天勾賈巴爾人生贏家！各聯賽冠軍拿到手軟，NCAA改規則不讓他扣籃！

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Kareem went 88-2 in his 3 years at UCLA (self.nba)

賈巴爾在UCLA大學的3年時間裡，球隊戰績為88勝2負。

Got 3 championship in those 3 years. Put up 26-16 on 64% ts% . Pretty amazing

在那3年里他拿到了3個全國冠軍，以64%的真實命中率場均砍下26-16，非常了不起的表現。

[–][PHI] Aaron McKieMichael_Watts 744 指標 22小時前

He also went 79-2 in high school including a 71 game winning streak, winning 3 straight New York City Catholic championships.

賈巴爾在高中里也打出了79-2的戰績，其中還包括一波71連勝，連拿3次紐約市天主教錦標賽冠軍。

[–]76ersImmynimmy 483 指標 22小時前

Imagine winning that much all the way from high school to college to the pros. Goddamn that"s a lot of winning.

想像一下從高中到大學再到職業過程中一直瘋狂的贏球吧，真特么見鬼，這贏得也太多了吧。

[–]TimberwolvesTBLegend7[S] 323 指標 22小時前

Like the opposite of my sports career. I played football and basketball each for like 10 years and had like 2 winning seasons

和我的體育生涯剛好相反，我打了大概10年的橄欖球和籃球，但是贏球的賽季總共可能只有2個。

[–]Warriors Bandwagon3entendre 14 指標 18小時前

...and then finding yourself excluded from GOAT conversations because you"re.. very tall.

…然而贏了這麼多球後卻發現自己（賈巴爾）被排除在歷史最偉大球員的討論範圍外，因為你…太高了

[–]76ersImmynimmy 16 指標 17小時前

Meh, KAJ is always excluded form the GOAT conversations cause MJ was a brand and was marketed really well. Not that I"m arguing KAJ is the GOAT or MJ is the GOAT...I"m just saying.

唉，賈巴爾總是被排除在歷史最佳的討論範圍外，因為喬丹創立了一個品牌，而且市場公關做的非常棒。我這樣說並不是在爭論賈巴爾和喬丹誰才是歷史最佳…我只是說說罷了。

[–]85dewwwsu7 18 指標 15小時前

It"s not just marketing, but television and overall media coverage was much less during Kareem"s six MVP seasons, for example. Many people"s visual images of him as a player are based off when he was age 37 and over, when Lakers/Celtics became more of a national tv thing.

這不僅僅只是市場營銷的關係，但是在賈巴爾那6個MVP賽季里，電視以及整個媒體的報道量都要比喬丹的時代少很多。比如很多人對於賈巴爾作為NBA球員的視覺印象都是以他37歲以後的比賽作為基礎的，那時候湖人/凱爾特人之間的對決才變得更像是一個全美電視會轉播的事情。

Imagine Lonzo Ball having won 3 college championships and player of the year awards. Then 6 MVPs in ten years and another decade of being an all star after that, the NBA championships, becoming all time leading scorer, fighting a Bruce Lee in a movie, etc.

就想想現在的郎佐-鮑爾如果在大學連續拿下3個NCAA冠軍，同時獲得「年度最佳球員」的稱號，然後在接下來的10年NBA生涯里拿到6個MVP，隨後10年里繼續保持入選全明星陣容，拿下多個NBA總冠軍，在總得分榜上排名歷史第一，並在電影中和李小龍對打等等。

It would be like 23 years straight of peak Tim Tebow ESPN coverage, with at the end the vast majority probably considering Ball the greatest.

那麼鮑爾將會在這23年里年年都得到Tim Tebow巔峰時期那麼多的ESPN報道量，那麼等到他生涯末端的時候，絕大多數的人們可能都會認為鮑爾是歷史最偉大的球員。

註：Tim Tebow，橄欖球里一名極具戲劇性的四分衛，生涯大起大落非常嚴重。

[–]NuggetsCrackajalacka 19 指標 22小時前*

Also he led the freshman team to victory over the UCLA varsity team, a team that had won the national championship the year before.

另外賈巴爾在大一的時候就帶領新生籃球隊擊敗了UCLA校隊主力，後者在前一年剛剛拿下了全國冠軍。

[–]Rocketsthe_yoyo 47 指標 22小時前

Whats crazy is that back then Freshman could not play for the "varsity" team so even though the Varsity team during Alcindor"s freshman year was National Champions they weren"t even the best team on campus since the freshman team would beat them because of Alcindor.

關於這件事很瘋狂的一點是，當時大一新生是不能代表校隊「主力」上場打球的，所以就算在賈巴爾大一時，UCLA的校隊主力在前一年拿下了全國冠軍，他們也仍然不是校園裡最強的籃球隊，新生籃球隊因為賈巴爾的存在而得以擊敗他們。

[–]LakersSeanasaurus 4 指標 16小時前

Then you look at guys like Bill Russell who made 12 NBA finals in 13 season. Mother fucker won 11 rings, 2 NCAA titles, and an olympic gold medal in a 15 year span.

然後你看著像比爾-拉塞爾這樣的傢伙，在13個NBA賽季里打進了12次總決賽。這混蛋在15年的時間段里拿下了11枚戒指，2個NCAA冠軍以及一枚奧運會金牌。

[–]Pacersdanimalplanimal 214 指標 23小時前

and wasn"t even allowed to dunk it!

而且賈巴爾大學時，扣籃甚至都不被允許在比賽上使用。

[–]Magicultranonymous11 49 指標 22小時前

What do you mean?

啥意思？

[–][MIA] LeBron JamesAndaconda4LH 320 指標 22小時前

There was a rule added to the NCAA back when Kareem was at UCLA that made dunking illegal because Kareem (Lew Alcindor) was just that fucking better than everyone.

當時賈巴爾在UCLA時，一項規則被加進了NCAA中，就是扣籃變得不被允許了，因為當時賈巴爾就是單純的特么比其他人出色那麼多。

[–]SpursFrontFlipLip 63 指標 22小時前

in 1967, the NCAA banned the dunk as an "unskillful shot," IIRC. So, after KAJ"s freshman year at UCLA. It was always said that they outlawed it due to Kareem"s frequent use of the dunk. Dunking was allowed again in 1976, I believe.

如果我沒記錯的話，在1967年，NCAA禁止了在比賽中扣籃。所以剛好是賈巴爾在UCLA大一那年結束後，規則被添加進去的。流傳總是說，是因為賈巴爾在大一里非常頻繁的使用扣籃這一技能，所以NCAA廢除了這一動作。我相信，扣籃在1976年又再次被允許在比賽中使用了。

[–][CHI] Derrick RoseSethTrahan 5 指標 18小時前

Damn that would have meant the dunk was banned for Dr. J"s entire time in college. Unrelated to the topic I know, but just something that crossed my mind

見鬼，這可能意味著在J博士整個大學時期，扣籃都是不被允許的。我知道這和帖子的主題沒什麼聯繫，只是出現在了我的腦海中。

[–]Kittens4Brunch 6 指標 18小時前

I wonder if that helped develop his game and extended his longevity.

我在想這（禁止扣籃）是否幫助賈巴爾改進了自己的比賽，並延長了他的職業生涯。

[–]Pacersdanimalplanimal 6 指標 18小時前

yeah, I imagine he wouldn"t have been quite as deadly with the skyhook they let him dunk

是的，我感覺，如果當初他們允許賈巴爾扣籃的話，他就不會像擁有「天勾」這樣如此致命了。

[–]TimberwolvesJames_McNulty 129 指標 20小時前

Imagine if they outlawed the 3-pt shot because Curry shots them so well.

想像一下如果因為庫里的3分投的太出色了，聯盟禁止三分球了會怎麼樣吧。

[–][POR] Clifford RobinsonSardinesGivePower 114 指標 22小時前

Scrub Bill Walton only went 86-4 with 2 undefeated seasons. UCLA fans must have been devastated those 3 years.

The insane thing is Walton came 3 years after Kareem left.

The more insane thing? They won titles behind Sidney Wicks in those two years in between. UCLA went 205-5 over 7 season with 7 titles.

所以弱雞比爾-沃頓只打出了86-4的戰績，外加2個保持全勝的賽季。UCLA的球迷們在那3年里一定快氣死了吧。

瘋狂的是，沃頓在賈巴爾離開UCLA的3年之後便來到了這所大學。

更加瘋狂的事情？他們在賈巴爾和沃頓時期間隔的這中間2年里，依靠西德尼-威克斯的帶領，又拿到了2個全國冠軍。

所以UCLA在這總共7個賽季里，戰績為205-5，拿了全部7個全國冠軍。

[–]TimberwolvesTBLegend7[S] 67 指標 22小時前

Basketball in general must have been kinda boring in the 60s. Just Celtics and UCLA every damn year

60年代的籃球總體上肯定有些無聊，基本每一年都特么的是凱爾特人和UCLA奪冠。

[–]Lakersbrandoi 246 指標 23小時前

I think you"re the greatest, but my dad says you don"t work hard enough on defense. And he says that lots of times, you don"t even run down court. And that you don"t really try... except during the playoffs.

湖人球迷：我認為你（賈巴爾）是史上最偉大的球員，但是我爸爸說你在防守端不夠努力。而且他說很多時候，你甚至都不回防。所以你沒有真的非常努力去打球…除了在季後賽里。

[–]76ersflanjrenr 69 指標 23小時前

Why are we acting like this is impressive?

為什麼我們要表現得像賈巴爾這些大學戰績很了不起一樣？

[–]76ersCircleJerkForKarma_ 128 指標 23小時前

KAT went 38-1 in 1 year

唐斯在大一這一年裡，戰績為38勝1負。

[–]TimberwolvesIIFollowYou 8 指標 20小時前

Tbf, UCLA was so good during that stretch that they won almost the same amount without Kareem as they did with him.

說實話，那段時間裡UCLA實在是太厲害了，有沒有賈巴爾，他們基本上都能拿下相同的勝場數。

[–]Warriorsmanimarco1108 42 指標 23小時前

and they went 87-3 and also got championships the following 3 years after he left.