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利拉德坦言自己渴望奪冠,美網友熱議其是否會離隊

Lillard: "I would like to win a championship as bad as anybody..."


利拉德:"我對奪冠的渴望不比任何一個人差。"





"but because of who I am, I』d get a lot more satisfaction if I got it the hard way,」 Lillard says. 「If I can』t figure it out here and I never win one, I can live with the effort I put into it. I can live with it maybe not happening for me. I』m going to roll with this team regardless of what people may feel about our chances. I』m going to live and die with this.」


Source: https://www.si.com/nba/2018/04/05/damian-lillard-dame-time-portland-trail-blazers-oakland


"但是基於我的個性,要是這個冠軍是在克服了重重艱難險阻以後拿到的,那樣我會獲得更多滿足感",利拉德說:"如果在這裡我沒能做到,拿不到冠軍,那隻要努力過我也不後悔,我能接受終生無冠這種事情。不管別人怎麼想,我想要和這支球隊共患難,我想要把整個職業生涯奉獻給這支球隊。"


消息源: https://www.si.com/nba/2018/04/05/damian-lillard-dame-time-portland-trail-blazers-oakland








[–]Spursknot2x_Oz 3778 指標 15小時前 


Davis should team up with Dame

戴維斯應該和利拉德組一隊啊。




[–]Raptorsdrthurgood 885 指標 12小時前 


They already have Ed Davis


他們不是已經有艾德-戴維斯了嗎?




[–][POR] Brandon RoyNevermoreSEA 219 指標 9小時前 


Ed Davis is the rebound god.


開拓者球迷:艾德-戴維斯就是籃板之神。



[–][NOP] Carldrell Johnson8512332158 180 指標 12小時前 


Dame was going to us in mocks but Portland had their shit together and drafted him at 6


鵜鶘球迷:按照模擬選秀的順位利拉德本來應該來我鳥的,結果開拓者終於振作了一把,沒瞎jb選,在第六位截胡了他。




[–]Trail Blazerstoadtruck 94 指標 9小時前 


Makes me feel better for taking Webster over CP3


開拓者球迷1:又想起我們當年選了韋伯斯特而錯過保羅的事,幸虧我們還有利拉德。




[–]Trail Blazers1980ushockey 125 指標 8小時前 


Never speak of this again.

開拓者球迷2:請永遠別再提這事好嗎。






[–]Pelicansvolzovio 1157 指標 15小時前 


Lillard, Holiday, Doesnt Matter, Davis, Cousins


:)


鵜鶘球迷:利拉德,霍勒迪,愛誰誰,戴維斯,考辛斯,這陣容,還有誰?!




[–]CavaliersBuzzedWoody 814 指標 13小時前 


Doesn』t Matter

I thought he was projected to go in the lottery? Would be a crazy draft if he fell all the way to Portland


愛誰誰?我還以為這個人已經鐵定會進樂透區了,要是他掉到開拓者那個順位就太有意思了。




[–][POR] Damian Lillardmontyberns 393 指標 12小時前 


Seriously. After we somehow manage to pick up Holiday, Boogie, and Davis? That"d be one hell of an offseason.


開拓者球迷1:講真,要是我們真的搞來了霍勒迪,考辛斯和戴維斯,那這個休賽季操作可真是秀出天際了。




[–][POR] Channing FryeCorr521 182 指標 12小時前 


You really think all 3 would be willing to move to Portland? That would be cool


開拓者球迷2:你真的以為鵜鶘這三個人都願意搬到波特蘭?哈哈哈那敢情好。



[–]Trail Blazersthorhyphenaxe 148 指標 12小時前* 


No no


Lillard


McCollum


Moe/ET/Aminu


Anthony Davis


Nurk


開拓者球迷3:不不不,應該是這樣的陣容:利拉德,麥科勒姆,哈克利斯/特納/阿米奴,安東尼-戴維斯,努爾基奇。



[–]Trail BlazersRipCity_TID 48 指標 10小時前 


Seriously this. Why would you want to break up the second or third best backcourt in the league? That doesn"t really make much sense to me.


開拓者球迷4:樓上的老哥說得對呀,為啥要拆散聯盟第二好或者第三好的後場組合呢?根本沒道理呀。




[–]GeneralsOfficialGloryHunter 82 指標 9小時前 


Why would you want to break up the best front court in the league?


那為啥要拆散聯盟第一的內線組合呢?更加說不通呀。






[–][POR] Brandon RoyNevermoreSEA 1450 指標 15小時前* 

I really hope he spends his entire career in Portland. I have so much love and respect for him. Can"t imagine him on another team.


開拓者球迷:我真的希望他整個職業生涯都在開拓者,對這個傢伙我有太多愛和尊重,沒法想像他轉投別隊啊。




[–]RocketsZoldyckR 787 指標 15小時前 


Dame"s own satisfaction > Durants Greed


火箭球迷:利拉德的自我滿足感大於杜蘭特的貪心。




[–]CavaliersLeBornKing 462 指標 14小時前 


Durants Greed > Chris Pauls Lust


騎士球迷:杜蘭特的貪心大於保羅的*河蟹*。



[–]Snowmann88 354 指標 13小時前 


Chris Paul』s lust > John Walls Envy


保羅的*河蟹*大於沃爾的妒忌。




[–]Rocketsbuddhistan 255 指標 13小時前 


John Walls Envy > Russell Westbrook』s Triple Doubles


火箭球迷:沃爾的妒忌大於威斯布魯克的場均三雙。




[–]CavaliersYash_We_Can 703 指標 13小時前 


Russell Westbrook"s Triple Doubles > James Harden"s 29/11/8


騎士球迷:威斯布魯克的場均三雙大於哈登的場均29+11+8。




[–]76ersthisdudefux 214 指標 13小時前 


I can"t wait to see how many ppl are triggered by this lol


我就想看看會有多少人被樓上這條評論刺激到哈哈哈。




[–]CavaliersKayFeldersAlt 142 指標 13小時前 


In Ainge we trust > Trust the Process.


騎士球迷:信安吉得永生大於相信過程。






[–][OKC] Raymond FeltonDTttfu 505 指標 13小時前* 


God I love Dame. Except for when he torches us. Then I just kinda love him


Edit: can a Portland fan please explain to me why y』all hate Felton so much? I』m out of the loop


雷霆球迷:我愛死利拉德了,除了他虐我雷的時候,那就不是愛死他了,而是降成有點稀罕他。PS:哪位開拓者球迷能給我科普一下為啥你們都那麼討厭費爾頓啊?我沒跟上趟兒。




[–]Trail BlazersStreetMailbox 205 指標 9小時前 


He challenged fans to fight him at his apartment and even gave his address to reporters (who reported the BUILDING he lived in - the Indigo - but not the actual apartment number, which was probably smart).


He also came into camp wayyyy out of shape.


So yeah, fuck Felton.


開拓者球迷:他挑釁球迷到他住的公寓面對面打架,甚至還把自己的地址給了記者(就是那個爆料他住址的記者,沒記錯的話是Indigo這個公寓,但是機智的是,他就給了大樓的地址,沒給具體的房間號),而且他當時回到球隊參加訓練營的時候身體嚴重走形了,所以沒錯,去特么的費爾頓。




[–][OKC] Raymond FeltonDTttfu 63 指標 9小時前 


Lmao holy shit


還是那個雷霆球迷:原來如此哈哈哈,笑死我了。




[–]Trail BlazersPacificVIking 58 指標 9小時前* 


He also was a locker room cancer when he was here. Portland has an extremely low tolerance for "low character" players. We want our guys engaged, in the community and to always give 100% on the court. Felton reminded us of the jail blazer era, the tail end of which basically made the city say "fuck this team... for now"


開拓者球迷:而且當年他還是個更衣室毒瘤,開拓者對這種職業素養差和品行不良的球員不會容忍太久,我們希望隊里的球員有專註的態度,無論是在社區活動中還是在場上。費爾頓讓我們想起『波特蘭監獄』時期,那段時期末尾,所有波特蘭球迷的態度都是『暫時去特么的開拓者吧』。




Brandon Roy and Lamarcus, but mostly Roy brought us back in. Even our GM knows we"d basically stop showing up to games if it looked like we were returning to those days.


是布蘭頓-羅伊和阿爾德里奇把我們帶出泥潭的(主要還是羅伊)。如果我拓有回到那段黑暗時期的跡象,就連我們的總經理都知道球迷們是不會去現場觀看比賽的。






[–][DAL] Josh Howardpiotrsen 777 指標 13小時前 


Look no further than Dirk


獨行俠球迷:利拉德可以跟德國老司機取取經。




[–]username--_-- 348 指標 13小時前 


Dirks team was top in the west throughout his prime, and also made the finals.


可是德克生涯的整個巔峰時期里你俠都是排名西部前列的隊伍,還進過總決賽。




[–][DAL] Josh Howardpiotrsen 661 指標 13小時前 


Just like the Thunder but KD still left. Both were elite squads but could never get over the hump - the point being that Dirk stuck it out and because of that his one ring imo is far more meaningful than if he had chased multiple elsewhere


獨行俠球迷:我俠當時的情況和雷霆其實挺像的,區別就在於杜蘭特選擇出走而德克選擇留下。這兩支球隊班底都不錯,就是很長時間內一直沒能跨過最後的那道坎,重點在於德克熬過去了並且最後成功奪冠,所以他那一冠在我心目中地位很高,要比他在別的球隊拿到好幾冠意義要高得多。




[–][SAS] Manu Ginobilipintvricchio 146 指標 12小時前 


One ring to rule them all


至尊戒馭眾戒。

[譯註1]


[譯註1]《魔戒》著名台詞。




[–]TimberwolvesPrikli 370 指標 12小時前 


Totally agreed. Dirk"s championship means more than 3 GSW + KD championships to me.


完全同意,對我來說德克那一冠要比勇士+杜蘭特的三冠都要有意義。




[–]MavericksShaunosaurus 206 指標 12小時前* 


Well, to be fair, Golden State』s 2015 chip is similar to the Mavs as that team was mostly homegrown.


Edit: on second thought, the fact that they beat an injury riddled Cavs team kinda dampens it bit.


呃,公平的說,金州勇士15年那個冠軍和獨行俠這個挺像的,奪冠班底大多數是自家球隊選的。PS:又想了下,考慮到他們擊敗的是一支傷兵滿營的騎士,給這個冠軍減色一點點吧。




[–]nowhathappenedwas 148 指標 11小時前 


Golden State』s 2015 chip is similar to the Mavs as that team was mostly homegrown.


Dirk and Barea were pretty much the only important parts of that Mavs team that were homegrown. Kidd, Terry, Butler, Marion, Chandler, Peja, Haywood, and Stevenson were all vets acquired through trades or FA.


"金州勇士15年那個冠軍和獨行俠這個挺像的,奪冠班底大多數是自家球隊選的",


這就不對了,那支獨行俠奪冠主要班底里只有德克和巴里亞是自己選的,基德,特里,巴特勒,馬里昂,錢德勒,佩賈,海伍德還有史蒂文森都是通過交易或者自由球員簽約的老兵。




[–]Mavericksarg061000 89 指標 11小時前 


Yeah, not sure why people would have considered that Mavs team homegrown. We didn"t have a clear superstar outside of Dirk but we have always been a team that acquires pieces through FA and rarely build them in house.


獨行俠球迷:對的,不明白為啥人們都覺得那支獨行俠球員大多數是他們自己選的,我們當時除了德克就沒有別的超級球星了,但是我俠一直是支從自由市場撈球員的球隊,很少在自家打造新兵。




[–]RaptorsJones3787 57 指標 11小時前 


He"s only talking about "GSW + KD" championships though


不過那位老哥只是在說杜蘭特+勇士的冠軍啊,所以2015年的不在討論範圍。




[–]MavericksShaunosaurus 96 指標 11小時前 


Ah, gotcha. Yeah fuck KD.


獨行俠球迷:這樣啊懂了,去特么的KD!






[–]CavaliersLeBornKing 228 指標 14小時前 


That"s what they all say.


Dame is only 27. Lets see what he says when he"s 30 and the Blazers are no closer to winning the title.


This blind loyalty to franchises is stupid and ridiculous. These same franchises will trade Lillard in a second if they can get a better player in return.


騎士球迷:大傢伙都是這麼說的。


利拉德現在才27,等他到了30歲而開拓者還是奪冠無望的話你再看他會怎麼說。


這種對球隊的盲目忠誠愚蠢又荒唐,這些球隊管理層都是一個尿性,如果有更好的回報,他們會立刻交易掉利拉德。




[–]Raptorsderozansmole 1658 指標 15小時前 


Durant said the same thing one time. In fact, he mocked LeBron for his decision to leave.


沒錯,杜蘭特曾經也說過類似的話,而且實際上他還嘲諷過詹姆斯離開的決定呢。




[–]PelicansMississippster 82 指標 11小時前 


Didnt he say in a tweet, "now everyone wanna play for the heat or Lakers. we should be going after these peoples" more or less?


他那推特是不是這樣說的:"現在好像所有人都想去熱火或者湖人打球,我們應該揍這些球隊才是啊",差不多吧?




[–][POR] Brandon RoyNevermoreSEA 944 指標 15小時前 


Durant and Dame also have very different personalities and attitudes towards the game.


開拓者球迷:可是杜蘭特和利拉德個性迥異,對比賽的態度也不一樣。




[–]Raptorsderozansmole 766 指標 15小時前 


We all thought we knew what Durant was like. It turned out to be widely incorrect. The point is people"s words are only as valuable as their options and situation


我們都曾自以為自己了解杜蘭特是什麼樣的人,結果完全大跌眼鏡啊。


我要表達的重點是,一個人說的話是根據他當時所處的境地和所持有的選項而定的。




[–]JazzWeberStateWildcat 137 指標 10小時前 


I"ve followed Lillard since his first year in college (see username). I"d be shocked as shit if he does anything that even remotely shows disloyalty. Larger schools came calling when Lillard showed up on their radar after he showed some success at Weber State. He stuck around since Weber State were the first ones willing to give him a chance.


爵士球迷:利拉德上大一的時候我就是他的粉了(看我ID就懂了),這麼說吧,如果他做出哪怕一丁點有損忠誠的舉動,我都會非常震驚。當時他在韋伯州立大學嶄露頭角以後,那些籃球名校們紛紛打電話來想挖走他,他還是堅守在學校,因為韋伯州立大學是第一個給他機會打球的學校。




Not to say he won"t ever leave Portland, since the NBA is very different from college, but if he does, it will be in the classiest way possible.


我也不是說利拉德就永遠不會離開開拓者,鑒於NBA和大學完全不同。但就算利拉德真的離開了,那也絕對是好聚好散,非常和諧的分別。




[–][POR] Brandon RoyNevermoreSEA 223 指標 15小時前 


Can you imagine Dame throwing his teammates under the bus like Durant did after he left? Durant seems to have a much bigger ego than Dame does. I know it"s easy to compare guys who say things like this, because there have been a lot of stars who have said something like this. That said, I don"t think Dame and KD are comparable situations.


開拓者球迷:杜蘭特在離開雷霆後噴過隊友,你能想像利拉德做出這種事兒來嗎?杜蘭特的自負心看起來要比利拉德大得多。我知道,把表過忠心的球員做比較很正常,但是我不覺得利拉德和杜蘭特的情況可以類比。




I think the only situation where Dame would leave is if the Blazers weren"t making him a good enough offer, which is very unlikely.


I understand why many people are skeptical though.


我認為利拉德主動離開開拓者只有一種可能,就是球隊合同錢給少了,目前看起來這基本不可能,不過我也理解大家質疑他可能離開的立場啦。




[–]TheParquetPosse 383 指標 15小時前 


I thought KD was one of the most humble players in the league in the early years of OKC. I don"t think Dame would do that but you never know.


杜蘭特在雷霆打球早期我還覺得他是聯盟里最謙遜的球員之一呢,我不覺得利拉德會步他後塵,但是未來的事兒誰知道呢。




[–][MIA] Shane BattierBlackEygptian 207 指標 14小時前 


KD was Mr. Nice Guy once before.


熱火球迷:杜蘭特以前也曾是好好先生的形象啊。




[–]Thunderrabidbot 159 指標 12小時前 


KD with the backpack and the van...simpler times.


雷霆球迷:想起了那個書包杜,那個開著小麵包的杜蘭特……歲月青蔥、單純地可愛啊。






[–]Pelicansvolzovio 447 指標 15小時前 


This is the correct mindset imo.


Being the GOAT franchise player >>>>>>> Ring


鵜鶘球迷:一個人,一座城,這才是正確的職業球員心態啊。


成為一個球隊的圖騰的意義遠大於奪冠。




[–]Lakersstubbysquidd 243 指標 15小時前 


Winning a ring as the franchise GOAT >>>>>>>>>> Bandwagoning to a super team or winning a ring as the 3rd option.


湖人球迷:作為隊史最偉大球員奪冠的意義遠大於去一支超級球隊抱大腿或者作為球隊第三選擇躺冠。




[–]Knicks Tankwagonaoifhasoifha 565 指標 13小時前 


The correct mindset is


focusing on your goals and what makes you happy >>>>>>> letting somebody else decide what defines your value


The man is fully committed to the choices he makes and he understand why he makes them (and that basketball isn"t all that important, all things considered). Much respect.


尼克斯球迷:正確的心態應該是:專註於你的目標和讓你開心的事情遠大於讓其他人定義你人生的價值。


利拉德完全堅守自己的選擇,而且他清楚他為何做出這樣的決定(還有就是,考慮到其他方方面面,籃球並沒有那麼重要)。尊重!




[–]NuggetsThe_Loop_Digga 145 指標 12小時前* 


Ding ding ding. There is no blanketed 「correct」 decision among chasing money, chasing a championship, or remaining loyal to a team, regardless.


咳咳,我來表達一下我自己的看法,那就是沒有所謂放之四海而皆準的"正確"決定,不管是追求金錢,追求冠軍,或者是對一個球隊保持忠誠,都不是。




As sports fans, we tend to view athletes as athletes (not as regular people) because we only know them as athletes. I』ve never met any of these people (save for Payne & Canaan, shouts to Murray State).


作為運動蜜,我們眼裡的運動員通常只是運動員的形象(和普通人不同),因為我們認識的他們只有這一個身份,現實生活中我也從來沒遇見過他們中的任何人(這句話等到我去現場看完佩恩之後就要發生改變啦,莫瑞州立大學威武!)




Because we view them in this regard, we view their decisions through a prism of 「what』s best for his legacy?」, which is ultimately sports radio fodder bullshit if you ask me.


正因為我們僅用一種視角看待他們,所以我們在評判他們的選擇時就不免帶了濾鏡,就會想:"怎樣做決定才能提高他們的歷史地位?",這種想法在我看來絕對就是體育電台爭論不休的經典代表,完全沒意義。




If a player cares about his legacy, that』s great. If a player wants to use his talents to maximize his bank account, that』s great too. If a player wants to work with a winner, great.


如果一個球員在意他的歷史地位,那很棒;如果一個球員只想利用他的天賦為自己掙錢,那也很棒;如果一個球員想和贏家一起打球,同樣很棒。




Ultimately, the 「correct」 decision is what』s best for the player』s interest. I』m just a fan; I can』t tell Dame the 「correct」 way to live his life. Do I think Melo 「made a mistake」 by spending a chunk of his prime on the Knicks? Only if he』s unhappy about his choice.


最終,"正確"的決定其實就是最符合該球員利益的決定。我就是個球迷,沒資格告訴利拉德怎樣才能"正確"地度過一生。我是否覺得安東尼把自己的大部分巔峰年華浪費在尼克斯是個錯誤呢?如果安東尼對自己的這個選擇不開心,那才真的是錯誤的決定。




Sorry for the rant, but it just bothers me that we, as sports fans, tell athletes what they should do, solely from our perspective or from some bullshit 「sports legacy」 perspective, but not from the perspective of the player himself.


不好意思絮絮叨叨了這麼多,只是我們作為體育粉絲,時常會評價運動員,告訴他們應該去做什麼,而這一切的出發點,只是站在我們自己的立場上或者什麼狗屁『運動史地位』立場,從來都不會站在運動員自己的立場上思考問題,這難道不是有問題的嗎?





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