揭秘奧尼爾和海軍上將的十年恩怨，美JRs：真是兩個200多斤的孩子啊

揭秘奧尼爾和海軍上將的十年恩怨，美JRs：真是兩個200多斤的孩子啊

Beef history: Shaq"s 10-year beef with David Robinson included the pettiest 71-point game and one huge lie.

恩怨往事：奧尼爾與大衛-羅賓遜的十年怨懟，史上最小肚雞腸的單場71分和一個驚天謊言

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簡單聽譯，細節概括：1994年的全明星賽上，被屢屢口出狂言的奧尼爾惹怒的西部全明星合起伙來讓他僅得到12投2中的成績，這可是全明星啊！奧拉朱旺防死了奧尼爾，大衛-羅賓遜更是秀了自己的運球技術，多次過掉奧尼爾得分。比賽中屢屢出現雙人包夾甚至三人包夾奧尼爾的情況。賽後大衛-羅賓遜表示，西部全明星隊在比賽開始時並沒有提到要包夾奧尼爾，這不是他們的主意（有人表示是卡爾教練的戰術）。但是上將也承認奧尼爾賽前大放厥詞讓他們燃起了鬥志，將比賽打的很有對抗性。奧尼爾回應：「我要一個一個地找回場子，這些人誰也跑不了。」

奧尼爾在那次全明星後多次提到嫉妒這個詞，稱這是字典中最醜惡的詞。然而大衛-羅賓遜絲毫不示弱，稱奧尼爾就根本沒有什麼讓他們（時任西部全明星）嫉妒的。

1994年三月六號，奧尼爾在自己生日當天率隊做客聖安東尼奧，高效砍下32分11籃板。但上將完全爆發，砍下36分13板7助攻6蓋帽3搶斷的全面統治數據，率領馬刺贏得比賽，MVP高呼響徹全場。馬刺的安德森挑釁奧尼爾，問他誰才是MVP啊？奧尼爾很不服氣，表示自己才是真正的MVP。

兩人其實恩怨已久，奧尼爾就讀於聖安東尼奧高中，在那裡打出了名堂並被看作是未來之星，而效力於聖安東尼奧馬刺的上將的風頭完全蓋過了還是高中之星的奧尼爾。後來，媒體也時常將這位好出風頭、愛誇海口的年輕人和虔誠、自律又謙遜的羅賓遜做對比。奧尼爾愛搞怪，上將很自律，在被馬刺選中後讓馬刺等了自己兩年（服役)。聖安東尼奧媒體也曾發表文章稱：「奧尼爾說垃圾話，上將引經據典。奧尼爾吹噓自己跟名人*河蟹*，上將命令工作人員把球隊大巴上的黃色雜誌扔出車外。後來，羅賓遜受夠了記者提問自己有關奧尼爾的事，稱自己不在乎他咋想，更是說出了「奧尼爾是誰啊？」

奧尼爾自然不爽，後者回應稱：「下次羅賓遜在低位一對一防我的時候後果只有一個。」（拿出了上將被自己隔扣的照片）

在1994年4月24日，兩人的恩怨上升到了頂峰。當時奧尼爾排在NBA總得分榜第一位，領先第二名的大衛-羅賓遜33分，而兩人在那天都有比賽。馬刺全隊都知道這點，積極給羅賓遜喂球，把對手打爆也沒有換下羅賓遜，繼續刷分。最後羅賓遜得了71分。

所有的摩擦和誤會，造成了雙方延續十年的怨懟。在馬刺對湖人的季後賽期間，奧尼爾對媒體稱羅賓遜曾無情拒絕彼時尚是高中生的奧尼爾的簽名請求，更寫進他2001年的自傳里，科比在奧尼爾的雕像揭幕儀式上也提到了這點。當時，羅賓遜並沒有正面回應奧尼爾在書中寫的故事，而是打趣道「什麼書？圖畫本嗎？」嘲笑了奧尼爾一番。

如今奧尼爾終於承認，這個廣為流傳的故事根本就是他編造的，因為他「需要給自己一個恨那些球員的理由，如果沒有，那就編一個。」

[–][NYK] Landry Fieldswateringcan96 580 指標 5小時前

I honestly forgot that the admiral dropped 71

我都忘了海軍上將得過71分了。

[–]SpursMethodMango 544 指標 5小時前

Only two people in NBA history have won the scoring title and DPOY. Michael Jordan and David Robinson.

NBA史上只有兩個球員同時得過得分王和最佳防守球員：邁克爾-喬丹和大衛-羅賓遜。

[–]85dewwwsu7 54 指標 2小時前

Yup, but also the DPOY award didn"t exist before 1983.

對，不過1983年之前沒有最佳防守球員這個獎項。

[–]SpursSpurs50 287 指標 2小時前

Robinson is largely the most underrated NBA star of all time

上將幾乎是NBA史上最被低估的球星了。

[–]RocketsMMO4life 106 指標 1小時前

Blame Hakeem"s bamboozling

要怪就怪奧拉朱旺總是把他晃得團團轉吧。

[–]Trail BlazersConstantQuarreling 43 指標 1小時前

And Sabonis finessing Robinson』s ass all day in that one Olympic game.

再加上薩博尼斯在奧運會也是全天候打爆羅賓遜。

[–]Knicksbigragingrondo 13 指標 1小時前

moses and karl malone are also under appreciated

摩西-馬龍和卡爾-馬龍也很被低估啊。

[–]PlanesBlade 23 指標 1小時前

Karl doesn』t deserve to be talked about unless it』s a 「This dude is a shithead」 thread. Don』t care about his talent or stats at all. Fuck em

卡爾-馬龍就不配被提起，也就只有「這傢伙是個爛人」的帖子里才會談他。哥一點也不在乎他的才華和數據，去特么的！

[–][DAL] Jose CalderonMrVincent17 21 指標 51 分鐘前

You can hate the guy all you want as a person, but that doesn"t erase his basketball career

馬龍這個人怎麼被黑都不為過，但是他的籃球生涯可不會被場外的爛事抹殺。

[–]Pistonstweenalibi 11 指標 50 分鐘前

For fucking real. Dude got a 13 year old pregnant when he was 20 and bailed. No idea how he got off the hook in the court of public opinion on that one.

沒開玩笑，這傢伙20歲的時候把一個13歲女孩搞大了肚子，然後就拋下孩子和孩子母親直接特么溜了！也不知道那次他是怎麼被公眾原諒的。

[–]xenomoft 210 指標 4小時前

The Admiral was one of only 4 players in NBA history, who had a quadruple double.

34 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks against the "94 Pistons.

上將是全NBA歷史上四個得過四雙的球員之一，1994年對陣活塞的時候砍下過34分+10籃板+10助攻+10蓋帽。

[–]WeaponX33 86 指標 3小時前

Duncan had an unofficial one in the Finals that for some reason was never fixed by the NBA.

鄧肯在總決賽也得過一次四雙，但是NBA官方沒有承認過。

[–]SpursThehelloman0 70 指標 1小時前

He only had 9 blocks that game. They missed two he has but counted a teammates block as one of his.

馬刺球迷：那場比賽他拿了9次蓋帽。他們漏計了鄧肯的兩次蓋帽，而把他隊友的一次蓋帽算作了他的。

[–][SAS] Devin BrownJohnGoodmansGoodKnee 43 指標 3小時前

Timmy should have too, in the Finals of all scenarios. They didn』t count his 10th rebound though. That Jersey numberskeeper had it out for him.

馬刺球迷：鄧肯本來也應該有一次的，還是在總決賽這種比賽里。他們也沒算他的第十個籃板。那個籃網主場的統計員給他漏掉了。

[–]NBAWhiteness88 71 指標 2小時前

He had 20 rebounds, not 10. You"re probably confusing it with his 8 blocks. I"ve seen footage and he may have gotten a ninth but he didn"t get to 10. One of the disputed blocks was correctly attributed to Robinson.

他是拿了20個籃板，不是10個。你可能和他的8次蓋帽記混了。我看了錄像，他可能是拿了9次蓋帽，但是沒到10。其中一個有爭議的蓋帽最後算給了羅賓遜，這才是對的。

[–][DAL] Dirk Nowitzkijaslr 69 指標 4小時前

Tl;dw shaq made up a story that The Admiral snubbed an autograph request when Shaq was a kid just to "make himself hate him".

給太長不看的總結下：奧尼爾編了個故事，謊稱上將曾經拒絕幼年沙克的簽名請求，就是為了讓自己恨他。

[–]NozarashiKenpachi 216 指標 5小時前

damn we say today"s beefs are petty but look at that, these are 2 7 ft 300 lbs grown men acting like kids honestly, shaq is my favorite player ever but why would you make up a story? smh

nice vid tho I"d watch more of these

靠，我們老說今日NBA球員之間結梁子很小心眼，看看這個吧，兩個超過2.13米、136公斤的成年男子做事像小孩子一樣！奧尼爾是我最喜歡的球員，但是你幹嘛要編故事啊？哎。這個視頻是很有意思，再來點。

[–]76ersImpBron 223 指標 4小時前

Shaq has a petty personality. He always discredit Steve Nash MVPs and always overly critical on big man with big potential. He also quite a bully, see his mean tweets on Javale McGee.

奧尼爾這個人的性格就是很狹隘，他總是貶低納什的兩次MVP含金量不夠，過分批評潛力無限的大個子，還愛欺負人。看看他那些關於麥基的刻薄推特吧。

[–]RawrRawr83 97 指標 4小時前

Let"s send CP3 to beat him up

讓保羅去揍他一頓！[譯註1]

[譯註1]在火船更衣室大戰爆發時，TNT演播室的奧尼爾和巴克利樂的前仰後合，奧尼爾當時模仿快船球員報警：「警察叔叔快來救我，保羅要來揍我啦！」

[–]CavaliersKenchan21 43 指標 3小時前

CP will send Clint Capella to distract him then send two guys to cheapshot from behind.

保羅會讓卡佩拉去吸引奧尼爾的注意力，然後讓另外兩個弟兄從奧尼爾背後出其不意攻其不備。

[–]NozarashiKenpachi 8 指標 4小時前

I have to agree with him on nash tho, no way should nash have 2 mvp when Shaq/Kobe have 1, especially since nash was a defensive liability,but as always MVP is very narrative-based. Javale McGee yeah he stayed too much on his case but you gotta admit his shaqtin a fool segments were hilarious

我倒是不得不同意他對於納什MVP的觀點，奧尼爾和科比才各得一次MVP，沒道理納什有資格得兩次，尤其是納什在防守端是個累贅。當然，MVP確實是很看輿論導向的。奧尼爾確實是糾纏麥基有點久，不過你不得不承認他那檔「鯊魚五大囧」確實是非常好笑。

[–]Supersonicssexygodzilla 54 指標 4小時前

Javale was a good recurring thing on Shaqtin, but then it started going too far when he would start putting the slightest mistakes on and then made a special segment devoted to Javale.

一開始麥基的一些回合確實是適合那檔節目，但是後來奧尼爾就有點過了，麥基在場上犯一點點錯也會被他放進節目里嘲笑，後來還做了一期嘲笑麥基的特別節目。

[–]Knicksnailgardener 105 指標 4小時前

Taking a 71pt dump aint petty if it"s to win the scoring title. If a third player was way ahead of them, and Robinson did it just to make sure he was second instead of Shaq, THAT"S petty.

為了贏得分王而得71分可不是小心眼。如果有第三個球員排在奧尼爾和羅賓遜之前，而羅賓遜怒砍71分只是為了排在奧尼爾前面，那才叫小心眼呢。

[–][BOS] Jaylen BrownJaylenBrown7 253 指標 5小時前

Imagine somehow having beef with david robinson

一個人是如何能跟這麼nice的大衛-羅賓遜結梁子啊？

[–]Celticsshanmustafa[S] 247 指標 5小時前

Love David Robinson, but he was kind of a square with all those don』t drink on prom night commercials , and the story about him throwing away a magazine on the team bus that talked about sex, like damn admiral maybe I wanted to read that

我是很喜歡大衛-羅賓遜，不過他這人挺無聊的，拍過那些畢業舞會別喝酒的公益廣告什麼的。還有個故事說他把球隊大巴上一本成人雜誌給扔了，靠，上將，說不定有人想讀呢！

[–][SAS] Devin BrownJohnGoodmansGoodKnee 91 指標 3小時前

I played AAU with his son. Nicest dad ever and really cool guy. Has a private Christian school in SA he funds or started too. But I can see how he』d rub certain guys in the NBA the wrong way. Almost like a Tebow type? But not holier than thou

我跟他兒子都在AAU打球，絕對是個好爸爸，人也蠻不錯的，還在聖安東尼奧有個私立基督教學校，好像是他資助還是創辦的。但我也確實能看出來為啥他在NBA招某些人煩。他可能跟NFL的Tebow一樣，信教信得太虔誠、太外露了，不過倒也不是那種討人嫌的道德優越感。

[–]Lakers35wedge 21 指標 2小時前

If Robinson played today he would be the butt of every single joke let』s be real. As great as he is he seriously lucked out to avoid the Twitter Era.

說實話，如果羅賓遜是這個時代的球員，他絕對是所有笑話的笑柄。他是很偉大，但他很幸運能避開推特時代。

[–]NormanImmanuel 21 指標 1小時前

That"s probably true, but also more of an indictment of twitter than Robinson.

這是實話，不過這反而更說明了推特是個什麼東西，與羅賓遜無關。

[–][CLE] Craig EhloLoveandBonor 129 指標 4小時前

Lord, those spurs teams. 「Oh hey, I see David Robinson is getting on in years, so here, have Tim Duncan.」

騎士球迷：這馬刺真是...「哎呦，大衛-羅賓遜幾年內就要不行了是吧，那好，給你刺來個蒂姆-鄧肯。」

[–]JazzTubal 124 指標 3小時前

San Antonio were the OG tankers.

1995-96 59-23

1996-97 20-62

1997-98 56-26

馬刺是擺爛鼻祖。

95-96賽季，59勝23負；

96-97賽季，20勝-62負；

97-98賽季，56勝-26負。

[–][CLE] Craig EhloLoveandBonor 35 指標 3小時前

Wasn"t Robinson injure in 96-97?

96-97賽季上將不是受傷了嗎？

[–][SAS] Alvin Robertson_JPG97_ 64 指標 3小時前

Yeah and that"s how they got Duncan with the 1st pick that year

對，所以那一年他們拿了狀元簽，選中了鄧肯。

[–]JazzTubal 25 指標 2小時前

He was injured like 3 games in. Sean Elliot also sat out a good portion of that year. Popovich fired Bob Hill 18 games in (after a 59-23 season, shocking everyone) and took over as coach. I"m sure they knew how good Duncan was going to be and instead of trying to salvage a decent year they went all in on tank mode.

他當時是打了3場左右就傷了，肖恩-埃利奧特那年也因傷缺席大量比賽。教練鮑勃-希爾在18場比賽之後就被時任總經理的波波維奇炒了魷魚，教鞭被波波維奇本人接過，這還是在一個59勝賽季之後，所有人都震驚了。他們當時可能都清楚鄧肯絕對會成為偉大球員，於是決定與其用殘陣拚死一搏，不如安心擺爛等狀元簽。

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