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I"m kind ofnew to the scene and Ti7 was my first dota 2 TI. Whiletrying to understand Pro Dota, I kept hearing about how amazing Wings Gamingwas and their dominant run in Ti6. I don"treally understand what made them so special.

Was ittheir picks?

Their runthrough ti6?

Theirplayers?

我是個Dota2萌新。Ti7是我第一次看Dota2國際邀請賽。當我嘗試著去了解職業Dota時,就一直有人向我安利Wings戰隊是如何如何牛逼,以及他們砍瓜切菜一般速通Ti6的傳奇。只是我還沒完全領會是什麼讓這隻隊伍在你們看來如此特別。

他們的ban選無懈可擊?

他們迅速通關了Ti6?

他們的隊員?

Godisme2139

They couldplay any hero.

Most teamsyou know what to ban against them as they have a core set of heroes they like.

Wingsdidn』t have that.

They playedevery hero and every hero in different roles.

Most teamswere at a complete loss as to what to ban against them as they didn"t even playthe op meta heroes most of the time and pulled out random strategies that weresuper fun to watch.

他們所有英雄都能打。

許多戰隊都有自己的一套核心陣容和英雄,你知道該Ban哪些英雄來針對他們。

但Wings沒有。

他們幾乎所有英雄都拿過,並且用他們打過所有位置。

大多數隊伍對陣Wings的時候,在Ban選階段就經歷滑鐵盧,因為Wings多數情況下不會拿版本熱門英雄,他們的戰術非常隨機,這也讓他們的比賽很有觀賞性。

OverweightPlatypus

Draft/picks.

You couldnot outdraft them because they picked the most number of heroes in the game andplayed the most number of different strats.

You couldnever predict what they would pick or what they would ban or what they wouldplay which makes it very interesting.

Builds.

Wings wasalso notorious for going with very strange builds.

They(in)famously beat Liquid in ESL using with a Bloodstone Dazzle, and pioneered afew builds like Linkens first Void.

Keep inmind that during TI6, there were no talents yet so the meta and hero builds wasquite a bit more defined than compared in TI7.

Theirplayers and their play.

Theirplayers were completely unknown players, each their first time at TI.

Their playwas sublime in that the only "strat" they really did was to be thebest team at utilizing item/hero timings.

They gaveup first blood in the majority of their games only to come back and stomp themid game the second they got their key items up.

How didthey do it?

Throughsome of the best teamfighting and team coordination ever seen in Dota.

Its not theperfectly executed Black Holes by Universe, but rather countless smallindividual plays from every player that shifts the fight to their advantage andthey pull out teamfight wins from out of nowhere.

It was veryfun to watch because they loved to brawl and teamfight which made games feelfast paced.

On the mainstage, they lost 2 games total.

Both gamesthey picked Pudge, one of them the picked Pudge + Techies.

Other thanthose games, every game they played, it never looked like they could lose itIMO.

They"dalways lose the early game, but always won midgame and most importantly, closeout the game spectacularly.

They wereIMHO by far the best team on the main stage to play, at any TI.

OG I thinkmay had been able to take a game off them, but Wings had also beat OG 3-1 inthe Summit prior.

I think inthe end, Wings are the best example of what you want to see in a Dota team.

No-nameplayers that are good individually and unstoppable together.

Endlessvariants of picks, builds, and strategies.

Teamfightingexecuted to perfection, and lots of it.

They justplayed very, very good Dota.

The bestDota in the world in fact.

As WinteRsaid in the TI6 Grand Finals, Wings are the team that has come closest to Dotaperfection.

戰術選擇/英雄選擇

別想在Ban選上壓制Wings,他們在比賽中拿過幾乎所有英雄,使用過幾乎所有戰術。

你幾乎想不到他們會拿或者Ban什麼,正因如此,他們的比賽相當的有意思。

出裝

Wings還因各種神經出裝而臭名昭著。

他們漂(wu)亮(chi)地在ESL比賽中用出血精石的戴澤幹掉了Liquid戰隊,並且開發了諸如第一件出林肯法球的虛空之類的出裝套路。

要知道,在Ti6的時候,並沒有天資特別出眾者,但Ti6比Ti7不管在對版本理解和英雄出裝上都詮釋地更加徹底。

他們的隊員和技藝。

他們的隊員幾乎都是路人,所有人都是第一次參加Ti。

在他們用嫻熟的技藝把「以不變應萬變」這一唯一戰術詮釋到極致。他們是真正將出裝/英雄強勢期利用到極致的最強戰隊。

大多數對局中Wings都早早交出一血,但都能夠運籌帷幄,獲取關鍵道具,並且掌控遊戲中期。

他們是如何做到的?

縱觀Dota中那麼多場經典團戰和團隊協作,

真正力挽狂瀾的往往不是謎團跳大五個,而是每個隊員數不清的小規模發揮為團隊積累優勢,通過團隊合作將均勢逐漸轉化為勝勢。

他們的比賽非常有趣,因為他們喜歡打架和團戰,這讓比賽節奏感覺很快。

在正賽階段,他們只輸了兩場比賽。

兩場比賽中他們都選了屠夫,其中一場他們還拿了屠夫+炸彈人組合。

除了這兩場比賽,他們所有其他比賽,在我看來,都沒有半點要輸的意思。

他們在比賽初期總是處於劣勢,但總能掌控中期,更重要的是,讓人拍案叫絕地贏下比賽。

恕我直言,他們是Ti正賽史上最強的戰隊。

OG曾有與Wings一較高下的實力,但Wings在夏季錦標賽上3-1擊敗了OG。

總結來說,Wings應該是你最想看到的Dota戰隊的範本。

這些無名的隊員,分能獨當一面,合則所向披靡。

用不盡的Ban選,出裝和戰術套路。

多數團戰執行幾乎完美。

他們把Dota玩兒得如此出神入化。

不愧為世界最強Dota戰隊。

就如WinteR大神在Ti6總決賽上所說,Wings是最接近完美的Dota戰隊。

k33p1tr341

They"dseemingly play any heroes in any positions and any style/strategy, and dominateeveryone with some of the most fluid team-play ever seen in DotA.

Even whenthey lost the early game (they often did), you knew they would comeback in themid game with said team-play.

They"d playteams in their own comfort zone (e.g MVP.P) and crush them.

The only 2games they lost on the TI main stage were when they picked Pudge.

They werethe most dominant team at an International ever.

他們似乎會玩兒所有英雄,能打所有位置,適應所有風格/戰術,用Dota史上最流暢的團隊協作征服了所有人。

當比賽初期陷入劣勢的時候(確實經常陷入劣勢),你就是知道他們會在中期通過團隊協作反敗為勝。

讓對手用最拿手的陣容(如MVP.P)應戰,然後將其抹殺。

他們在Ti正賽階段輸掉的為數不多的兩場比賽中拿了屠夫。

不愧是國際尚最有統治力的Dota戰隊。

Zgdcelimen 回復 k33p1tr341

Pudge +Techies XD

屠夫+炸彈人 XD

TheJewKnows回復 Zgdcelimen

Only gamethey lost though.

他們唯一輸掉的比賽

ScarySandwichMan 回復 TheJewKnows

They lost agrand final game.

他們在總決賽中也輸了一場。

LordDuder 回復ScarySandwichMan

Against theeventual finalists too at that.

They madeit look so easy.

It was asif they were fucking around with DC.

總決賽里也是拿這個組合輸的。

感覺Wings獲勝簡直易如反掌。

感覺就特么地跟在調戲DC戰隊似的。

Freakanime

Nobodymention yet but outside of their drafts and outstanding team fight one of thebest thing about wings is their item choices.

They willbuild their items that will cater the team strategy and counter the other teamswith their item builds even its not the norm for a hero to build that item theywill build it to have an advantage.

除了Ban選和出色的團戰發揮,還有一點沒人提到,Wings戰隊最高明的地方在於裝備選擇。

他們會選擇與團隊戰術相契合的裝備,並用靈活的出裝反制其他隊伍,通過出裝建立優勢,即便看起來某些英雄出這裝備蠢爆了。

Raineru

This kind of thread make me hate ACE once again in knowing, to somedegree, they have made the team disband :/

這篇文章又點燃了我對ACE的恨意,某種意義上是ACE導致了Wings的解散:/

str_d2

Fuck man Ifucking miss Wings so fucking much.

Go to hellACE bastards

F*ck~~我太特么想Wings了!

下地獄吧,ACE

Mjforn

The true"generation of miracles".

Usually udraft based on the strat you have in mind but that"s not how they draft.

They justliterally choose which hero they think is better on the current scenario thenexecute it perfectly.

They arethe proof that dota 2 is all about execution and teamwork.

Wings是真正的「奇蹟一代」

通常人都是按照自己腦海中的戰術來Ban選,但Wings卻不這麼想。

他們就選一些他們認為在當下情形下更好發揮的英雄,然後將其作用發揮到極致。

他們證明了執行力和團隊協作是Dota的靈魂。

WUMIBO

They didn"tgive a shit about having favorite heroes, they picked heroes that exploitedweaknesses of their enemies" heroes, regardless of how out-of-meta the herowas.

Watchingthem draft was weird.

They wouldfind a way to use heroes people forgot about to shut down their opponent"spicks.

I thinkthey had a huge influence on the current meta.

Before TI6,patches had their light and dark spots.

Some heroeswere straight up bad and some strategies were straight up bad, most teamsplayed accordingly and fought over meta heroes.

Wingsdidn"t give a shit, the way they drafted, it was like they used the hero poolas a toolbox and grabbed whatever they needed for the job.

Sometimeswhen you see teams do this, their gameplay suffers and they look uncomfortableon their heroes, etc. Wings were fucking impeccable.

Everythingfrom their teamfights, high ground defense, itemization, pushes, and ganks hadthis crisp, neat, calm and collected feel about it.

And thisteam was so bad most of the year, they got dead last at Manila Major.

It was likethe flip of a switch comparing their year to their run just before and at TI6.

Captainslike EE and PPD talked about drafting against them, they were just baffled anddidn"t know what to ban against them.

Since then,I think more heroes have been picked at tournaments, and we saw a variety ofplay styles at TI7 that were all viable.

他們絲毫不在乎自己有沒有最喜歡的英雄,所選擇的英雄都是沖著對手英雄的弱點而來的,不管這個英雄有多不適合現在的版本。

看Wings的Ban選太特么詭異了。

他們選擇那些被人遺忘的英雄,想辦法發揮他們的作用,從而完全克制對手的陣容。

我想Wings會對如今的版本產生巨大影響。

Ti6之前,一代版本一代神。

有些英雄髒的不行,有些戰術也髒的不行,所有的戰隊都在圍繞著版本大熱英雄打。

Wings不以為然,他們的英雄池就像個工具箱,需要什麼就隨手抄起什麼。

當你看到其他戰隊這麼做的時候,他們的遊戲體驗往往極差,對自己的英雄也極不順手。但Wings就是特么的無懈可擊。

他們的團戰、高地防禦、出裝、推進和gank都給人一種乾淨利落、遊刃有餘的感覺。

但這隻隊伍今年的大部分時間都掙扎在生死邊緣,終於在馬尼拉特錦賽後撒手人寰。

Ti6前後,這支隊伍簡直判若兩人。

EE和PPD這樣的團隊領袖曾對針對Wings的Ban選有過這樣的評價,感覺全程一臉懵逼,不知道該Ban啥來針對他們。

自那以後,在各項錦標賽中,更多的英雄得到了出場機會,我們也得以在Ti7上看到更風格更加豐富的比賽。

Godisme2

They couldplay any hero.

Most teamsyou know what to ban against them as they have a core set of heroes they like.

Wings didnthave that.

They playedevery hero and every hero in different roles.

Most teamswere at a complete loss as to what to ban against them as they didn"t even playthe op meta heroes most of the time and pulled out random strategies that weresuper fun to watch.

他們所有英雄都能打。

許多戰隊都有自己的一套核心陣容和英雄,你知道該Ban哪些英雄來針對他們。

而Wings卻沒有。

他們幾乎所有英雄都拿過,並且用他們打過所有位置。

大多數隊伍對陣Wings的時候,在Ban選階段就經歷滑鐵盧,因為Wings多數情況下不會拿版本熱門英雄,他們的戰術非常隨機,這也讓他們的比賽很有觀賞性。

Youthsonic 回復 Godisme2

Yeah a lotof times I"m sure most teams know what counters what, but Wings would actuallypick it.

In theoryWing"s draft counters EG"s step by step but it still looks pretty wonky andreally hard to pull off against an easier draft (in theory).

But wingsis wings and they eventually stomped EG after losing the early game prettyhandily.

Same withthe second game now that I"ve rewatched it.

Wing"sdraft makes zero sense and looks really hard to pull off, but they do itbecause they have 100% trust in each other.

Edit: fucklook at that rosh fight in the second game.

Wings hadto chain like three abilities together to take sumail down.

Team washonestly nuts.

同意,好多時候我確信多數戰隊對英雄相生相剋心知肚明,但Wings恰恰喜歡反其道而行。

理論上來說Wings的Ban選每一步都壓制了EG,但看起來他們的陣容十分牽強,很難與EG穩健的陣容相抗衡(只是理論上)。

但Wings就是Wings,在比賽前期經歷小小挫折之後最終把EG摁在地上摩擦。

看了第二遍之後,我發現第二局形勢也基本如此。

Wings的Ban選看似毫無章法,看起來搖搖欲墜,他們敢於這麼做因為隊員彼此之間100%的信任。

插一句:吐血推薦你們去看看第二場比賽Roshan處的團戰。

Wings的隊員使用三個技能的連環Combo爆了Sumail的菊花。

這瘋狗般的團隊協作。

EternalFaII回復 Youthsonic

I clickedthat link and looked at the draft and...

EG WinterWyvern in match 2.

Of coursethey lost the series.

我點進了你給的鏈接,看了Ban選,怎麼說呢...

看見EG在第二場中拿了寒冬飛龍。

我就知道他們輸定了。


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