進入重建模式了。

[–][POR] Geoff PetrieTheGourmet9 23 points 12 hours ago

Like some other rules they"ve made though, this is going to hurt the small market lower revenue teams more than create parity with the stacked teams.

但是就像聯盟制定的其他一些規則一樣，這將會加劇對那些市場小、收入低的球隊造成的傷害，而不是為它們創造和豪門球隊平等的條件。

[–][POR] Geoff PetrieTheGourmet9 34 points 12 hours ago

They"ve paid a ton for their role players. Thompson, Smith and Shumpert make a combined 40 and then Frye and Korver are another 13. Add in the stars collectively making another almost 75 and they"re 10 mill over the tax with another 5-7 players still needed to fill out the roster on minimum contracts. Add in the near 50% increase in tax payment due to the repeater rule and you get the most expensive team in sports history, at least until the Warriors have to pay Klay and Draymond again.

騎士隊在他們的角色球員身上花了太多的錢。特里斯坦-湯普森，史密斯和香波特加起來有四千萬，弗萊和科沃爾又有一千三百萬，加上在巨星球員（三巨頭）身上所花費的差不多七千五百萬，這些加起來就已經超過奢侈稅起征線一千萬了，而且還需要以最低合同再簽下5到7名球員來填滿球隊名單。再加上由於連年奢侈稅規則所造成的增長了將近50%的稅款，你便能夠得到大概是體育史上最燒錢的球隊了，至少在勇士重新續約克萊和格林之前。

[–]PMe_APic_Of_ur_shoes 61 points 13 hours ago

They"re paying Tristan Thompson 15+ million to be out-rebounded by Steph in the finals

騎士一年付給特里斯坦-湯普森一千五百多萬，好讓他在總決賽里在籃板上被庫里完爆。

[–][CLE] Christian Eyengayounglougarrick 61 points 16 hours ago

Which is why Iman Shumpert will be gone.

這也是為什麼香波特將會被送走的原因。

[–]LakersOgenki1978 26 points 12 hours ago

Except nobody wants him. For some reason a lot of redditors think you can just dump non-stars to teams with cap space for free

然而沒有球隊想要他。不知道因為什麼原因，很多reddit上的人都覺得可以把非明星球員丟到有薪資空間的球隊而不用付出任何代價。

[–]LakersOgenki1978 8 points 12 hours ago

David "runner up to executive of the year in 2015" Griffin. Essentially Billy King-like moves but with Lebron to make the overpayments and massive trades look reasonable. Remember, Billy King almost won an executive of the year back when he had Iverson in his prime.

大衛-「2015年最佳總經理第二名」-格里芬。這哥們基本上都是比利-金式的操作，但是因為有詹姆斯的存在，使得這些多花的錢和大量的交易看起來很合理。要知道，比利-金在有巔峰艾佛森的時候，差點贏得了最佳總經理。

[–]EndotheGreat 27 points 12 hours ago

The insane irony is that Dan Gilbert was the champion of the repeater tax movement.

He wanted to protect smaller market teams from being outspent due to not having the same merch and TV money that LA and NY get. Not only has this backfired on a personal level, but on a community level. Now successful drafting small market teams cant keep their talent because they would never have the budget for multiple max deals on repeater tax levels.

更為諷刺的是，丹-吉爾伯特是制定連年奢侈稅規則的擁護者。

他想使市場更小的球隊，不會因為沒有得到像洛杉磯和紐約所獲得的那樣多的贊助和電視收入，而耗盡財力。然而這不僅在個人層面上適得其反，在球隊層面上同樣如此。如今那些有著成功選秀的小球市球隊並不能留住他們有天賦的球員，因為他們永遠不會有那麼多的預算，來在連年奢侈稅的水平上開出好幾份頂薪合同。

[–]Lakersabzflabz 11 points 10 hours ago

Send em to LA we pay

湖人球迷：把他們送到洛杉磯來吧，我們給錢。

[–]Warriorsanus_kanter 599 points 16 hours ago

Warriors about to top 300 in a few years

勇士球迷：勇士在幾年之內球隊的花費就會超過三億美元。

[–]PoliticalScienceGrad 206 points 16 hours ago

Klay seems like the kind of guy who might take a paycut to stay.

克萊看起來像是那種可能會為了留隊接受降薪的傢伙。

[–]Warriorsezprodigy 717 points 16 hours ago

Klay seems like the kind of guy who forgot his getting paid to play

克萊看起來像是那種會忘了他打球是要領薪水的傢伙。

[–]Warriorsfrog_wiz 75 points 14 hours ago

Lot of guys on the team have said klay is the hardest worker out there so I"d believe it. Hardest worker, chillest chiller.

勇士隊里很多人都說克萊是隊里最刻苦的球員，所以我相信是這樣的。最努力的球員，同時玩的時候也是最要瘋的傢伙。

[–][GSW] Draymond Greenyodelocity 2 points 5 hours ago

You can see it on the court. Dude runs almost full speed non stop when he"s on the court.

It"s a nightmare to defend his constant cuts, and he rarely takes plays off on defense.

你在場上就能看出來這點。當克萊上場時他幾乎都在全速奔跑，不會停歇。

要防守他不斷地切入簡直就是噩夢，而他在防守端也幾乎從不鬆懈。

[–]Warriorsatmosphere325 49 points 16 hours ago

Not a payout per se, but negotiating down.

"We"re willing to offer $54m for two years."

"Make it an even $40m for three -- hey, are those cookies for everybody?"

續約本身並不只是花錢而已，而是經過談判的結果。

球隊：「我們願意為你提供一份兩年五千四百萬美元的合同」

克萊：「變成三年四千萬美元就行——嘿，那些餅乾是給所有人的嗎？」

[–]ThunderTheGhostOfBobStoops 9 points 13 hours ago

"okay, I"ll put it down to $35m if you let me take the rest back to my apartment"

克萊：「好吧，如果你讓我把剩下的餅乾帶回公寓，我就把合同降到三千五百萬美元」

[–]BullsEconamWRX 2 points 12 hours ago

Klay will leave for a max offer from Lakers. As long as Walton is still the coach.

克萊會因為收到來自湖人的頂薪而選擇離開的，只要還是小沃頓執教的話。

[–]SupersonicsJustadudefromHI 6 points 8 hours ago

Fun fact: A lot of dudes would rather make more money than win rings. Just nobody admits it. I"d love to see an anonymous poll of NBA players who would take a ring over a Harden contract. The numbers would shock you. Rings don"t feed families.

And before you say "Once you"ve made enough, it doesn"t matter", time and time again that"s been proven false by literally every rich person ever. Only poor people say that shit.

一個有趣的事實：許多球員相比於贏得冠軍戒指，寧願掙更多的錢，只是沒人承認這一點罷了。我很想讓NBA球員進行匿名投票，看看誰會選擇冠軍戒指而不是一份哈登那樣的合同，結果會嚇壞你的。冠軍戒指並不能養家糊口。

而在你說「一旦你掙的足夠多，錢就不重要了」之前，毫不誇張的說，從古至今的每個富翁都一次又一次證明了這句話是錯的。只有窮人才會說這種廢話。

[–]Thunder BandwagonSleepyEel 253 points 17 hours ago

That"s a lot of money just to get creamed in the finals

如果僅僅是為了讓他們在總決賽里被打成漿糊的話，這筆錢很多了。

[–]ThunderRemolten11 128 points 16 hours ago

Many teams would probably kill to be in the same position...

同樣在總決賽里，許多球隊可能會被屠殺的。

[–]Warriorsezprodigy 137 points 16 hours ago

then those teams should relocate to the east

那麼那些球隊應該搬遷到東部去。

[–]MuhBack 93 points 15 hours ago

They"d have to beat Lebron to get creamed in the Finals otherwise they"d just be getting Lebron creamed

東部的球隊要想在總決賽里被打成漿糊，就得先打敗詹姆斯，否則他們就只能被詹姆斯打成漿糊了。

[–]Bullsanti_dan 12 points 13 hours ago

I think the difficulty of that is overstated. When you are in the East you get to face Lebron on equal footing without having run the gauntlet of the West, which clearly hurt Golden State in 2015 & 2016.

我覺得擊敗詹姆斯的難度被人們誇大了。當你處在東部時，你能在平等的條件下面對詹姆斯，而不需要像在西部那樣歷盡千辛萬苦，而在2015和2016年，很明顯這一點傷害到了勇士隊。

[–]MuhBack 10 points 13 hours ago

GS"s 2015 path to the Finals was as easy as the East. The played an 8th seed Pelicans. Then they played the Grizziles, who were weakened by injuries. Then they faced a Rockets team that had no business being in the WCF and totally collapsed there. I guarantee the Cavs would have beat those teams just as easily.

In 2016 they got their biggest challenge in playing the Thunder but outside of that... they haven"t face harder competition than Lebrons Cavs have in the East.

勇士在2015年通往總決賽的道路，和東部一樣不費吹灰之力。首輪他們面對的是八號種子鵜鶘隊，之後他們遇到的是因為傷病而實力大減的灰熊隊，最後他們面對的是本不應該出現在西部決賽，並且完全潰敗的火箭。我保證騎士也能一樣輕鬆的解決掉這些球隊。

在2016年，他們遇到的最大挑戰是和雷霆的對決，但除了那輪之外……勇士面對的競爭也沒有比詹姆斯所率領的騎士在東部遇到的競爭更加困難多少。

[–]Warriorschronicpenguins 10 point 16 hours ago

Are you kidding me?

The pelicans were 45-37... The cavs played the 7th seed celtics, who were under .500 (40-42). Pels wouldve been the 6th seed in the east

next the cavs played bulls, with an injured gasol only play 4 games. Sure the grizzlies had some injuries but conley still played 5 games.

the rockets were 2/3 seed in the west, they had a better season record than the cavs.

theres an argument for a couple of western teams being able to beat the cavs in the finals. A handful of western teams could win the title of they played a team besides the cavs in the finals

你在逗我？

鵜鶘隊45勝37負，而騎士面對的是勝率低於50%（40勝42負）的七號種子凱爾特人，鵜鶘要是在東部的話就是第六。

之後騎士遇到的是公牛，而加索爾因為受傷只打了四場比賽。當然灰熊隊內也有一些傷病情況，但康利仍然打了五場比賽。

火箭是西部的第二或三號種子，他們的常規賽戰績比騎士更好。

很多爭論都認為西部有兩三支球隊能在總決賽里擊敗騎士，同時存在很多的西部球隊都能在總決賽中擊敗除騎士之外的其他東部球隊，贏得冠軍。

[–]Bullsanti_dan 22 points 16 hours ago

The 2015 run wasn"t hard, but the East was even less-harder. The thunder series was an insane tax on the Warriors.

勇士2015年通往總決賽的道路並不困難，但東部的難易度甚至更低。而去年對雷霆的那輪系列賽則瘋狂的消耗了勇士隊。