不止欧文，巴克利、张伯伦等都申请过交易，生意而已，无可厚非

不止欧文，巴克利、张伯伦等都申请过交易，生意而已，无可厚非

Ron Harper on Kyrie"s trade Request: "Youth. Ignorance." ... "[in the] old-school days, when a guy asked to get traded, you traded him to the sorriest team. That"s the way it worked."

罗恩-哈珀对欧文请求交易有自己的看法：“年轻、无知…在老派篮球年代，一个球员要是请求交易的话，他会被交易到最垃圾的球队去。当时就是这样。”

[–]Celtics17461863372823734930 2378 指標 10小時前 

Like when Barkley got traded to the freaking Rockets?

就像巴克利请求交易后被送到TMD火箭一样？

[–]dean_strang 1647 指標 10小時前 

Also, Wilt demanded a trade and got shipped to the Lakers.

还有，张伯伦请求交易后被送到湖人。

[–]Celtics17461863372823734930 729 指標 10小時前 

And KAJ.

还有贾巴尔也是被送到了湖人。

[–]Bucks BandwagonSidMoncrief 447 指標 9小時前 

with KAJ it was about racism and all that, dont have nothin to do with this.

贾巴尔当年是因为种族歧视那些事，跟不想在球队打了没什么关系。

[–]Bucks BandwagonSidMoncrief 203 指標 8小時前* 

definitely, Kareem did us a huge favor by tellin us he gonna walk and lettin us get stuff for him. he sacrificed a lot with that cause the Lakers would have been a great team right off the bat if he just signed there. Kareem also always shouts Milwaukee fans as great folk, i got mad love for Kareem.

and he got us a ring. nothin but love for him.

雄鹿球迷：贾巴尔当年帮了我们大忙，做出了很大的牺牲。他本可以直接跟湖人签约，使湖人不损失即战力马上变成豪华球队。但是他选择通知我们他会离开球队，让我们有机会做交易换回点东西。贾巴尔还经常提起密尔沃基的球迷，称我们为好人，而且他还为我们拿下一个冠军，我爱死贾巴尔了。

[–]Vancouver Grizzliesenigmaticevil 720 指標 9小時前 

"It’s always going to be a two- or three-star team,” Harper said of Irving and the Cavs. “You’re never going to be a guy who carries your team. You see when LeBron doesn’t play, you don’t carry the team.”

Savage.

哈珀的原话：“骑士永远都会是两个或者三个球星的队伍。欧文你是永远不会成为带领球队前进的那个领袖的，因为勒布朗不打的时候你根本无法扛起球队前进。”

太狠了。

[–]zero7nine 334 指標 9小時前 

Haha, but such a relevant point... "Irving was the first overall pick in 2011, but the Cavs went 78-152 in his first three seasons following the departure of James for Miami. In the three seasons since James returned in 2014, the Cavs are 4-23 when James hasn’t played."

哈哈哈珀瞎讲什么大实话。“欧文是2011年状元秀，但是詹姆斯离开骑士前往热火后，他带领骑士在头三个赛季取得了78胜152负的败绩。而从詹姆斯回归的2014年到2017年，詹姆斯休战时骑士的战绩也仅为4胜23负。”

[–]Timberwolvespwnetah 187 指標 8小時前 

Towns has never led his team to a winning record and he has another number 1 pick on the roster. Young players are seldom big difference makers in their early years. And the current Cavs teams are pretty much tailored to work with LeBron. You take out the centerpiece, of course it"s not gonna work well.

在唐斯的带领下，森林狼从未取得胜多负少的常规赛战绩，而唐斯身边还有一个状元秀呢。年轻的球员在职业生涯早期是很难带领球队获胜的，而且现在的骑士队也是为了詹姆斯打造的。基石不打的话，骑士当然不会成功。

[–]Warriorscantkeepdickinpants 172 指標 8小時前 

love without lebron is an elite power forward. and cleveland is chock full of shooters. any other superstar would make it work. i cant imagine cp3 or kd or someone wouldnt be able to go better than 4-23

詹姆斯不打，乐福一样是一个精英大前锋，而且骑士充满了射手。除了欧文外任何一个超巨都会利用好这个阵容的。你敢信保罗、杜兰特这样的球员会带出4胜23负的战绩？

[–][POR] Geoff PetrieTheGourmet9 27 指標 7小時前 

I don"t care what it"s built for a team with Kyrie, Love and all those role players is still more talented than half the league.

我根本不在乎骑士的阵容是不是为欧文打造的，因为乐福+剩余的角色球员依然比大半个联盟都有天赋。

[–]Lakersositola 1344 指標 10小時前 

Back in Ron"s day you could get your daily wage of .30 cents , take a girl out to the picture show and a five course steak dinner , then still have .12 left over to take the taxi cab home

在罗恩-哈珀打球那会，你下班领完一天30美分的工资后带妞去看场电影、吃顿带五道菜的牛排晚餐后还能剩下12美分打车回家。

[–]rustyphish 635 指標 9小時前 

And all five courses were steaks because we weren"t PUSSIES. These kids today, what with they"re "eating healthy"...die of heart disease at 40 like a man!

而且五道菜都是牛排，因为我们可不是娘们！现在的孩子啊，什么健康饮食，都是扯淡，就应该像我们那时候一样，40岁时死于心脏病，纯爷们！

译者注：讽刺老派球员和老一代的人厚古薄今。

[–]Pullitis 94 指標 8小時前 

It"s funny because when you look at pictures of people from back then they were a lot less fat than us, maybe there is something to all this steak gobbling? Does McDonald"s have steaks yet?

有趣。你看过去人的照片会发现他们比现在的人要瘦多了，可能牛排狂热真有一定的道理呢？麦当劳现在卖牛排不？

[–]PistonsAlcoholicInsomniac 110 指標 8小時前 

Haven"t looked into it but I imagine a lot of it is just ease of access now, food is everywhere and within reach at any given time and that just wasn"t the case before.

我没有做过研究，但是我觉得主要是因为现在食物太多了，遍地都是，很容易吃到。而过去不是这样。

[–]Cavaliershellyeah222  259 指標 8小時前 

It"s sugar. The World has been brainwashed to think fats are the unhealthy thing to eat, while sugar is showed down our throats.

是糖的锅。全世界已经被洗脑了，觉得脂肪是不健康的，而对糖分却无所顾忌。

译者注：之前曝光哈佛的学者收钱为糖份背书。

[–]Thunderfear_and_loafing 107 指標 9小時前 

Yeah, I think it"s funny when guys like Ron Harper or Charles Oakley come out saying "oh, we didn"t do that in my day."

No, you didn"t because if you tried pulling that shit the FO would have laughed in your face and traded your ass to Vancouver. Super stars have been doing this shit forever, it"s called leveraging for a better situation. It"s not a new thing.

所以每次哈珀或者奥克利这样的球员站出来说什么“我们过去可不这样干”的时候我就想笑。

你们不这么干是因为你们要是这么干的话管理层会当你们面笑出声来，然后就把你们送到温哥华去。超巨一直都这么干，这个叫做利用筹码为自己争取利益，不是什么新鲜事了。

[–]Pelicanserldn123 160 指標 10小時前 

you traded him to the sorriest team. That"s the way it worked.

Well that hasn"t changed......we already know Kyrie is probably going to the Knicks.

“请求交易的球员会被送到最垃圾的队。当时就是这样。”

额这一点没有改变啊，我们都知道欧文很可能会被交易到尼克斯去。

[–][MIN] Andrew WigginsXO_For_Llif3 403 指標 10小時前 

Lemme guess, you also made him walk uphill with no shoes through a lake of fire while it was snowing and -130 degrees to get to his new team

我没猜错的话，老一派还会让请求交易的球员在雪天光脚穿过火海、在零下130度的低温下到达新的球队吧。

[–][CLE] Shaquille O"NealNaywe 113 指標 10小時前 

So, through pheonix to toronto?

所以也就是穿过菲尼克斯到多伦多呗？

[–]OKC HornetsBRONNY_ASSHAIR5 423 指標 10小時前 

lmao of course he gotta beat his dick off to the old school era

笑死我了，哈珀就成天对着老派篮球年代撸管吧。

[–]MainBattleFrank 176 指標 8小時前 

When a team trades a player it"s "just business" but when a player wants to leave he"s suddenly an asshole?

当一个球队交易球员的时候就是生意，而球员想要离开的时候他就是混蛋了？

[–]Vancouver Grizzliesenigmaticevil 69 指標 7小時前 

I think there are plenty of instances where the team was the asshole. Is this one of those? Kyrie has a great role in a team full of talent that"s been to the NBA final three consecutive years.

If he gets his wish and is traded, he will never see that consistency of success ever again. If he"s happy with that, power to him.

我觉得有很多情形下球队才是混蛋。但是这属于那种情形吗？欧文在一支充满天赋的球队里扮演重要的角色，并连续三年打入总决赛。

如果他美梦成真，成功被交易。他永远不会看到现在能在骑士取得的这种稳定持续的成功了。如果他还对此感到幸福，那就棒棒的吧。

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