17級新秀整體投籃能力太差，進NBA後能不能練出來呢？

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2017級新秀整體投籃能力太差，到底進NBA後能不能練出來呢？

Why are there so many rookies this year who can"t shoot a damn basketball?

本賽季新秀投籃水平捉急，原因何在？

Simmons looks like a right handed guy pretending to be a lefty.

Lonzo throws the ball like it"s a slingshot.

Fultz had an injury that made his body forget how to shoot, and he can"t even lift up his arms properly.

Josh Jackson looks like he has an aneurysm whenever he shoots a long jumper.

西蒙斯看起來像是天生慣用右手的假左撇子。

球哥投籃像是射彈弓。

富爾茨受傷之後，他的身體忘記了之前的投籃動作，他甚至都不能正確地舉起手臂了。

當傑克遜遠投時，姿勢像極了小兒麻痹。

Fox and DSJ can build an entire town with all the bricks they threw up this season.

Frank Nillywilly and Malik Monk are barely even playing because it"s apparently better to develop Trey Burke and Michael Carter-Williams.

Jonathan Isaac...the fuck happened to him? He was the #6 pick and missed 50 games this season, but nobody gives a shit because he"s on the Magic

福克斯和史密斯這哥倆姿勢沒啥毛病，但是他倆這賽季的產鐵量夠建一個CBD了。

尼利基納和蒙克連上場機會都快沒了，因為相比他倆，尼克斯和黃蜂還不如去培養伯克和邁卡威呢。

至於艾薩克，這哥們到底咋了？作為今年6號簽，缺席了50場比賽，不過倒也無所謂，反正沒人會關心魔術。

[–][TOR] Jose Calderondeadskin 3713 指標 11小時前

Almost all of these guys are 21 or under and many states are trying to limit the shooting ability of people under 21

樓主說得這些球員都沒過21歲，許多州都在嘗試立法限制21歲以下公民的射擊能力呢。

[–]Celticsfdahood 476 指標 10小時前

So, this is all Walmart"s fault?

全…全特么賴沃爾瑪？[譯註1]

[譯註1]：美國最大零售商沃爾瑪公司2月28日宣布，收緊槍支出售政策，以順應最新校園槍擊血案後的控槍呼聲。將購槍者的年齡門檻從18歲上調至21歲。Shot投籃，開槍雙關。

[–]ThunderDhugs88 27 指標 10小時前

Unless you"re being shot at then you can be any age.

被射就不一樣啦，老少皆宜，沒有任何年齡限制啊！[譯註2]

[譯註2]調侃美國槍擊案頻發。

[–]Bulletsburnerfret 2041 指標 11小時前

When you can get to the basket whenever you want your entire life, there"s less motivation to work on your jumper.

這幫哥打NBA前都是BUG級別的存在，隨時隨地都可以殺到籃下，所以可能就沒什麼動力去練跳投。

[–]Thundergloboybandzoblock400 1207 指標 10小時前

This is the correct answer + transitioning from playing high schoolers ---> NBA defenders in 1.5 years is insane

樓上正解。而且，這些新兵蛋子一年半前還在血虐高中生，然後現在轉眼之間就是跟NBA的防守者過招了。

[–]Celticsscarecrowbar 504 指標 9小時前

But hasn"t this always been the case for NBA players? Why is it such an anomaly this year?

額，一年半不是歷年新秀的常規操作嗎？為什麼今年的新秀投籃就這麼差勁呢？

[–]CavaliersRock_Type 946 指標 9小時前*

We"re in the prime of a new basketball culture. The AAU culture.

Where coaches don"t teach kids fundamentals. They don"t teach them proper post work or good shooting form. They just want the most raw talent and size and tell the 6"1 7th graders to take it to the rack and let your teammates play defense.

你我「有幸」見證了一種全新籃球文化的黃金時代。即業餘體育聯盟（少年籃球）的籃球文化。

這兒的教練從來不教基本功，他們不會教球員們合適的低位技術抑或是良好的投籃姿勢。他們只會榨乾球員本身的天賦和身體條件，比如告訴身高一八五的七年級生在進攻端生吃活吞了防守者，至於防守，呵，讓你的隊友做就好。

[–]Celticsscarecrowbar 438 指標 9小時前

Definitely agree - but I feel like AAU culture has been a thing for awhile. I remember it being talked about a lot around players like Melo.

雙手雙腳贊同你說的，但是AAU也存在有一段時間了吧，我記得很多NBA球員（比如甜瓜），都說過AAU的問題。

[–]Sunscicadaenthusiat 214 指標 6小時前

I agree. This isn"t AAUs "prime" it"s the continuation. A lot of the guys drafted around Melo/LeBron"s class can"t shoot. Nowadays, that"s all they do in AAU.

我同意。不是說AAU現在發展到頂峰了才有這樣的問題，而是這個問題歷來存在，愈演愈烈。03級會投籃的新秀不多，有樣學樣，當下在AAU打球的高中生就沒有一個會投籃的。

[–]Cavaliersaussiefrzz16 64 指標 8小時前

But take Tristan Thompson, he has all the resources, coaching and time and the guy can』t shoot a 8 foot jumper. I don』t get it.

騎士球迷：想想TT,他有著所有訓練資源，教練和大把時間，但這朋友在油漆區附近都投不進球，真是搞不懂。

[–]Lakers6ca 46 指標 7小時前

Honestly I can"t believe it took until his third year in the league for him to figure out he was right handed.

TT打了三年NBA才意識到自己原來一直都不是左撇子（真事），你敢信？

[–]Kingssave_the_pigs 426 指標 9小時前

Fox and DSJ can build an entire town with all the bricks they threw up this season.

Fox actually has the highest 3pt percentage of all the players you mentioned. Just saying.

引用「福克斯和史密斯這哥倆姿勢沒啥毛病，但是他倆這賽季的產鐵量夠建一個CBD了。」

有一說一，在你列的這堆人中，福克斯的三分命中率可是排第一呢。

[–]george_pad 244 指標 8小時前

34% honestly that"s pretty good, I expected him to be struggling more

福克斯34%的三分命中率還真不錯啊，我本來以為他的命中率會更慘淡一些呢。

[–][IND] Victor Oladiposexualramen 67 指標 5小時前

IIRC his college 3P% was really bad. I think it was around 25%.

The guy"s actually improved quite a bit in the NBA.

沒記錯的話，福克斯大學時期的三分命中率慘不忍睹，大概25%左右？

小夥子在NBA這幾個月進步可不小啊！

[–]KingsGay_For_Papa_G 70 指標 8小時前

I』m baffled how well he shoots. Thought I』d be seeing a 20% season from him. I』m surprised that he doesn』t try to get open court fast break buckets more.

國王球迷：我挺疑惑為啥福克斯命中率有那麼高。開賽前還以為他這賽季的三分命中率只有20%呢，我很驚詫他為什麼不在比賽中尋求更多的全場快攻機會。

[–][NYK] Landry FieldsMultiplewubwubwubs 228 指標 10小時前

Frank is playing 30 min a game and just had his most shots of the season last game. Nothing like Monk at all lol

尼克斯球迷：尼利基納最近比賽里能上30分鐘呢，另外上場比賽他還刷新了生涯最多出手次數呢。和隔壁蒙克處境天上地下吧。

[–][NYK] Frank NtilikinaTheyTookChapua 136 指標 10小時前

Also don』t see how Monk not getting minutes is evidence of rookies not being able to shoot.

另外蒙克的低出場時間咋成今年新秀投籃水平捉急的論據了？一點關係也沒的啊好嗎。

[–][NYK] Landry FieldsMultiplewubwubwubs 58 指標 8小時前

Yeah. I mean that"s a clear strength of his lol

尼克斯球迷：哈哈誰說不是呢。投籃可是蒙克的最大亮點之一啊。

[–]Lakersmotorboat_mcgee 155 指標 9小時前

To be fair, Lonzo"s shot is dropping since December. It"s ugly, but it works.

湖人球迷：郵局港劇，球哥自12月之後投籃好了不少，姿勢雖丑但有用啊。

[–]LakerseZreazy 60 指標 7小時前

and with how terrible he started, I"m pretty surprised that for the list of players OP mentioned only fox and frank are shooting better percentages than him for the season.

湖人球迷：而且球哥賽季初命中率那麼慘淡，樓主列的這些人竟然只有福克斯和尼利基納的命中率比球哥高。

[–][GSW] Zarko CabarkapaIAmNotKevinDurant_35 281 指標 10小時前

this has been a significantly weak class in terms of shooting. so many teams continue to think they can fix a guy"s jumper, i"ve realized now that "offensively raw" prospects are labeled that way for a reason. Feels like the overwhelming majority of the time they won"t turn into good shooters.

bkx新秀投籃確實弱雞，很多球隊還認為他們能把新秀的投籃練出來呢。其實，我現在越來越明白的一點就是：球探把某些球員列為「糙哥」不是沒有原因的。大多數時候，不會投籃就是不會投籃，很少能有人突然開竅。

[–]colosusx1 32 指標 8小時前

Maybe it"s player development and coaching. Jaylen Brown was a raw prospect and he"s turned out decent enough so far. He isn"t a sharpshooter, but you can"t be disappointed in a 38% 3pt shooter. Then there"s Marcus Smart so idk lol.

這跟制服組對球員的培養和教練的水平是分不開的。新秀杰倫也被看作是糙哥，如今卻變為了靠譜的射手。雖然說他不算是神射手，但是38%的三分命中率絕對不賴啊。但是廠長斯瑪特投籃還是一如既往的鋼，我也不知道為什麼了哈哈，也許因人而異吧。

[–]Bulletsburnerfret 52 指標 10小時前

From everything I"ve read, next season"s class might be just as bad if not worse, so that should be super interesting.

就我目前所知，下屆新秀的投籃水平只會更差不會更好，有意思啦。

[–][GSW] Zarko CabarkapaIAmNotKevinDurant_35 107 指標 10小時前

there"s just more big men in this class. other than trae young and doncic (who"s 6"6 himself) the top guys are all 6"10 and taller (ayton, bagley, bamba, porter) .

這是因為下屆新秀大個子比較多，除了楊和東契奇（1.98m），其他的大概率樂透秀的身高都在2.08m甚至更高（艾頓，巴格萊，班巴和波特）

young is already a better shooter than any of the big guys in last year"s class. what made last year"s class so weird is the point guard talents at the top of the draft (and on top of that it was a lot of score-first point guards) and yet nobody can shoot. Even bagley is probably a better shooter than most of the rookie guards we have.

可以預見到，楊的投射能力絕對比今年的那些大個子新秀要好的多。今年選秀比較離奇的事是，這本是一個控衛大年（前幾順位的控衛還都是得分型控衛），但截至目前居然還沒人展現出自己的投籃能力。我猜明年的巴格萊的射術都要比今年這幫控衛老哥好一些。

i"m more okay if my center can"t shoot well but if my point guard is brick city from distance, that could be a fatal flaw when you go up against better coaches and teams in the playoffs

我能接受自己主隊的中鋒一點投籃都不會，但是如果自己的控衛能在一個賽季中就能築建出一座鋼鐵之城，這將是毀滅性的。但凡在季後賽中碰到好一點的教練或隊伍，控衛不會投籃這個弱點就會被無限放大，成為比賽的命門。

[–]Bulletsburnerfret 60 指標 10小時前

But there are a lot of guys who have the "if only he could shoot" label applied to them as well -- Diallo, Bridges, Trevon Duval, Colin Sexton. And, afaik, there"s not a Monk/Murray/Booker type shooting specialist either.

但是下屆新秀有很多「只要學會投籃下限不會低」屬性的球員，比如迪亞羅，布里奇斯，杜瓦爾和塞克斯頓。

就我所知，下屆新秀沒有像往年蒙克，穆雷，布克這種被標榜為投手專家屬性的新秀。

[–][SEA] Sam Perkinsyolo_lol_wut 131 指標 10小時前

How often do rookies come into the league as really good shooters? It"s something that is developed over time with lots of reps.

新秀剛進聯盟時就帶著神射手光環的可不多吧？投籃這種能力，是需要無數的比賽和訓練捶打之後才能更進一步的。

[–]102564 98 指標 7小時前

Since nobody』s mentioned Lauri yet: Lauri!

既然沒人提馬爾卡寧，那我就吹一下他吧，他就是帶著射手光環進的聯盟啊。

[–]KyKid98 125 指標 10小時前*

Curry and Klay, but obvs those guys are exceptions. Tatum started off really hot but has cooled off.

Edit: KAT came in as an elite midrange shooter and pretty good from 3 I guess if that counts

庫里和湯普森也是，不過顯然這倆都異於常人。就近的說吧，獺兔賽季初那段手感滾燙，不過現在涼了。

編輯：對了，唐斯進聯盟時就自帶菁英級中距離神射和不錯的遠投能力了，所以唐斯也該算一個。

[–]PacersNotoriusNC 25 指標 7小時前

Curry and Klay aslo played like 3 years of college ball which probably helped

庫里和湯普森都在大學聯賽待了三年，所以我想想這一定對他們的投籃有所幫助。

[–][UTA] Gordon HaywardLeonardosClone 78 指標 9小時前

Cooled off, yes. But the kid has a beautiful shot and can get open looks at 3 or Mid range. JT is a god damn Vet

獺兔最近是涼了，但是他的出手姿勢還是一如既往的漂亮，另外空位3分/中投的機會他一般都還把握的住，他看起來根本不像是個新秀。

[–]Wizardswaywaymack 43 指標 7小時前

Beal shot 38% from 3 as a rookie, pretty good number

奇才球迷：比爾新秀時期的三分命中率就有38%了，挺不錯的數據。

[–]Heatspiralmadness 35 指標 7小時前

Josh Richardson shot 46% from 3 as a rookie

熱火球迷：約什-理查德森新秀時期的三分命中率達到了46%。

[–]RaptorsDreamCatcher24 15 指標 7小時前

KD shot 29% from 3 as a rookie and he was touted as a good shooter coming into the NBA

KD在進入聯盟前被捧為優秀射手，然而他第一年的三分命中率卻只有29%。

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