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斗轉星移」,聯盟格局大轉變!2010和2017哪個休賽季最瘋狂?

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斗轉星移」,聯盟格局大轉變!2010和2017哪個休賽季最瘋狂?




If Kyrie gets traded this summer, can we safely say that this has been the greatest offseason in recent memory? (self.nba)


若歐文被交易,我們是否可以穩穩地把今夏列為近年來記憶中最震撼的一個休賽期?




After KD"s sneky snek move to the Warriors, the NBA has seen an interesting set of dominoes fall. Last season, after KD, guys like Boogie have moved on from their previous team. But holy shit is this offseason looking great or what? First Lonzo Ball hype alongside what could be the best ensemble of rookies we"ve seen in one draft. Then DLo being moved followed by Butler, Trillsap, Hayward FA, PG, VICTOR FUCKING OLADIPO CP3, and now possibly Kyrie and Me7o?!? Someone please tell me a better offseason than this.




EDIT: also, the #1 pick traded. sorry guys this was a REALLY eventful summer. hard to remember everything off the top of my head


杜蘭特出人意料地投奔勇士之後,引發了NBA一系列有趣的骨牌效應。儘管上賽季在KD身後,考辛斯也離開了國王,但是今年休賽期特么的更瘋狂了,不是么?首先,有朗佐-鮑爾的驚人表現,伴隨著諸多實力新秀井噴,這可能是我們在同一屆新秀里看到的最好的集體表演。然後,拉塞爾被交易,接下來發生變動的有巴特勒、米爾薩普、海沃德(自由球員)、喬治、奧拉迪波、保羅。而現在,歐文和安東尼很可能也要離隊?!?有人能告訴我還有哪個休賽期比今年更震撼嗎?


【注】 喔還有,今年的狀元簽也被交易了。抱歉老哥們,今年夏天的大新聞太多了,我一時半會想不起來所有的。




[–]Fasyed21 1106 指標 14小時前


It has been one of the craziest off season from start to now


這是有史以來最瘋狂的休賽期之一。



[–]TimberwolvesLamarMillerMVP 166 指標 7小時前*


2017 was good but it has absolutely nothing on 2010. In 2010, 8 coaches got fired and the following players were all free agents and were all good at the time


2017年休賽期很棒,但跟2010年比起來算不上什麼。2010年,有8名主教練被解僱,下列球員統統成為自由球員,且在當時正值當打之年。




Lebron James (and the decision)

Dwayne Wade


Chris Bosh


Dirk Nowitzki


Amare Stoudemire (max player at the time, and was going to bring back the Knicks)


Paul Pierce

Joe Johnson


Carlos Boozer


Ray Allen


David Lee


Luis Scola

Rudy Gay


勒布朗-詹姆斯(「決定」)


德維恩-韋德


克里斯-波什


德克-諾維茨基

阿瑪雷-斯塔德邁爾(當時的頂薪球員,正要幫助尼克斯復興)


保羅-皮爾斯


喬-約翰遜


卡洛斯-布澤爾


雷-阿倫

大衛-李


路易斯-斯科拉


魯迪-蓋伊




Now you might say "wow, that"s quite the list." But the following guys were also signing contracts, despite being way past their primes and generally washed up. Essentially the ring chasers list:


現在你可能會驚呼「哇,居然有這麼多。」還有一些球員,儘管他們巔峰早已過去,被原球隊所清理,但還是簽訂了新合同。他們基本就是總冠軍的追逐者:


Tracy McGrady


Allen Iverson


Shaq


Ben Wallace


特雷西-麥克格雷迪


阿倫-艾弗森


沙克-奧尼爾


本-華萊士




There were a ton of trades of mediocre to above-average starters that year, with the following guys traded (just in the offseason, not anything in the regular season)


那年,還有一大批平均水平及以上的先發球員被交易,名單如下(這僅僅是休賽期的交易,不包括賽季中期的交易):


Tyson Chandler


Corey Magette


Samuel Dalembert


Courtney Lee


Trevor Ariza


Hedo Turkoglu


Delonte West


Marco Bellinelli


Peja Stojakovic


Darren Collison


Michael Beasley


泰森-錢德勒


科里-馬蓋蒂


薩穆埃爾-戴勒姆波特


考特尼-李


特雷沃-阿里扎


希度-特科格魯


德隆蒂-韋斯特


佩賈-斯托賈科維奇


達倫-科里森


邁克爾-比斯利




And this is like 25% of the total trading that happened that offseason. There were so many guys switching hands that offseason at such an outrageous pace that the league was almost totally different the following year.


而涉及到上面這些名字的交易只佔了當年休賽期總交易的25%,那年太多球員以驚人的頻率改換門庭,以至於接下來的賽季,聯盟完全變了個樣。




Now you might be saying "OK, that"s a lot of free agents, that"s a lot of ring chasers, that"s a lot of middle-roster jumbling, but 2017 has the edge for summer league hype, right?" No! That year was the SUMMER LEAGUE LIN-SANITY year, back when Lin was with the Warriors and there was absurd hype about his facing off with Wall. That was the original Linsanity year, when Lin originally became a cult hero.


現在你可能會說「好吧,2010年休賽期的確有很多自由球員,有很多冠軍追逐者,以及中產球員大規模的洗牌,但2017年夏季聯賽總比2010年更精彩吧?」當然不!那年是夏季聯賽的「林瘋狂」,當時林書豪還在勇士,他在夏季聯賽面對沃爾時的表現被人們大肆吹捧。那年是「林瘋狂」開始的元年,他從那時開始逐漸成為受人膜拜的英雄。


2010 might actually be the craziest ever offseason, fairly or not this one doesn"t really come that close.


也許2010年才是真正的最瘋狂的休賽期,無論公平與否,今年還是差的太遠了。




[–]narmerguy 45 指標 11小時前


I don"t know, the offseason that the Miami Heat Big 3 assembled was pretty crazy. You had a top 3 of all time player leave his home team, you had Bosh and Wade and James all on one team, Stoudamire went to NYK, I"m probably missing other stuff. Not as many pieces but I felt like we had earth-shaking contender change with Cavs going straight to lottery.


我不知道,但是當年熱火組成三巨頭是真的太瘋狂了。一位歷史前三的球員離開了他的家鄉球隊,波什、韋德、詹姆斯聚集在同一支球隊當中,斯塔德邁爾轉會尼克斯,我很可能還遺漏了其他球員。這樣的記憶並不多,但我當時感覺地球都在顫抖,聯盟的爭冠格局徹底被改變,而騎士直接掉進樂透區。




[–]NetsFajitaTits 10 指標 9小時前


The fact that the #1 pick being traded is like, the 8th or 9th most shocking thing is saying something for sure. 2010 was pretty good, too, but it all ended a few days after The Decision. There"s about a month and half to go til training camp and the stove is still hot.


交易狀元簽的震驚程度在今年只能排在第8或第9的樣子,這便肯定能說明一些東西了。2010年休賽期也很震撼,但是在詹姆斯做出「決定」之後幾天,一切都結束了。而現在,距離新賽季訓練營還有一個半月的時間,而交易氛圍仍然十分熱烈。





[–][HOU] Robert Horrysweetjesusofjupiter 209 指標 13小時前


dwight hornet has been the greatest so far.


霍華德去黃蜂是目前為止最棒的交易了。




[–][BOS] James Poseysreynolds1 47 指標 8小時前


Hell of a trade


這筆交易可以說非常贊了。




[–]Raptors BandwagonPingedSpinxz 7 指標 8小時前


What did the Hornets even trade to get him?


請問黃蜂都用誰換了霍華德?




[–][BOS] James Poseysreynolds1 34 指標 8小時前


Marco Bellinelli and Miles Plumlee"s awful contracts.


That"s it. Shit, Charlotte might have even fleeced a late draft pick too.


馬科-貝里內利和邁爾斯-普拉姆利的爛合同。


就這樣。見鬼,黃蜂好像還騙回來了個低順位選秀權。




[–]HornetsIlpav123 16 指標 6小時前


Yep. Charlotte swapped their #41 for Atlanta"s #31...and they only increased their payroll by $4m-$5m by replacing Plumlee and Belinelli with Howard...


Hornets are wanted for armed robbery.


沒錯,黃蜂用他們的41號簽換來了老鷹的31號簽…而在把普拉姆利和貝里內利換成霍華德之後,黃蜂的薪金總額只增加了400-500萬。


黃蜂簡直就是打劫,趕緊通緝起來。




[–]LakersTheJucheisLoose 72 指標 10小時前


You forgot about 224 M for Neymar


你們都忘了內馬爾的2.24億歐元轉會大巴黎了。




[–][DEN] Chauncey Billupsd-lo_tha_boss 21 指標 7小時前


Shaping up to be a great season


保證了接下來將會是個偉大的賽季。





[–]Cavaliersblockbyjames 576 指標 14小時前


Not for everyone 


騎士球迷:不是所有人都這麼覺得的…




[–]JazzJazzFan418 194 指標 13小時前


hug I know man, I know


爵士球迷:擁抱你大兄弟,我懂你的感受。




[–]MavericksReasonableHyperbole 75 指標 12小時前


You"ll always have Kyle Korver :)


你騎總是還有凱爾-科沃爾的:)




[–]Thunderflashtone 24 指標 11小時前


There is a lot of value in kyrie. Either way cavs will be fine. Its not like he up and died.


歐文的價值非常高。無論他留隊與否,騎士都會沒事的,又不是說他直接就沒了。




[–]pierrefermat1 12 指標 13小時前


Don"t worry if that happens it"ll just get better next summer :)


別擔心,如果歐文今年離隊的話,明年夏天只會更刺激:)





[–]RaptorsSaprano44 206 指標 14小時前


When the nba off season is more exciting than the nba finals


當你發現休賽期比總決賽還刺激的時候。




[–]WarriorsEverybodyHatesKevin 86 指標 11小時前


Not changing anytime soon either. If Kyrie leaves the Cavs there are gunna be zero teams in the east that can push the top 4 in the west


但是聯盟格局並不會因此就加速改變,如果歐文離開騎士的話,東部就沒有任何一支球隊能與西部前四抗衡了。




[–]Knicksdiablofreak 27 指標 10小時前


This may be the final straw that will break the east and west conference playoffs setup


(歐文離隊)將是迫使聯盟取消根據東西部分區確定季後賽席位的「最後一根稻草」。




[–]WarriorsEverybodyHatesKevin 39 指標 10小時前


If Lebron leaves the East next off season it"ll be truly and undeniably broken. Don"t count on it changing though, no GM in the east will vote for that as long as it benefit them


假如勒布朗明年離開東部,東西部分區就真正地、不容否認地應該取消了。但是別指望這會發生,因為只要對東部球隊有利,他們的總經理就不會對取消東西分區投贊成票的。




[–]Habib_Marwuana 15 指標 6小時前


If lebron goes west the allstar game becomes curry/westbrook harden/paulgeorge/jimmybutler/klay durant/lebron/kwahi AD vs wall/it/kyrie derozan giannis love hortford? I could even think of top of my head who would be second string in east. Needless to say it would get ugly.


如果勒布朗去了西部,全明星賽陣容將會是這樣?


西部:庫里/威少/哈登/喬治/巴特勒/克萊、杜蘭特/勒布朗/倫納德、濃眉


VS


東部:沃爾/小托馬斯/歐文、德羅贊、字母哥、樂福、霍福德


而且要為東部找個第二陣容,我可能就得想破頭了。但是也不用說了,那樣場面會變得非常難堪。




[–]CelticsBradWonder 14 指標 11小時前


Lol, there"s 4 invincible teams in the West now?


凱爾特人球迷:哈哈哈,所以西部現在有4支不可戰勝的球隊了?




[–]NetsSeatownNets 69 指標 11小時前


dude was exaggerating, but no offense i"d still take HOU/GSW/SAS/OKC over the celtics, none over 6 games.


前面幾樓有點誇張了,但無意冒犯,我仍然會把火箭、勇士、馬刺、雷霆的實力排在凱爾特人之上,無論誰對上綠軍,系列賽都將在6場之內結束。





[–]B1gD1ckL0v3r 44 指標 11小時前


Forgot about brook lopez and Avery Bradley


你忘了布魯克-洛佩茲和艾弗里-布拉德利。




[–]Timberwolvestheminnesotavikings 32 指標 11小時前


And Ricky Rubio


還有里基-盧比奧。




[–]TimberwolvesSupercool_Beas 18 指標 10小時前


And Zach Lavine :(


還有扎克-拉文:(




[–]BullsRakatok 292 指標 15小時前


In terms of actual basketball impact, probably.


But the DeAndre saga was so much more entertaining than anything that has happened this year. So many great moments.


在實際對比賽的影響方面,今年可能是最瘋狂的一個休賽期。


但是,小喬丹當年坑小牛的「英雄事迹」可比今年休賽期發生的任何事都要有意思得多。當時有趣的時刻太多了。







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