科比退役後對現役球員讚賞有佳悉心指導，為何與巴克利們畫風不同？
科比退役後對現役球員讚賞有佳悉心指導，為何與巴克利們畫風不同？
大部分老一代球員都對現在這代嗤之以鼻。而科比這個素有冷血殺手、老派作風名聲的男人不僅不吐槽，反而利用自己的媒體平台和最新的電視節目[譯註1]來稱讚現役球員們。
[譯註1][美國JRs之聲]科比即將主持籃球分析節目，超高籃球智商渾厚聲線讓美JRs翹首以待>>
Most older players tend to bash the current generation. It"s interesting that Kobe, reputed as one of the most cutthroat players with an "old school" mentality has done nothing but use his media platform and now a new TV show to talk about how awesome current players are.
I haven"t seen people comment too much on this but difference between how Kobe and other retirees have approached retirement in their attitude toward the current game is quite striking to me. The ink hadn"t dried on Paul Pierce"s retirement papers before he started taking shots at Lebron and whoever else from his ESPN desk, following in the footsteps of Barkley, et. al. Even players like T-mac, criticized in their day for being soft, drops the "in my day" every chance he gets on The Jump.
湖人球迷：我沒怎麼見過大家提到這一點，但是科比和其他退役球員對現役球員的態度簡直天壤之別。TNT的巴克利等人開了這個先河，而接下吐槽大旗的皮爾斯退役沒兩天就開始在ESPN上開黑詹姆斯和其他球員。就連麥迪這個在他打球的年代被詬病太軟的名宿，也有機會就在《Jump》節目上拋出「在我那個年代%@%@%」的說辭。
Kobe, who out of any retired player, would be justified in critiquing current players as soft or entitled or in saying they don"t work as hard as him, just shows love to everybody. Made a video about how awesome Lebron is, even though they were playing rivals, made a video about how awesome IT is, even though he was a Celtic, made a video about how awesome the Warriors are, even though it"s fashionable to hate them. He shows love to both Harden and Westbrook. He"s practically Kyrie"s godfather (wish he"d set the boy straight about the flat earth stuff but basketball wise it seems to be working out for him). He texts Draymond encouragement during the playoffs when they were down 3-1. And is the first guy Kyrie talks to after the Cavaliers come back from 3-1. He has a private dinner with Kyle Kuzma, works out with Gordon Hayward in the offseason, his fingerprints are still all over the league.
可是科比這大兄弟好像有點不走平常路啊。按理說，在所有的退役名宿里，他是相當有資格指責現役球員的軟、不刻苦的。可他不光沒有這樣做， 而且還向每個人示愛。雖然他和老詹按理說是競爭對手，但是還是做了個吹他的視頻。給以前在凱爾特人的IT做了個視頻，哪怕綠軍是他的老對頭。在這個吐槽勇士沒毛病的時代，又做了個吹勇士的視頻。更別說他跟其他球員的關係了。經常給哈登和威少各種鼓勵。差不多算是歐文的教父了（真想讓科比把這孩子奇怪的地球觀改回來，但是籃球方面還不錯嘛）。勇士季後賽1-3落後（雷霆）的時候還給格林發過簡訊鼓勵他，又是歐文在拿下冠軍後第一個聯繫的人。和庫茲馬私下吃過晚飯，和海沃德在休賽期一起訓練。仔細一看，好多現役球員的身上都有科比的印記啊。
Maybe other older players" positive interactions with the current generation are just less publicized, but I really appreciate how Kobe, in his retirement in contrast to other players, has just continue to prove and show his love and support for the game by being positive as opposed to someone like Barkley and other older players who seem to resent the current game. I"m not sure if anyone would have predicted this from Kobe.
也許其他退役球員和現役之間的友好接觸不像科比這樣這麼公開，但是不管怎樣，我真的很佩服和欣賞科比能在退役之後繼續展現對NBA的愛和支持，尤其是和巴克利這種滿嘴跑火車、對當代球星不屑一顧的老球星對比的時候。這樣的科比，當初沒人猜得到吧？
[–]CelticsPartyLikeIts1985 439 指標 5小時前
Anyone else just wish Kobe would start doing audiobooks with this voice? I"d definitely pay to hear some books read by Kobe.
凱爾特人球迷：難道只有我想聽科比朗誦的有聲讀書嘛 我的小金袋已經準備好了。
[–]Knicksblackskull18 52 指標 3小時前
IIRC he"s a huge Asoiaf fan, I"d love to hear him narrate the books.
尼克斯球迷：如果我沒記錯的話，科比好像很喜歡《冰與火之歌》？好想聽他朗誦一下啊。
[–]tormato-juice 51 指標 2小時前
Can he like give GRRM a challenge to finish the damn series?
能不能讓他給喬治-馬丁（《冰與火之歌》作者）個科比挑戰[譯註2]。讓他別太監了趕緊把書寫完。
[譯註2][美國JRs之聲]科比向小托馬斯、德羅贊發起挑戰，字母哥自討苦吃被瘋狂調侃！>>
[–][GSW] Klay Thompsonhoopnerd 11 指標 2小時前
"The Mamba"s Meals" by Kobe Bryant
real meals. feed your killer instinct. you"re welcome.
勇士球迷：『曼巴的菜譜』 ——科比-布萊恩特。
這才叫菜。餵飽你的殺手本能，不客氣。
[–]waresofdaaliens 5 指標 3小時前
lol he definitely has a zen voice
科比的嗓音確實有一種禪學大師的感覺。
[–][ATL] Jamal Crawfordfishfool1978 278 指標 5小時前
I feel like kobe just enjoys the game of basketball. I don"t think he"ll ever hate on a generation of players. Especially if the players get more skilled.
老鷹球迷：我覺得科比只是很喜歡籃球而已。我不覺得他會黑某一時代的球員，更別說如果球員們技術更好的情況下了。
[–]Lakersdabrito 163 指標 3小時前
On top of his genuine love for the game, I think Kobe is incredibly secure in his legacy. As fans we always want to compare who is better, but Kobe was the guy putting in the work and had amazing results. He gave all he had physically, mentally, and emotionally to the game. Now he can sit back and watch a new generation of players develop without the feeling of regret or insecurity. Freedom from those negative feelings allows him to enjoy the game and offer advice to the new generation.
湖人球迷: 他個人歷史地位雷打不動也是一個很重要的原因啊。從球迷的角度來說，我們經常會把不同的球員比來比去分個勝負，但是科比永遠是那個努力向前，最終收穫成果的人。他把他所有的一切全部都給了籃球，無怨無悔。功名成就的他在退役後沒有那種酸溜溜的負面情緒，自然能夠更好地去欣賞新時代的籃球，並且給予球員們他的建議。
[–]76erstimacles 10 指標 1小時前
I feel like this is because Kobe is in that sweet spot of Arguably top 5 all time great but not GOAT like Jordan. Jordan has to live the rest of his life thinking, oh shit is Lebron now GOAT? or is this new X player GOAT? etc.. While Kobe can just sit back, relax and watch it all
76人球迷：我覺得科比正好在個很舒服的位置，可能是史上前五，但跟喬丹歷史第一人的地位又不一樣。喬丹需要隨時擔心「卧槽詹姆斯要搶老子寶座了」「卧槽這個叫XX的是不是要踢我下來」。科比的話只要輕鬆看戲就好了。
[–]KnicksFallout99 5 指標 23 分鐘前
I always thought the sweet spot would be like the 100th ranked golfer. Get to hang out in the sun playing a game that you like well into old age. Get to make decent money with the opportunity for more with sponsorships. Get to play tournaments all around the world and probably can snag invites to ESPYS or the playboy mansion. Plus you can still live a normal life and go outside without being mobbed by fans.
尼克斯球迷：我一直覺得這個舒服的位置應該是個排名100左右的職業高爾夫選手。能夠在太陽底下一直做著你喜歡的運動，直到慢慢老去。能拿到一筆不錯的收入，還有機會和拿到贊助。在世界各地打比賽，而且很大幾率能拿到ESPY或者花花公子別墅的邀請函。哦對了，你還能活的跟普通人一樣，不用擔心出門被粉絲堵死。
[–]Lakers23ke 23 指標 3小時前
Well, he played with those guys in the court unlike other retired players.
湖人球迷：科比和其他人不一樣的是他和現役的這幫傢伙一起打過啊。
[–]LordVarysDspiderman 30 指標 2小時前
That"s what people are missing here. Kobe actually battled against some of these guys, so he knows their caliber and talent.
Kobe is unique in that he experienced like three different eras of NBA basketball.
Paul Pierce just hates on Lebron because he tore those Celtics and Brooklyn Nets teams he was on a new asshole when he joined the HEAT.
Plus they played the same position and had a lot of intense match-ups in the playoffs.
T-mac usually praises a lot of players from this era, but it is almost expected for former players to always complain about something from the new generation.
T-mac mostly criticizes the rules from the era, not necessarily the talent of the players.
好多人都沒想到這個啊。科比可是真槍實彈的跟現在的這幫傢伙打過球，所以自然對他們的球技和天賦有更深的了解啊。
不過這也是科比很特殊的一點了。可不是每個人都打過三個時代的NBA啊。
皮爾斯討厭詹姆斯還不是因為老詹在熱火的時候把凱爾特人和籃網的卵都打出來了。兩個位置相同的人在季後賽擦出了那麼多火花，惦記著也正常。
麥迪倒是經常誇誇新時代球員的，但是退役球星對新一代球星發一發牢騷還是很正常的現象。麥迪主要的槽點還是這個時代的規則和以前差別太大，不一定是在說球員們的天賦。
[–][BOS] Gordon HaywardSheebzus 7 指標 1小時前
Celtics went to Game 7 in 2012 vs the Heat. Not really tearing up a new asshole. Pierce was probably Lebron"s closest rival, which is why they never liked each other.
凱爾特人球迷：我凱2012年的時候和熱火打滿了七場呢，還沒到卵都打出來那麼慘吧。皮爾斯應該算作是跟詹姆斯交手次數最多的對手了吧，指望這倆人互相喜歡那是不可能了。
[–]Clippersdarksamosa420 3 指標 1小時前
They lost in 5 in 2011 to the Heat & Pierce lost in 5 again to Lebron in 2014 though. Lebron"s closest rival is probably somebody on the Warriors
快船球迷：2011年的時候熱火用5場就打贏了凱爾特人，14年的籃網隊也是5場輸給了老詹啊。 跟詹姆斯最有淵源的估計是勇士里的其中一位吧。
[–][BOS] Gordon HaywardSheebzus 4 指標 1小時前
The Celtics used to beat Lebron a lot before he moved to Miami. After that, Lebron won more frequently, so the rivalry was pretty even. Lebron didn"t face Kobe/KD enough to be considered rivals. And the Warriors are recent, which is why Curry is probably gonna end up as Lebron"s biggest rival. But before that, it was Pierce.
凱爾特人球迷：我凱在老詹去熱火之前贏他的次數還是挺多的。去了熱火以後他倒是贏得比較多了，所以這對決應該是差不多五五開吧。老詹在季後賽和科比跟杜蘭特碰面的機會還沒到能夠互相稱為對手的程度。勇士的話這幾年是挺厲害的，所以庫里應該是最有可能成為老詹最大的對手的。在庫里之前的話，肯定是皮爾斯沒跑了。
[–]ParlosCuyol 947 指標 6小時前
Kobe Bryant has made the most money in NBA history and has 5 Championship Rings.
He has no reason to be bitter unlike a lot of older players who either didn"t have the team success or didn"t get to cash in as much as today"s players.
科比-布萊恩特掙了NBA歷史上最多的錢，還拿了五個冠軍。 他不像那些要不是沒錢就是沒榮譽的老傢伙們，金錢和榮譽全收的他有啥理由對現役球員發牢騷。
[–]Raptorssuperfuels 82 指標 5小時前
MJ is a billionaire mogul with 6 rings and is the (almost) undisputed GOAT. He"s the most bitter athlete I"ve ever seen.
猛龍球迷: 喬丹這個（幾乎）無可爭議的史上第一人可不服。六個戒指、上億的資產，然而他可能是歷史上最小心眼的運動員。
[–]BullsPhilOchsAccount 48 指標 4小時前
That"s the trick: he"s always bitter.
公牛球迷： 這就是喬丹厲害的地方了啊：他永遠小心眼。
[–]WarriorsTortaeMilanesa 289 指標 6小時前
What about Allen Iverson? Never won a title, and yet couldn"t be more effusive about modern players and the way the game"s played today.
勇士球迷： 那艾弗森怎麼算？ 他沒戒指啊，但是他對現在的球星和現在的比賽風格也是讚不絕口啊。
[–]LakersJakanzi[S] 176 指標 6小時前
Yea Iverson is another guy that sticks out as being genuinely complimentary of current players. I don"t think it has much to do with what players did or didn"t do in their careers. They were all hypercompetive, it makes sense for older players to be competitive and critical in retirement.
In that sense it feels like Iverson and Kobe are pretty unusual in being secure with what they"ve done in the league and moving on.
湖人球迷：艾弗森的確也是個真心對現役球員不錯的傢伙啊。 我倒覺得球員們的個人榮譽和他們退役後對現役球員的態度沒太大的關係。每個球員都是個爭強好勝的主，退役了也阻止不了他們啊。
這麼一想的話，科比和艾弗森倒還是真是奇了怪了。這倆看來都對自己的球員生涯挺滿意的，也知道什麼時候該放下。
[–]LakersJakanzi[S] 446 指標 6小時前*
Michael Jordan, the unanimous GOAT, spent the bulk of his Hall of Fame speech taking shots at people who had slighted him in his career all the way back to high school. Given how much Kobe modeled himself after MJ and how similar they were in terms of playing mentality, I don"t think it was at all given that Kobe would be this gracious.
Legends and championship winners like Shaq, Pierce, and Oscar Robertson show their insecurity pretty clearly and publicly despite their success as players. I agree that Kobe has no reason to be bitter, but neither do a lot of others but that hasn"t stopped these other hypercompetitive former players from being so.
湖人球迷： 邁克爾-喬丹，毫無爭議的史上第一人。這麼厲害的人卻在他的名人堂演講上花了一大堆時間去嘲諷那些在職業生涯上質疑過他的人，連高中的人都算。 像科比這種從頭到尾都追隨喬丹，打球方式如此相似的人，之前真的沒幾個人覺得他退役後能如此慷慨吧。
像奧尼爾，皮爾斯和羅伯遜這種名人和冠軍也在大眾面前把自己的不安表現的淋漓盡致，哪怕他們自己的歷史地位已經很高了。我同意你之前說的科比沒啥理由找茬，但是按理說這幫人也沒理由啊。可這幫爭強好勝的最後還是跳出來了。
[–]bokeh 187 指標 6小時前
From reading their biographies (written by the same author) it seemed like Kobe was a lot less damaged of a human being.
Kobe"s image is also not reliant on being the GOAT, unlike MJ. So MJ"s image might be tarnished, in a sense, by someone being seen as the new greatest, where Kobe will always just be a legend regardless of what comes next. So in that sense he probably has less to lose by propping another player up.
從他們倆的自傳來看（同一個作者），感覺科比在做人方面沒喬丹窟窿那麼多。
不過科比的確也不是用史上第一人作為自己的形象的。從這個角度來看的話，喬丹的形象的確有可能因為下一個球迷眼中的史上第一人出現而打上折扣， 反而科比不管之後發生啥應該都會被看做個傳奇。 這麼想的話，相比喬丹，科比稱讚其他球員的潛在風險要少的多。
[–]NBAOwningTheWorld 83 指標 5小時前
I would agree with your second point but not your first. Kobe did go through some shit with his Marriage nearly falling apart because of Colorado and his wife losing a child. Granted Jordan faced some nasty shit as well with his Father being murdered.
NBA球迷： 我對你的第二點很贊同，但是第一個觀點我覺得有些不妥。科比一路也是磕磕碰碰走過來的啊。在科羅拉多的那檔子事差點毀了他的婚姻，還讓她妻子流產了。不過喬丹也挺慘，老爸被謀殺啊。
[–]bokeh 40 指標 5小時前
Right, sorry I didn』t mean to imply that MJ had a harder life, just a that as a person he seemed to be much more flawed.
There are a million reasons why that could be he case and I don』t care to speculate, but that was my armchair psychologist two cents.
I think Kobe is such an amazing and resilient person, and there are a million reasons why he is such an interesting dude and I think a much better role model than MJ, despite the Colorado ordeal.
不好意思，我不是想說喬丹的生活更艱難，而是說他作為一個人的缺點更多一些。
他之所以變成這樣可能有各種各樣的原因，我也不願意去猜，但是這只是我這個鍵盤俠的一個想法而已。
我覺得科比真的是一個很棒的人，也很堅韌。比起喬丹，科比是個更好的偶像。有太多的理由讓我覺得科比這個人很有趣了，哪怕出了科羅拉多那個案子，我還是這麼覺得。
[–]Heatdjoseph414 66 指標 6小時前
I honestly think that most of the players that are super biased or critical in their impressions on current players are mostly those from the 90s. 2000s players seem to be more respectful of current players.
熱火球迷：我覺得吧，這幫嘴上跑火車的怎麼感覺都是90年代的老油條啊。2000年後的這幫老球星感覺對現役的球員挺尊重的啊。
[–]WarriorsTortadeMilanesa 93 指標 6小時前
Tracy McGrady was drafted a year after Iverson and bitches about the modern league more than anyone. Not even Barkley comes close.
勇士球迷：麥迪就比艾弗森晚進了聯盟一年，可他的嘴可一直沒閑著啊。巴克利跟他比都差點。
[–]RocketsTheBrownMamba1997 145 指標 5小時前
I think Tmac is just really bitter because injuries derailed his career. He"s still a hall of famer, but he could"ve been one of the greats
火箭球迷：我覺得麥迪酸的就是自己職業生涯里傷病太多了。要是沒傷的話他可能就不只是個名人堂的人了，有可能衝擊歷史級別了。
[–]Heatdjoseph414 17 指標 6小時前
Really? Havent really heard anything like that from TMac tbh. Is he really worse than Chuck?
熱火球迷：啊？麥迪這樣我咋沒聽說過？真的比巴克利還差？
[–]TPGStorm 84 指標 5小時前*
Paul pierce is probably the worst
皮爾斯應該是最差的那個吧。
[–]Heatdjoseph414 37 指標 5小時前
Yeah Pierce is pretty bad, especially when he has to talk about LeBron.
熱火球迷：皮爾斯的確挺差的，尤其在話題是勒布朗的時候。
[–]TPGStorm 41 指標 5小時前
OMG he hates Lebron lol but can you really blame him???????♂?
他真的很討厭詹姆斯啊，可你能賴他嘛???????♂
[–]Heatdjoseph414 19 指標 5小時前
Lol yeah obviously they have had multiple playoff rivalries, so I can see why Pierce hates him.
熱火球迷：不能啊兄弟，他們倆季後賽都打了那麼多次了，互相討厭也很正常吧
[–][TOR] Hakeem OlajuwonTell-Me-Fun-Facts 7 指標 4小時前
Still, he could be more gracious about the losses - it"s no knock on Pierce to admit that he was bested by one of the best (maybe the best when it"s all over).
猛龍球迷：那他輸的時候不能大氣一點嗎，輸給歷史最佳球員之一（退役之時這個之一可能就被去掉了)的人有那麼丟臉嘛？
[–]randomguy000039 5 指標 3小時前
There"s no more iconic a rivalry in the nba than Bird/Magic, but the two of them became good friends.
魔術師和大鳥的對決可是NBA史上最經典的對決啊，這也沒能阻止他們倆成為好朋友啊
[–]LakersMontaron87 48 指標 4小時前
Kobe was the ultimate copycat player. You couldn"t invent a basketball move that Kobe couldn"t copy and execute at game speed.
Now he"s copying social media strategies too, being all friendly and such to create a career and income beyond his playing career.
湖人球迷：科比應該算是最厲害的模仿大師了吧。我還沒看過他學不來的球技呢。
現在這貨也開始模仿網路社交技能了，老好人的友善樣，這能確保在他的球員生涯結束、新的職業生涯之後收入也同樣不菲啊。
[–]Lakersoaknutjohn 27 指標 4小時前
Hm, that"s a pretty insightful observation. It"s weird but calling him the ultimate copycat player is such a huge compliment that I think even he would enjoy.
湖人球迷：你這個角度有點吊鑽啊兄弟。模仿大師這頭銜有點怪怪的，但是對他來說應該是個非常好的讚揚吧。
[–]fanology 15 指標 3小時前
So he"s Kakashi?
所以你的意思是科比是卡卡西？
[–]BullsChaoticMidget 9 指標 2小時前
More like Kise.
公牛球迷： 應該是涼太吧[譯註3]
[譯註3]：黃瀬涼太，動漫黑子的籃球主人公之一，可以複製對手的技巧
[–]Warriorsknfish 91 指標 4小時前
Kobe isn"t insecure. He knows he"s one of the greatest and everyone else does too. He doesn"t need to bash the current players or game to justify why he is great.
勇士球迷：科比可不自卑。他和其他人都知道他是史上最強的球員之一。他根本不需要詆毀其他球員來提升他的地位好嘛。
[–]Heatdjoseph414 176 指標 6小時前
Well to be fair, I think most of the recently retired NBA players are more respectful of current players. Most of the super critical players played during the 90s.
熱火球迷：有句講句，最近退役的這幾個都挺尊敬現役的啊。刻簙的那幾個都是90年代的.
[–]NBAprodigy3006 59 指標 4小時前
Backups get millions in the NBA man.
替補都能拿幾百萬啊兄弟，他們能不氣嗎。
[–]LakersJakanzi[S] 14 指標 6小時前
The recently retired and the guys who played in the 90s are more or less the same group of players, aren"t they?
湖人球迷：最近退役的和在90年代打球的不是一撥人嘛？
[–]Heatdjoseph414 89 指標 6小時前
No not really. Guys like Nash, Kobe, KG, Duncan, Ray Allen, etc. are recently retired. Guys like Jordan, Pippen, Barkley, etc. are the 90s players.
熱火球迷：不不不不，像納什，科比，KG，鄧肯，雷阿倫這種才算最近退役的。喬丹，皮蓬，巴克利這類的才是90年代的球員。
[–]LakersJakanzi[S] 66 指標 6小時前
The recently retired also includes Pierce, McGrady, Stephen Jackson, Chauncey Billups, Kenyon Martin and others who make a living now making fun of Markelle Fultz. I don"t think it has to do with era, it"s an attitude inherent to the person. Jerry West never had an ego about it either after he retired, but it"s a little different when you"re still in the league as a talent evaluator.
湖人球迷：最近退役的也有像皮爾斯，麥迪，史蒂芬-傑克遜，昌西-比盧普斯， 肯揚-馬丁這種需要依靠吐槽福爾茲為生的球員啊。 我覺得這事情跟年代沒關係，跟個人素質有關係。傑里-韋斯特退役以後也沒出來鬧事啊，但是像他這種在聯盟做球員評估的跟他們也不太一樣吧。
[–]LakersWheresMySaucePlease 13 指標 4小時前
Chauncey"s a good analyst. He"s a TV natural. Pierce is still finding his footing but he"s improved. T-Mac is fine he just seems bummed out all the time but it"s kinda funny so I don"t mind. Stack Jack gives the people what they want.
湖人球迷：比盧普斯是個很好的分析員，他就是為了電視節目而生的好嘛。皮爾斯感覺還沒太適應，但是他的確有在變好啊。麥迪我覺得還行，雖然感覺他老是死氣沉沉的但是我覺得那樣挺逗的所以完全OK啊。傑克遜就是奉獻人們想要的內容——口水。
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