萊利認為歐文是僅次於庫里的雙向純控衛，他看穿一切還是糊塗了？

萊利認為歐文是僅次於庫里的雙向純控衛，他看穿一切還是糊塗了？

帕特-萊利：「庫里是如今最好的控衛，我認為，歐文是緊隨其後的那個雙向的（攻防兼備的）純控衛，而騎士失去了他。我們（熱火）看到了機會，因為東區現在沒有勇士、馬刺、火箭這樣有統治力的球隊了，我們會在可行之時抓住機會的。」

Pat Riley: "Cleveland lost who I thought was next to Steph Curry, the best true point guard both ways in Kyrie Irving. We see an opportunity because there isn』t a Golden State in our conference or San Antonio or Houston. We will take advantage if we can."

[–][NYK] Kristaps PorzingisStartedasalittleW 982 指標 11小時前

Yeah good luck taking down Cleveland, Pat.

嗯，幹掉騎士？祝你好運吧萊利。

[–]NBAzxc123zxc123 200 指標 9小時前*

This year, but what if LeBron really leaves for LA afterwards? Pat Riley is one of those puppet master guys that play the long game and doesn"t worry/think/speak about single seasons. So he"s might be speaking about the long term.

今年的話是比較困難，但如果下個賽季詹姆斯去了湖人呢？萊利是那種下大棋的人，不會擔心/在意/談及單單一兩個賽季。所以他可能是從長期角度出發的說的這番話。

NBA has become more "never say never" than ever before. Things we imagine would never happen keep happening:

LBJ. A franchise super star leaving his franchise to form a super team.

Then forming another super team bailing on Pat/Wade/Bosh (except media loved him the 2nd time around)

NBA現在的變數是史無前例的大，永遠不要下定論。我們怎麼也想不到的事一直在變為現實。

比如，建隊基石詹姆斯離開了自己的王國，組成了超級球隊。

而之後又拋棄了萊利、韋德還有波什，組建了另一支超級球隊。（不過這一次媒體是站在他這一邊的）

Tim Duncan retires

KD joining a 73-9 championship-caliber team that he himself just lost 3-1 to

Kyrie leaving the still-best-player-in-the-world in Lebron. 3D chessing Lebron"s 2D checkers game.

鄧肯退役了。

杜蘭特加入了一支73勝9負的冠軍級別球隊，而且在季後賽的時候他曾經丟掉了對這支球隊保持的三比一領先優勢。

歐文離開了世界上最好的球員，將了詹姆斯一軍。

This adding on how team owners, GM"s, and players have all been embolden by necessity. Either scrambling to build something in response to the warriors dominance or throwing away talent and tanking for the future instead.

TL;DR Anything is possible (aka Lebron might leave East)

而且現在的球隊老闆、經理以及球員們都屈服於恐怖的現實，那就是要麼這劃拉點那劃拉點資產，建立一支有競爭力的球隊來應對勇士的強大統治，要麼白白送走本隊的優秀球員，開始擺爛，為了未來走準備。

總結一下：沒什麼不可能的，而詹姆斯也可能離開東部。

[–][LAL] Nick YoungJeanRalfio 121 指標 8小時前

I would love for him to go to the Lakers but I don"t see it. Why would he go to the stacked west when he can keep dad-dicking the east.

湖人球迷：詹姆斯來湖人我舉雙手歡迎，但是我不知道他為什麼要來啊。在東部詹姆斯能一直一家獨霸，為什麼要來兵強馬壯的西部呢？

[–]Netsj_cruise 104 指標 8小時前

And there"s not a single shred of evidence to support the claim that he"s going to the Lakers.

而且現在沒有任何證據證明詹姆斯會來湖人。

[–][CHI] Bobby Portissd6_ 631 指標 10小時前

Kyrie Irving is the best true point guard after Curry, both ways? What? Did CP3 and John Wall die or something?

歐文是身居庫里之後的那個攻防兼備的純控衛？啥？保羅和沃爾死了？

[–][HOU] Nene HilarioThatbrasiliankid 394 指標 11小時前

Pat getting dementia if he thinks kyrie is a two way pg

萊利要是真的認為歐文是個雙向控衛的話，他恐怕失了智。

[–]76erstimacles 73 指標 9小時前

He means backwards and forwards in time. Which is a misconception anyway

他說的是時間上的前進與後退，而時間是個錯誤概念。[譯註1]

[譯註1]歐文之前在road trippin電台上說過時間是個錯誤的概念，被reddit網友瘋狂調侃。

[–]Buckscbar27 223 指標 10小時前

Maybe he meant dribbling and shooting

萊利可能說的是運球和投籃這兩個方向吧…

[–]BucksPoland_Was_Taken 282 指標 9小時前

nonono, your misunderstanding the quote. What he means is that on offence, kyrie can go one way or.... he can go the other way! he can go both ways! i"d trade for that guy immediately

不不不，你理解錯啦！萊利說的雙向是這個意思：在進攻端，歐文能往這邊走，而且，他能往另一邊走哦！所以他是雙向控衛！要換我是球隊老闆，我砸鍋賣鐵也得換來這樣一個純控衛，哈哈。

[–]Spurs Bandwagonsmileywaters 39 指標 8小時前

He swings both ways

不如說歐文的二八能朝兩邊甩。

[–]Eastmikextaylor 59 指標 10小時前

I agree with you, but I think it"s fair to say that Pat Riley is a much better judge of talent than us and the rest of this sub.

我同意你的觀點，但是我覺得，萊利要比我們這些JR更了解球員的天賦。

[–]CavaliersIm-A-W1zard 117 指標 10小時前

"Pat Riley is a much better judge of talent than us" Yes but it doesnt take a basketball genius to know hes wrong

對，但是稍微懂點球的球迷都知道萊利這句話大錯特錯。

[–]Heatfangdynasty23 1369 指標 11小時前

At this point I feel like Pat Riley cares more about throwing shade at LeBron and the Cavs and improving the Heat

就現在而言，相比提高熱火的水平，萊利更在意沒事損詹姆斯和騎士幾句。

[–][DAL] Yi Jianlianjackmakesblackjacks 241 指標 10小時前

I don"t get why? He won them two rings man

為啥啊？詹姆斯可是為熱火贏得兩個冠軍。

[–]Lakersstarshiprochester 513 指標 10小時前

Pat has a massive ego and Lebron bruised it by leaving.

Doesn"t matter that Lebron joined him on his own volition too, Pat thinks that"s only sensible because of what a great boss he is.

萊利其實是個很自負的人，而詹姆斯的離開一定程度上傷害到了他的自尊心。

哎，當初詹姆斯可是自願來到萊利麾下的，而萊利覺得自己是個出色的老闆，詹姆斯來投奔自己太正常不過了。

[–]Heat BandwagonMiaCannons 130 指標 10小時前*

I think what played a bigger role than LeBron leaving was that he left relatively late in Pat"s eyes which didn"t give us a chance to go after premiere FAs to replace him.

EDIT: Also probably because Bron kept Riley in the dark for so long, Riley likely felt he atleast deserved a heads up.

熱火球迷：我覺得在這件事上起到更大影響的是，萊利認為詹姆斯離開的時機有些晚，影響到了熱火後續針對他走後的補強。

修改：而且可能是因為詹姆斯在離開前一直沒有跟萊利交流，萊利可能覺得他最起碼應該知會自己一聲。

[–]KnicksBattleofAlgiers 132 指標 9小時前

Riley likely felt he atleast deserved a heads up.

Coming from a Knicks fan, Riley is a fucking hypocrite.

尼克斯球迷：萊利覺得別人應該提前知會自己一聲？他tm真虛偽啊。[譯註2]

[譯註2]萊利當年為尼克斯的總經理，但是在暗示自己將留隊後出人意料地辭職（要求5年5000萬美元的合同和球隊25%的股份，尼克斯沒有滿足），最後是通過傳真告訴的球隊，打了尼克斯一個措手不及。

[–]MibuWolve 43 指標 9小時前

Pat fucked up in the summer of 2013. Dude didn』t retool the team at all.. instead he got a broken down Oden and an immature Beasley while the rest of the team aged.

在2013年休賽期，萊利徹底搞砸了。他根本沒有補強球隊，找來了一個球都打不上的奧登和不成熟的比斯利，而且整體本來就年齡偏大的球隊又老了一歲。

[–]Cavaliers2uneek 33 指標 9小時前

and the mike miller amnesty really pissed off the players, it was cheap as fuck... They were being tight wads with a once in a generation chance to run the league...

而且熱火特赦了麥克-米勒，這真的惹怒了當時的熱火球員，太tm摳門了吧。熱火眼睜睜看著一統聯盟這個幾十年一遇的機會白白流走。

[–][PHI] Andre IguadalaDoctorDeebo 723 指標 11小時前

best true point guard who goes iso every time he touches the ball and plays very very very mediocre defense

最好的純控衛每次拿到球就單打，而且防守平平？

[–][CHA] Dante CunninghamBizGilwalker 416 指標 11小時前

Mediocre is generous tbh

防守平平是對歐文防守水平的誇獎。

[–]Bullsboxmakingmachines 38 指標 10小時前

Kyrie gets a bunch of crap about his (admittedly subpar) defense. Would you say IT is just a big of a defensive liability for the Cavs now

歐文因為防守的問題經常被人批評（我承認，確實低於平均水平），但是現在騎士的小托馬斯在防守端難道不是同樣的累贅嗎？

[–]SpursIveMadeAYugeMistake 202 指標 10小時前

Of course he is. He gives up 5 inches on nearly everyone he guards. He"s probably worse than Kyrie on average and definitely worse if Kyrie is giving a real effort. Doesn"t mean Kyrie should be praised for playing "both ways"

小托馬斯當然是了，基本上，他防守的每個人都比他高個15厘米。一般來看，小托馬斯的防守要比歐文糟糕一些，如果歐文專心投入到防守中去的話，兩個人就更沒得比了。但是這並不代表歐文是個雙向（攻防兼備的）控衛。

[–]WarriorsTortadeMilanesa 131 指標 11小時前

What does Pat think a "true" point guard is?

萊利眼中的純控衛定義是什麼？

[–]Trail Blazersjessedogg 49 指標 11小時前

He is literally the the furtherest (thats not a word fuck) thing from a pure point guard. No really, someone give me an example of a point guard being further from John Stockton?

Fuck he hates LeBron.

歐文真的是跟純控衛最八竿子打不著的那個人。有人能給我講講斯托克頓以外的純控衛都有誰嗎？

萊利是真的恨勒布朗入骨啊。

[–]NuggetsLew_AIcindor 73 指標 11小時前

What even is a true point guard? Would Curry even qualify? He has led his team in FGA the last 5 or so seasons.

到底啥是純控衛啊？庫里也不能算吧？過去五個多賽季，庫里的出手數一直是隊內第一。

[–][HOU] Nene HilarioThatbrasiliankid 121 指標 11小時前

Honestly the only real "true" point guards would be someone like cp3, rubio, and rondo. Pass first who don"t rely on scoring to make an impact

說實話，能稱得上純控衛的只有保羅、盧比奧和隆多這類球員。不依靠得分來造成殺傷的、傳球第一的控衛是純控衛。

[–][GSW] Jason RichardsonDanerysFlacco 54 指標 11小時前

"True" point guards usually scored low volum on good-great efficiency though which Rubio and Rondo do not do

通常來講，純控衛的出手次數不高，但效率很高，而盧比奧和隆多可不是這樣。

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