回顧雷霆三少歷程，像魔戒三部曲，在一起或不能兌現潛力？

回顧雷霆三少各自歷程，像魔戒三部曲，如在一起或不能兌現潛力？

雷霆鐵三角現在都成長為了MVP級別的球員，威少對此表示：「能和他倆打球真是上天賜予的福分，不光如此，與此同時，我還能夠了解並理解他們（哈登和杜蘭特）各自達到今天的水平所踏過的歷程，我真的很感激。」

[Katz] Russ on the former OKC trio of himself/KD/Harden becoming MVP-caliber players: 「It』s a blessing to be able to play with each one of those guys, but at the same time know & understand each individual journey it took for them to get to the level they』re at」

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookarkansas_elk 856 指標 7小時前

Smh stat padding his humbleness

雷霆球迷：哎，威少這個大刷子又在刷他的謙遜值了！

[–]76ersRepsForKoreanJesus 129 指標 6小時前 

Reporters: Wait a minute. How did this happen? We"re smarter than this.

記者：怎麼回事？他咋不懟我們了？咱的聰明才智到哪裡去了。

[–]Rocketsswaggy_p 172 指標 6小時前 

I wish Russ would open up more in his interviews and give responses like this. I get it must be annoying be asked same shit every day, but he really does give good insight when he answers like this.

火箭球迷：我希望威少在以後的採訪中更加敞開心扉，像這樣給予回應。我明白每天都會被問到同樣的廢話肯定很煩人，但當他做出這樣的回應時，他很好的表達了自己的見解。

[–]Thunderline_6 73 指標 5小時前 

He mostly hates our local media, and does his best to screw up whatever narratives they try to get out of him. He"s pretty good on ESPN and TNT, and he"s done a few exclusives where he talks pretty openly.

雷霆球迷：威少主要是討厭鵝城當地媒體，媒體想給威少捆綁點啥話題，威少就竭盡全力想要把那些話題揉成粉碎。他在ESPN和TNT（採訪里）表現得挺好的，他也做過一些獨家訪談，跟記者敞開心扉地討論。

[–][GSW] Jason Richardsonthesixth 11 指標 3小時前 

wait really? what happened? I guess it makes sense out of all the superstars I feel like you hear the least from Russ himself, mostly just anecdotes from around him if that makes sense.

勇士球迷：神馬，真的嗎？發生了什麼？可能這就是為什麼威少是所有超巨里最不愛發表言論的那個。咱們球迷大多只能從威少身邊的人那裡獲取邊角余料的故事。

[–]Rocketsrecursion8 32 指標 3小時前 

Probably cus OKC only has 1 professional sports franchise in the Big 4 leagues, so they get all the (negative) attention of the local sports media.

火箭球迷：可能是因為鵝城只有雷霆這一個職業體育隊（四大聯盟中），所以他們吸引了當地體育媒體的所有注意力（包括負面的）。

[–][GSW] Jason Richardsonthesixth 11 指標 3小時前 

yeah that makes sense, I guess I just never realized he"s so anti-beat reporter

勇士球迷：有道理。我之前從來沒有意識到威少這麼抗拒特約記者。

[–][OKC] Desmond Masonpege-westbrook 29 指標 2小時前 

He took the full blame for everything that went wrong when KD was here. Suddenly KD leaves and Westbrook is the media darling. The north remembers though.

雷霆球迷：杜蘭特還在我雷的時候，威少就是那個背鍋俠。現在他走了，威少又成了鵝城媒體的寵兒。但是威少爺可記仇啊。

[–]ClippersPMinisterOfMalaysia 9 指標 1小時前 

Didn"t Russ also get mad at that reporter who called out KD in the paper? I"m sure that even though that reporter doesn"t represent everyone, it still left an impression on Russ

好像威少也對那個在報紙上寫杜蘭特負面新聞的記者發飆了吧？即使那位記者不能代表所有人，威少肯定也對他有印象啊。

[–]Thunderbreakshot 13 指標 1小時前 

Yes, that"s Berry Tramel, the same reporter who wouldn"t give up the mic last year when Westbrook was running interference on his question to Adams about why OKC"s numbers were so bad when WB sat. We have a lot of "good ol boys" here that have immense respect in the NCAA world, and they expect that same respect in professional sports. They despise when they don"t get it. As a result, there is a tension-filled relationship between Russ and a lot of the radio/paper guys.

雷霆球迷：是的，那是Berry Tramel。去年季後賽他問亞當斯：為什麼威少下場休息的時候雷霆的各項數據那麼糟糕。然後威少就阻止Berry Tramel問這個問題，但是後者依然死咬不放。我們鵝城有很多老派作風的媒體人，他們在NCAA界備受尊重，所以他們也希望在職業體育中得到同樣的尊重。當他們得不到尊重時，就覺得被輕視了。因此，這也導致了威少和很多電台/媒體人之間的緊張關係。

[–]SunsZepsune 515 指標 6小時前 

The Thunder had a team of 23 year old stars in the finals. That"s insane when you think about. It"s a rebuilding teams dream.

那年總決賽的雷霆有三個二十三歲左右的球星啊！仔細想想還真挺不可思議。重建球隊做夢都想有這樣的陣容啊。

[–]Rocketssean85 155 指標 4小時前 

That is very young. Wow.

火箭球迷：哇，二十三歲，雷霆三少那時候也太嫩了吧。

[–]BullsBlackMathNerd 136 指標 3小時前 

Back to back to back drafts of getting absolute studs.

而且雷霆在連續三年的選秀大會中都選到了超巨。

[–]Thunderrabidbot 47 指標 2小時前 

Also snuck in Ibaka and Adams. Love me some presti draft.

雷霆球迷：我雷還選中了伊巴卡和亞當斯。普雷斯蒂選秀操作強無敵。

[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesrzpieces 50 指標 1小時前 

Adams was off the Harden trade tho I thought

我記得選亞當斯的那個簽位是雷霆交易哈登得到的吧。

[–]Thundernewman796 498 指標 6小時前 

We wouldn"t need this if they paid fucking Harden

雷霆球迷：MLGB，當初雷霆要是下狠心給哈登大合同，咱現在還用扯這些沒味的屁嗎？！

[–]Suns TankwagonRemarkableJob 247 指標 6小時前 

I"m so sad about the trade still. Could have been one of the all time great dynasty"s especially considering the summer of 2016 massively raised the cap so they wouldn"t have had to pay a huge bill for that long

我仍然對哈登的交易無法釋懷。如果當時留下了哈登，雷霆很可能打造出一支歷史級別的王朝球隊啊，尤其是考慮到2016夏天工資帽大幅度上漲，所以雷霆不需要交太長時間的奢侈稅。

[–]nkashyap14 135 指標 5小時前 

Them versus the warriors would have been such a fascinating storyline as we would have viewed the Warriors as these upstart underdogs who would be challenging the kings of the NBA.

要是雷霆沒放走哈登，雷霆VS勇士的劇本將會多麼精彩啊！這樣以來，勇士就會被看作是挑戰NBA巨鱷的挑戰者。

[–][IND] Myles TurnerLightning_Boi 102 指標 5小時前 

And then you still have LeBron. I"d rather be in that nba timeline rn...

步行者球迷：而且勒布朗還是那個屹立不倒的勒布朗。三足鼎立多麼精彩啊，我寧願哈登沒走。

[–]RaptorsThaNorth 18 指標 4小時前 

Harden also wouldn"t have flourished as he did in Houston if he stayed in OKC. Both had a chance to flourish by getting high usage rate.

如果哈登留在OKC，他也不會像在火箭這樣進入自己的全盛時代。他和威少都是通過獲得高使用率而瘋狂成長的。

[–]Bigfish150 35 指標 2小時前 

I really think this is overstated. I think harden would have eventually started and been a very good fit next to kd and russ.

樓上的，我覺得你有點誇大其詞了。要是哈登留在了雷霆，他最後肯定能打上首發的，在杜蘭特和威少身邊的哈登簡直完美兼容啊。

 [–][CHI] Lauri MarkkanenTheSufferingPariah 394 指標 6小時前 

They all had to go their separate ways to unlock their final forms. For James, his final form was one of ultimate efficiency, never making a wasted move or taking a bad shot. For Russell, his final form was one of ultimate volume, maximizing his production in all major statistical categories. For Kevin, his final form was one of ultimate teamwork, joining the best team he could find to make his road that much harder.

雷霆三少都必須分道揚鑣才能解鎖自己的最終模式。對哈登來說，他的終極模式就是終極高效打法，從不浪費機會，也不浪投。對威少來說，他的最終形式是最大值，最大化他在所有主要統計類別中的產量。對於KD來說，他的最終形態則是究極團隊力量——加入了他能找到的最好的球隊，使他的路更加艱難。

[–]Timberwolvescranberrypanda69 101 指標 5小時前 

Never forget the hardest road

永遠不要忘記最艱難的路。

[–]CavaliersKayFeldersAlt 115 指標 7小時前 

The breaking of the fellowship. Except Frodo took his fucking talents and joined Mordor.

Edit: Come to think of it, Durant it a lot like Sarumon, except if Sarumon was into tech and was a really philanthropic nice guy who couldn"t grow that rowdy ass beard.

雷霆三少散夥的故事可命名為：《魔戒：護戒使者的分道揚鑣》。不過不同的是，佛羅多[譯註1]帶著他媽的天賦加入了魔多[譯註2]。

編輯：仔細想想，杜蘭特挺像薩魯曼[譯註3]的，要是薩魯曼喜歡科技產業，並且是一個樂善好施的好人[譯註4]，也沒那麼長的鬍子就更像了。

[譯註1]：指環王中的人物佛羅多·巴金斯（Frodo Baggins），他忍受著至尊魔戒的誘惑來到末日火山。經過千辛萬苦之後，最終在那裡摧毀了魔戒。

[譯註2]：魔多: 地名，於中土世界東南方，歸屬黑魔王索倫（Sauron）管轄.

[譯註3]：薩魯曼（Saruman），人稱「白袍薩魯曼」，他是最廣為人知的邁雅之一，掌控艾辛格，發現了真知晶球，在第三紀元他以埃斯塔力（巫師）的身份暗助反抗索倫的中土勢力，但後來受到索倫引誘而墮落。

[譯註4]杜蘭特投資了矽谷的多個公司，而且熱衷於慈善事業。

[–]ThunderLeavingtheecstasy 31 指標 7小時前 

Frodo is Westbrook. just because he stayed. The pressure is also more on him to see if he can win.

雷霆球迷：威少留在了鵝城，所以佛羅多應該是威少[譯註2]，而且威少現在獲勝的壓力也更大，這跟弗羅多當時經受的巨大考驗吻合。

[譯註5]：佛羅多在魔戒*河蟹*結束後，佛羅多於3021年離開中土，前往維林諾，最終將安靜的死去。

[–][HOU] Nene HilarioThatbrasiliankid 63 指標 7小時前 

Man if you"re going that route Westbrook is clearly Samwise. He was the only one to not fall into the temptation of the ring, Frodo was much weaker mentally

火箭球迷：兄弟，如果你這麼說的話，那麼威少的軌跡更像Sam[譯註6]。他是唯一一個不會陷入魔戒誘惑的人，佛羅多在精神上弱得多

[譯註6]：山姆衛斯·加德納（Samwise Gardner），簡稱山姆（Sam），是魔戒三部曲中的角色，是佛羅多·巴金斯（Frodo Baggins）的傭人和朋友，

[–]Rocketssbleezy 30 指標 6小時前 

Frodo was the ringbearer, not a fair comparison

佛羅多是魔戒持有者，這不是一個合理的對比啊

[–]Rocketstwerdy 36 指標 6小時前 

But Sam was the Frodo bearer.

但是Sam是佛羅多持有者啊。

[–]drew4382 251 指標 7小時前 

Still think this team would"ve turned into the Warriors before the Warriors had they not traded Harden and started him instead.

我仍然認為如果當年的雷霆三少沒散夥，並將哈登提上首發的話，他們會取代勇士成為王朝球隊。

[–]Rocketsswaggy_p 226 指標 6小時前 

I think if they had the right coaching and system they really would have won multiple championships. I think people often overlook how important Kerr is to Warriors. People saw Luke or Mike Brown coach the team and lead them to victories but Kerr really set the offensive fundamentals for that team. It"s easy to coach that team once they already bought into the system.

火箭球迷：我認為，如果雷霆當年有合適的教練和健全的球隊體系，他們真的會贏得多個冠軍。人們經常忽視科爾對勇士的重要性。人們只看到了盧克-沃頓或邁克-布朗也能執教球隊並取得勝利，但卻忽視了科爾打下的堅實地基。當球員都已經百分百對球隊體系的買賬後，那你再執教不就容易多了嘛。

I remember reading article on how first training camp they had under Kerr he made that do basic passing drills and they hated it. But that really set the fundamentals for their offense to make everyone feel involved.

我看過一篇文章，描述的是科爾接手勇士後第一次舉辦訓練。他（讓球隊）做了基本的傳球訓練，而球員們並不喜歡這樣的練習。但這確實為勇士人人參與的進攻體系夯實了基礎。

Here is the quote I"m talking about:

Bogut said:

I still remember the first training camp we had under coach Kerr. We were doing basic passing drills into the passing net, like left-handed passes, right-hand, overhead, and doing dribbling drills through cones, and a lot of guys were pissed because they were like, "Hey, we"re NBA guys, we don"t need to be doing this stuff." But coach Kerr was like, "No, we"re going back to basics. You guys turn the ball over way too much. If we can limit our turnovers and just turn it over four or five times less per game, we"re going to win a championship."

找到啦:

博古特說：

我還記得科爾新上任後舉辦的第一個訓練營：我們就是做基本的傳球入網練習，比如左手傳球、右手傳球、頭上傳球。我們當時還用錐形障礙物做運球練習，當時很多人都挺不爽的，因為他們覺得：「嘿，我們是NBA球員，我們不需要做這種練習。」但是教練說，「不，我們要回爐重造，你們失誤太多了。如果我們能限制我們的失誤，每場比賽減少個四、五次失誤，我們就能贏得總冠軍。」

But it was more than just making solid passes. It was getting everyone to buy into a system of selflessness. Bogut continued:

但這不僅僅是關於傳好球，科爾的理念是要讓每個人都融入到這個無私的體系里。博古特繼續說道：

Guys were kind of like, "Ugh, we don"t want to do these petty little drills," but after a couple of weeks I think guys understood what he was trying to relay onto us. And it was genius in a way, because it"s just instilling the little things, like making the right pass, getting to a jump-stop, hitting your teammate on the chest so that he can get a nice rhythm into his jumper, and it just worked out perfectly.

當時大家的意思就是，「呃，我們不想做這些沒屁用的小練習」。但幾周後，我認為大家都明白了科爾想要傳達給我們的東西。這還真的是天才的舉動，因為他就是給我們灌輸一點一點的細節，比如做出正確的傳球、正確落到投籃位、給隊友傳胸前球從而能讓他獲得不錯的投籃節奏，獲得了完美的成效。

[–]Suns TankwagonRemarkableJob 154 指標 6小時前 

Yet the 14 year olds on this sub are trying to tell me Kerr is overrated.

Kerr completly overhauled the culture of that team

然而這個話題區里十四歲的小屁孩卻告訴我科爾被高估了。

科爾完全對勇士的文化進行了徹底改造。

[–]Warriorsfamoustran 23 指標 6小時前 

I"d imagine most of the fans here would want Kerr as their teams" head coach.

勇士球迷：我想大多數球迷都希望科爾能成為他們球隊的主教練。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliPrimid47 27 指標 4小時前 

I"m good

馬刺球迷：我們不用啦。

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