喬丹稱讚倫納德為最好的攻守兼備球員！但後者還在不斷進化！

喬丹稱讚倫納德為最好的攻守兼備球員！但後者還在不斷進化！

Michael Jordan calls Kawhi Leonard "Best 2-way player in the game" (poundingtherock.com)

邁克爾-喬丹稱科懷-倫納德是「比賽中最好的攻守兼備的球員」。

[–]Raptorspleasefeedthedino 1068 指標 13小時前

Anthony Davis is the only other All-Defense selection who is also a prolific scorer (say >25ppg). Throw in LeBron and KD, then CP3, and you have a solid 1st team All-2-Way.

PG, Buckets, Giannis are all up there too.

除了倫納德，安東尼-戴維斯是另外唯一一名入選最佳防守陣容，同時又是名高產得分手（場均得分>25）的球員。再加上詹姆斯、杜蘭特，還有保羅，這樣就組成了一個出色的最佳攻守兼備第一陣容了。

除此之外，喬治、巴特勒、字母哥也都有能力入選。

[–]Heatfuturemo 313 指標 12小時前

Yeah that"s solid I guess

沒錯，這個陣容我覺得可以。

[–]PelicansPattyMaHeisman 128 指標 11小時前

I feel like that lineup would also have really good chemistry, like if they were a Team USA lineup. It would be awesome to see that lineup in 2020 if LeBron and CP3 make it that long.

我覺得這個陣容同時也會有相當不錯的化學反應，他們就像是美國夢之隊的陣容一樣。要是能在2020年（奧運會）看到這個陣容就真的太棒了，前提是如果詹姆斯和保羅能把狀態保持那麼長時間的話。

[–][CHA] Muggsy Boguesarktic_P 90 指標 10小時前

I feel sure that LeBron will be playing at a high level until then, if not even well past that. Many of his skills like his passing abilities and vision and BBIQ will always be useful, no matter what age he is.

我敢肯定，就算勒布朗不能在2020年之後仍然保持如此狀態，但在奧運會之前他肯定能夠保持在一個相當高的水平打球的。他的許多技巧，例如傳球能力、視野還有籃球智商總是十分有用的，不論他年齡多大。

[–][PHI] Manute BolCoryeavesap 358 指標 13小時前

Klay Thompson 6th man.

克萊-湯普森來打第六人。

[–]Cavaliers Bandwagongroovyt0ny 96 指標 12小時前

Spicy

這陣容太華麗了。

[–]PutMyShibaInU 25 指標 9小時前

Idk Paul George would probably fight for it

我不知道，但是保羅-喬治可能會為這個第六人的位置而奮鬥的。

[–]76erslardbiscuits 134 指標 11小時前

Except LeBron doesn"t play defense anymore in the regular season...

只是現在詹姆斯在常規賽里再也不防守了……

[–]Sixers BandwagonInmyheaditsoundedok 158 指標 10小時前

I fully understand him, as a Lebron stan nothing infuritates me more than that everytime the guy rests, the cavs roster suddenly forgets how to play and give the other teams ridicilous leads.

Lebron is soon 33 years old and he can"t play 40+ minutes both defensively and offensively for 75+ games. Also this season showed us clearly that he can not leave the court more than 10- minutes without embracing a lose.

我完全能夠理解他，每次老詹一休息，騎士其他人突然就忘了怎麼打球，然後讓別的球隊取得巨大的領先，作為詹姆斯的鐵粉，沒什麼比這讓我更生氣的了。

詹姆斯馬上就要33歲了，他再也不能在75場以上的比賽中，攻防兩端都拼盡全力並每場打40多分鐘。同時，這個賽季也很清楚的向我們展示了，勒布朗是不能休息十分鐘以上而騎士還不用輸球的。

[–]RaptorsHankscorpio17 14 指標 8小時前

A common misconception, he rates out higher by drpm than Leonard and KD.

說他常規賽不防守是一種常見的錯誤觀點，詹姆斯比倫納德和杜蘭特的防守真實正負（DRPM）要更高。

[–]NBALazybyNature 26 指標 8小時前

Keep in mind, though, that these guys have different defensive assignments. I don"t think KD or LeBron are asked to guard as wide a range of players. Kawhi regularly guards PG through PF to my knowledge. LeBron is fully capable of this, and we"e seen it in the past. But I think he shoulders too much of an offensive load for the team to ask him to guard the toughest assignment every night.

但你還是要記住，這些傢伙的防守任務是不同的。我不覺得杜蘭特或者詹姆斯會被要求去防守好幾個位置的球員。據我所知，倫納德經常要從控衛防到大前鋒。儘管詹姆斯完全能做到這一點，我們在以前也見過他這麼做。但我覺得現在他肩負的球隊進攻壓力太重了，以至於不能強求他每場比賽都要去防守對面的箭頭人物。

[–]Spurssleal 699 指標 13小時前

Whether you agree with it or not, it don"t matter. Kawhi will never speak out, he just puts it all out on the court. Every year he somehow gets better at something. Soon we will all be witnesses

不管你同不同意這個說法，那都不重要。倫納德是絕對不會這麼說的，他只會在場上傾盡全力。每年他都會以某種方法在某個方面變得更好，很快我們所有人都將會成為見證者。

[–][HOU] James Hardenvvague 34 指標 9小時前

He doesn"t just get better at SOMETHING, gets better at almost everything

他變得更好的不僅僅是某！個！方！面！而是在幾乎所有方面都變得更好了。

[–]Lakersimpactblue5 25 指標 7小時前

I"ll admit, watching him while at SDSU I knew he was special, but Finals MVP, league MVP contender, and getting blessed by the GOAT? Proud of this kid.

這點我得承認，看他在聖地亞哥州立大學打球的時候我就知道他與眾不同，但是總決賽MVP？聯盟MVP的有力競爭者？被史上最偉大的球員點名表揚？這些我是真的沒想過，真的為這孩子感到自豪。

[–]Spursspursaustralia 446 指標 12小時前

Kawhi has been top 3 in MVP and DPOY votes the last two years, it"s pretty clear that he"s the best 2 way player.

過去兩年中，倫納德在MVP和DPOY投票中都排在前三名，很明顯他就是最好的攻守兼備的球員。

[–][HOU] James Hardenjameshardenisjacked 101 指標 10小時前

Yeah I"m not sure why people are acting like LeBron is still an elite defender. He"s good on defense but not Kawhi good

沒錯，我不太明白為什麼人們表現得就好像詹姆斯還是一個精英級的防守球員一樣。他的防守確實很好，但是還沒好到倫納德那個程度。

[–]Rocketsstrippersinspace 66 指標 10小時前

I"d still say LeBron is unarguably a top five two-way player but Kawhi is number one.

我仍然會認為詹姆斯是攻守兼備的球員中最好的前五人之一，這是無可爭議的，但最好的那個人叫做倫納德。

[–]Mdgt_Pope 1236 指標 14小時前

Just a small note that LeBron is signed by Nike while Kawhi is sponsored by Jumpman, so it behooves MJ to support the star his brand is actively sponsoring.

只是個小提示：詹姆斯簽約的是耐克，而倫納德是喬老爺子旗下的球員，所以幫主支持他品牌簽約的球員是理所當然的。

[–]BaldVoldy 322 指標 14小時前

Doesn"t Nike own Jumpman?

AJ不也是耐克旗下的品牌嗎？

[–]Mdgt_Pope 516 指標 13小時前

Yes. So it makes sense for Nike to support both, but Nike"s success on its own brand doesn"t help Jordan make money with his brand.

是的，所以耐克支持他們兩個是有道理的，但是耐克在它自身品牌取得的成功，並不會幫助喬老爺子自己的品牌來賺錢的。

[–][POR] Geoff PetrieTheGourmet9 316 指標 11小時前

Lol Jordan"s answer to every question like this is someone signed to Jordan

呵呵，每次被問到類似於這樣的問題，喬丹的答案都是某個和他品牌簽約的球員。

[–]DoughnutDrake 228 指標 11小時前

It"s like he understands brand power.

好像他懂得了品牌影響力的重要。

[–]Raptorspleasefeedthedino 78 指標 14小時前

I doubt that enters his mind when answering a question at a kids camp.

在一個對孩子們的訓練營上回答問題時喬丹居然會想到這一點？我對此深感懷疑。

[–]Warriorsdvasquez93 525 指標 13小時前

That"s why you"ll never be at Jordan"s level as a competitor. Never. Pass up. Opportunities.

那就是為什麼作為競爭對手，你永遠不能達到喬丹的境界的原因。他絕！不！放！過！機！會！

[–]SpursMoltk 478 指標 12小時前

Kobe got it half right.

科比能做到上面這句話的一半。

【注】雙關，既指好勝心，也在黑科比Never Pass。

[–]MibuWolve 62 指標 13小時前

That"s why he only praises Westbrook and Kawhi mostly... 

那就是為什麼喬丹表揚最多的只有威少和倫納德……

[–]Spurssiphillis 64 指標 11小時前

The only weakness in Kawhi"s game is his passing, and he averaged more assists in the playoffs than Kevin Durant, with obviously far less help. If I need a stop AND a bucket, accept no substitute.

倫納德在比賽中唯一的弱項就是他的傳球，而他在季後賽中的場均助攻比杜蘭特還多，這還是他受到的幫助明顯更少的情況下。如果我需要防下來一個回合後再進一個球，（除了倫納德）我不會選別的人的。

[–]Lakersdevranog 225 指標 14小時前

I don"t understand this 2-way shit, if your the best 2-way player that should mean you are the best player.

我不是太明白這個「攻防兼備」的辣雞說法，如果你是攻防兩端表現最好的球員，那就應該意味著你是最好的球員。

[–][TOR] Hakeem OlajuwonStephCurryToTheCavs 503 指標 14小時前*

Not necessarily

You can have the best balance of the two but another guy can excel greatly in one while being slightly worse than you at the other

不一定是這樣的。

你可以在攻防兩端取得最好的平衡，而另一個球員可以在球場的一端比你好得多，而在另一端比你稍微弱一些。

[–]NBANeosporinPapi 33 指標 14小時前

This. Offense is undeniably more important than defense in the NBA, and LeBrons a lot better than Leonard offensively. If I had to put a number on it I"d say it"s like a 70-30 ratio as far as importance.

這樣啊，不可否認的是，如今的NBA中進攻比防守重要得多，而在進攻端詹姆斯比倫納德要好得多。至於攻防兩端各自的重要性，如果非要拿個數字來說明的話，我覺得大概七三開吧。

[–]NBANeosporinPapi 70 指標 14小時前

I don"t really know how they measure that, but as far as individual players I look at it like this:

Guys like James Harden, Kyrie, etc. with elite offense and shitty defense are max-contract stars in the NBA

Guys like Tony Allen, Pat Bev, etc. with elite defense and sub-par/shitty offense are nothing more than valued (albeit still highly) role players.

我真的不知道他們是怎麼計算出這（攻防重要性比例）一點的，但是就球員個人來說，我是這樣看的：

像哈登、歐文等等這樣，進攻出色而防守辣雞的球員，他們是在NBA中拿頂薪的明星。

像托尼-阿倫、貝弗利等等這樣，有著精英級別的防守，進攻卻在平均水平以下或者更辣雞的球員，不過只是有價值（雖然還很高）的角色球員而已。

[–]Angelicaaaaa1 3 指標 5小時前

Kawhi Leonard just like Tim Duncan, low-profile and extremely diligent. Each time back from the summer training camp, he always brings surprises to us. Expect the more powerful Leonard comes back from summer training.

科懷-倫納德和蒂姆-鄧肯一樣，為人低調，又非常勤奮。每次從夏季訓練營回來，倫納德都會為我們帶來驚喜。我期待著今年倫納德從夏季訓練歸來之後變得更強。

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