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保羅相信LBJ會成為歷史得分榜第一,美JRs:他高效又健康,肯定可以

克里斯-保羅在近日談到勒布朗-詹姆斯的歷史地位時表示:「等他突破了「四」的里程碑時,我們絕對還會把這事拿出來再說一遍。你就記住我說的吧,沒錯,他絕對會名列前茅。我認為他在退役之時會成為歷史第一。」

Chris Paul on Lebron"s legacy, "We going to be saying this again when he getting to, like, 40. Just remember I said that, yeah, he going to get somewhere up there. I think he"ll be #1 by the time it"s all said and done."

[–]WeRightHere 1001 指標 6小時前

CHRIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE ALL-TIME SCORING RECORD WATCH THE VIDEO

你們這群不專心的人!保羅是在說歷史得分榜,麻煩看看採訪視頻好嗎!

[–]ShadowOutOfTime 174 指標 5小時前

He means 40,000 points, not age 40, and he means #1 in scoring, not #1 GOAT. However... all of the above could be true at once

保羅是在指四萬分,不是四十歲啊,而且他在指得分榜第一,不是歷史第一。但是吧,這四個成就詹姆斯可能一口氣完成啊。

[–][ATL] Dominique WilkinsCounterInsanity 212 指標 6小時前

If he averages 24 points in an 82 game season for the next 5 years, he could definitely get #1, It"s very realistic, but it"s not accounting for injuries, rests, or any thing else that could keep him out of games. While he has said that his kids will ultimately be the deciding factor on whether he retires sooner rather than later, I can see him playing for another 5 to 7 years.

如果老詹在接下來五年的82場賽賽季里場均24分,那他絕逼能攀到得分榜第一。這樣看還是挺現實的,但是沒算上傷病,輪休或者其它能讓不上場的因素。而且他還曾說過他的孩子們會是他是否提前或者推遲退役的最終決定因素,我認為他會再打5到7年的。

[–]CelticsTwoForOneEspecial 104 指標 5小時前

I made a projection for him to reach #1 by playing through his age 38-39 season:

2017-18 - 21 games @ 26 ppg = 30,851

2018-19 - 72 games @ 24 ppg = 32,579 (4th place)

2019-20 - 70 games @ 22 ppg = 34,119 (3rd place)

2020-21 - 68 games @ 20 ppg = 35,479

2021-22 - 66 games @ 18 ppg = 36,667

2022-23 - 64 games @ 16 ppg = 37,691 (2nd place)

2023-24 - 62 games @ 14 ppg = 38,559 (1st place)

Barring major injury problems, I think it"s a matter of whether LeBron wants to be the all-time scoring leader, not whether he can be.

我給老詹做了個大概的預測,在他38歲-39歲這個賽季達到得分榜第一:

2017-2018賽季:剩餘出場21場場均26分達到30,851分。

2018-2019賽季:出場72場場均24分達到32,579分(得分榜第四)。

2019-2020賽季:出場70場場均22分達到34,119分(得分榜第三)。

2020-2021賽季:出場68場場均20分達到35,479分。

2021-2022賽季:出場66場場均18分達到36,667分。

2022-2023賽季:出場64場場均16分達到37,691分(得分榜第二)。

2023-2024賽季:出場62場場均14分達到38,559分(得分榜第一)。

拋開重大傷病的問題,我認為這個話題就不是是否勒布朗有能力成為歷史得分榜第一,而是取決於他自己是否想成為第一。

[–]Wizardskmcdow 334 指標 5小時前

LeBron

Injuries

Pick 1

「勒布朗-詹姆斯」和「傷病」是兩條永遠不相交的平行線,請勿強行穿插。

[–]WarriorsJinxsLover 149 指標 5小時前

Kobe was the same way until of course everything went wrong. Father time is undefeated and so on

唉,在傷病來襲之前,科比也是不折不扣的鐵人啊。時間老人是無法擊敗的。

[–]76ersBaked_Bt 145 指標 5小時前

Kobe constantly had nagging injuries that he played through. Lebron has not to this point.

科比之前總是帶著一些煩人的傷病在打球,勒布朗可還沒到這個程度。

[–]thetripb 40 指標 4小時前

LeBron has back issues IIRC

不對吧,如果我沒記錯,勒布朗一直都有背傷問題。

[–]LakersLeeSoon-Kyu 277 指標 4小時前

You"re right, he has chronic back issues after carrying that god-awful Cavs team to the playoffs from 2006-2010

老哥你沒記錯,自打勒布朗把那支爛到哭的騎士隊從2006年到2010年抗到背上連進季後賽之後,就有了慢性背傷。

[–]Trail BlazersJames_Girthy 113 指標 5小時前

Kobe got hurt a lot he just never took time off because of it, Lebron just never gets hurt

認真地講,科比經常受傷,他只是從來不停下來好好養傷。勒布朗就不一樣了,他真是從來不受傷。

[–]Raptorsmilkplantation 47 指標 4小時前*

I wouldn"t anticipate Lebron getting injured. His biomechanics are near perfect; he holds the rim after many dunks to land on two legs, absorbs impact through his hips, lands on the balls of his feet (not heels), and pushes out to fall on his butt when he"s too far in the backseat on a landing.

我並不認為勒布朗會受傷,他的生物力學幾近完美。他很多次扣籃之後都會抓住籃筐以確保雙腿落地,通過他的臀部來吸收衝擊力,用雙腳的前腳掌而不是後腳掌著地,若他落地時重心太朝後,他會藉助臀部落地將力給轉移出去。

There is a great video series on YouTube called By Any Means Basketball that breaks down injuries, provides information on prevention, etc.

在油管上有一部很棒的系列視頻叫By Any Means Basketball,這些視頻拆解分析了各種傷病,提供了很多如何防範的信息等等。

Their Kobe video shows that in addition to his huge workload (40 mins a night) Kobe had pretty bad landing mechanics that likely contributed to his knee surgeries in 2003 and 2006. Following his third knee surgery on his right knee in 2010, he began to favour his left leg immensely, landing on just his left leg after dunks and even face-up jimbos. To make matters worse, his landing mechanics often had his knee driving over his toes, which for anyone who squats knows, which is terribly hard on the knee when landing from a vertical jump.

分析科比傷病那集就說了,除了科比每晚巨大的消耗(每場打40分鐘),科比還有著非常糟糕的落地方式,很大程度上導致了科比在2003年和2006年兩次膝蓋的手術。接著在他2010年第三次右膝手術之後,他開始大量地著迷於用自己的左腿,比如在扣籃之後僅用左腿著地,甚至連面筐跳投也是左腿著地。更糟糕的是,他的落地習慣通常都是將膝蓋的力量轉移到前腳趾上,對於練過深蹲的人來說,都知道這樣的習慣在垂直起跳後落地會使膝蓋承受十分可怕的壓力。

First he developed tenosynovitis in his left knee (overuse) and then came the achilles. I"d anticipate Lebron going out like Vince.

就因為這樣,一開始他的左膝得了腱鞘炎(因過度使用),之後就是他的跟腱。所以我比較傾向于勒布朗會更像卡特一樣常青、不受傷病困擾。

[–]RackyRackerton 20 指標 6小時前

LeBron forgot to account for injuries up until this point is his career... I think he forgot how to get hurt

都打到職業生涯這個階段了,詹姆斯真是跟傷病沒啥來往啊。我覺得詹姆斯是根本忘記該怎麼受傷了。

[–]Raptorsrounced 93 指標 5小時前

twist ankle

hobble around for 15 seconds

tighten shoelaces

continue dominating lesser mortals

老詹腳扭了,很慌張;

老詹瘸瘸拐拐走了15秒,很害怕;

老詹綁了綁鬆動的鞋帶,很淡定;

老詹重回場上繼續統治凡人,很靠譜。

[–]ali_1713 215 指標 6小時前*

Chris Paul fined 500k for tampering

Magic also fined 500k for tampering

克里斯-保羅因涉嫌引誘勒布朗-詹姆斯被罰款50萬美金。

跟進消息:魔術師也因引誘勒布朗被罰款50萬美金。

[–]KnicksVyperpunkhunk 294 指標 7小時前

ESPN: Is CP3 done with the Jordan brand?

ESPN報導:驚!保羅暗諷喬老闆非史上最佳,欲與AJ終止合作關係?

[–][SAS] Manu Ginobilijasoncyke 94 指標 6小時前

MJ calling CP a midget soon.

喬老爺馬上就要罵保羅是個侏儒了。[譯註1]

[譯註1]:1995年季後賽首輪對陣黃蜂,在防守身高僅1.60米的博格斯時,喬丹說道,「趕緊投吧,你這個侏儒。」

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookAnti_Thon 256 指標 7小時前

I agree w/ CP3. LeBron will be #1 in pretty much every record book, have a shit ton of finals appearances, possibly more rings.

我同意保羅說的。勒布朗基本會在每一項紀錄冊上成為歷史第一,會有大把大把的打進總決賽次數,可能還會拿到更多冠軍戒指。

[–]MrMudkip 25 指標 5小時前

I don"t think he"ll get any more rings but he will easily be #1.

我不認為他會在拿到戒指了,但是他絕對可以輕而易舉成為(多項歷史記錄的)第一人。

[–][PHI] World B. FreePhormoond4 156 指標 5小時前

you never know, if you told me they"d win in 2016 i never would have believed you

難說,如果你當時告訴我騎士能在2016年贏下總冠軍,我是絕對不會相信你的。

[–]MrMudkip 35 指標 5小時前

Yea but in 2016 they didnt have Durant. It went from a 10% chance to a 0%.

的確,但是2016年的時候勇士還沒有杜蘭特呢,而杜蘭特加入之後,騎士打敗勇士的機會從10%降到了0%。

[–]San Diego RocketsBosurd 62 指標 5小時前

Not sure why you』re getting downvoted. This current warriors team is much better than 2016.

老哥我不知道為什麼會有人點滅你,現在這支勇士隊就是比2016年勇士強很多啊。

[–]76ersPterons 105 指標 4小時前

He"s getting downvoted because he said 0% chance. I dont think you can ever say Lebron has 0% chance of winning a playoff series/finals.

樓上被點滅是因為他說了「0%的機會」,我不認為你可以拍著胸脯說當你有勒布朗時,你會毫無機會贏下一輪季後賽系列賽或者總決賽。

[–]PistonsStanVanGundysDinner 115 指標 7小時前*

Just know, we have been spoiled to have players as dominant as Michael Jordan and Lebron James play. Sure there was other greats, but all paled in comparison.

I think we will have a time for awhile until we see the next GOAT level player. There is great talent but these two are insane.

Whatever you believe who』s 1 or 2, it』s all been just an amazing time to be an nba fan.

我只想說,我們球迷的的確確被喬丹和詹姆斯這樣統治級的球員給寵壞了。當然NBA還是有許多其他的偉大球員,但是一拿出來比較都顯得蒼白無力。

我們可能會需要在接下來等待較長的一段時間才能再見到下一位「史上最佳」級別的球員了。的確聯盟天賦滿滿,但喬丹和勒布朗簡直就是兩個流氓。

無論你認為誰是第一,誰是第二,作為一名NBA球迷,真的很幸福。

[–]LakersKingMeezy 87 指標 6小時前

One of these seasons we"re not gonna see Lebron in the leauge anymore, That"ll be werid getting used to

之後某一個賽季我們就再也見不到勒布朗在聯盟里打球了,想想就覺得很難去習慣。

[–]Lakersd12anoel 49 指標 6小時前

I"m still looking at the league and missing Kobe and Duncan

可不是么,我雖然還在看球,但是我很想念老科和槑啊。

[–]HolierMonkey586 10 指標 7小時前

I want to see Giannis over the next couple years before I say it will be a while before another great.

在我對「還需等待較長的一段時間才能再見到下一位『史上最佳』級別的球員」下定論之前,我還是挺想看看字母哥接下來幾年的成長。

[–]Nuggetso2lsports 61 指標 6小時前

The fact that we are still saying 「over the next couple years」 for Giannis means he』s already out of the conversation. Every GOAT candidate was a GOAT from day one.

事實上當我們說出「接下來幾年」時,就已經把字母哥從「史上最佳球員」的討論中排除出去了。每一位「史上最佳」的候選人,從他們第一天開始,就已經身處「史上最佳」的行列了。


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