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最沒價值球員:克勞福德當選,美網友為JR和TT「鳴不平」

the results are in for: LEAST Valuable Player


最沒價值球員評選結果公布啦!




But before we announce the award, here are some caveats:


--- Obviously, the worst players in the league are the ones who sit at the end of the bench and don"t get any playing time. However, this award is trying to "honor" the player who hurt their team the most this season, so we"re focusing on players who log heavy minutes (20+) and consequently negatively affected their team"s play the most. Simply put: the more you play, the more damage you can do.

但在正式宣布獲獎結果前,有幾點我們需要提前聲明一下:


顯然,聯盟中水平最為落後的,是那些坐在板凳席末端揮毛巾,沒有任何上場時間的球員。但這個獎的設立是為了「表彰」那些本賽季傷害自己球隊最多的球員,所以我們關注的是那些佔用了很多上場時間(超過20分鐘)並因此對他們球隊的發揮造成負面影響的球員。簡單來說就是,你上場越久,對球隊的傷害就越深。




--- And that actual "damage" is important. If you"re on a tanking team, no one cares about the damage you』re doing; it may even be a positive. I"m also ignoring young players (under 21) who are still developing and can"t be expected to be solid players yet.


——這種「傷害」的實際情況對於獎項考量也很重要。如果你是在一個擺爛球隊里的話,沒有人在乎你在場上的毒瘤表現,這種「傷害」甚至可能是積極的,所以這類球員不列入評選。同時不列入考慮名單的還有那些未滿21歲的年輕球員,他們還處於技能開發階段,所以我對他們的期望值並不是很高。




--- Similarly, we don"t want to judge players within the context of their salary any more than the actual MVP does. Bad contracts are the folly of a GM, not the player himself. We"re looking for failures on the court, not off it.


——同樣地,與MVP實際評選一樣,我們不會根據球員拿了多少工資來評判他的表現。爛合同是球隊總經理的鍋,並非球員本身。這裡我們只在球場論狗熊,場下因素忽略不計。




(dis)honorable mentions  (金酸梅)榮譽提名

JAE CROWDER and AVERY BRADLEY: Both have underwhelmed in a major way since leaving Boston. Turns out this Brad Stevens kid may be a decent coach after all.


傑-克勞德和埃弗里-布拉德利:自從離開波士頓,這兩位球員的表現均大幅下降。哎,你說還真邪門,少帥史蒂文斯可能還真是個好教練呢,TX。




DION WAITERS: If Waiters didn"t get injured, he may have been the frontrunner for this award. After signing a contract extension, his shooting predictably dropped like a rock, down from 39.5% from three last year to 30.6% this season.


Now without further ado, let"s get to our top 5.


迪昂-韋特斯:如果韋特斯沒受傷的話,他可能是這個獎項的領跑者。在與熱火續約後,他的投射能力便石沉大海,三分命中率從去年的39.5%到本賽季的30.6%。


話不多說,現在讓我們來看看前5名吧!






LEAST valuable players of 2017-18  

2017-18賽季最沒價值球員名單:


 


第五名


開拓者小前鋒埃文-特納,場均25.5分鐘,效率值9.9


(5) SF Evan Turner, Portland: 25.5 minutes per game, 9.9 PER




Again, we"re ignoring contract situations here, because it"s not Evan Turner"s fault that Portland overpaid him. That said, that bloated salary may motivate the Blazers to play Turner more than he deserves. He finished in the top 5 of LVP honors last season, and is a repeat nominee again this year.


這裡再強調一次,請自動忽略球員的合同情況,因為給他過高的工資不是特納本人的錯,是開拓者自己願意的。儘管這樣,這份過高的薪水可能會激發開拓者讓特納多打一點,多到特納根本配不上那麼多出場時間的地步。上賽季特納也成功上了最沒價值球員榜單的前5,今年再次光榮入選候選名單。




As a wing who doesn"t shoot threes, Turner will always be behind the eight ball. He"s actually inched his percentages up this year, but he"s still only at 33.1% from beyond the arc (with 0.5 makes per game.) On his best days, he makes up for that with his playmaking ability, but he doesn"t have much opportunity to do that in Portland, averaging only 2.2 assists per game. His defense is traditionally OK, although ESPN real plus/minus graded him as a negative on that end this season (-0.81) as well.

作為一個不會射3分的側翼球員,特納在球隊里的位置必定總是岌岌可危的。今年他的命中率實際上有所提高,但他的三分命中率仍然只有33.1%(場均出手0.5次)。在他表現最好的時候,他憑藉自己的組織能力彌補了這個短板,但在波特蘭他並沒有太多這樣的機會,場均助攻只有2.2次。他的防守一直還算可以,儘管ESPN真實正負值將他在本賽季防守端的表現評為負值(-0.81)。






第四名


騎士中鋒特里斯坦-湯普森:場均20.3分鐘,效率值13.6


(4) C Tristan Thompson, Cleveland: 20.3 minutes per game, 13.6 PER




In the modern NBA, you dream of a big man who can stretch the floor and protect the rim. Most often, you settle for one of the two.


Right now, Tristan Thompson is giving the Cavs neither. His range is severely limited, and he"s still shooting 55.3% from the line. More damning, he"s not protecting the back end on defense either. He"s averaging 0.3 blocks per game. That"s a grand total of 17 blocks on the season, one less than 6"0" Fred VanVleet.


當今NBA里,每個隊都夢想自己能有既能拉開空間、又能護筐的大個子。但一般來說,球隊們不得不將就,這兩個會一個就行。

目前看來,特里斯坦-湯普森在這兩方面對騎士的貢獻可以總結為:什麼都沒有。他的投射範圍非常有限,罰球命中率也只有55.3%。更可氣的是,他在防守端的籃板保護也沒做好。他場均0.3個蓋帽,也就是說整個賽季加起來他只有區區17個蓋帽,比身高只有1.83米的弗雷德-范弗利特還少了1個。




To his credit, Tristan Thompson is still an active rebounder. His average of 6.6 per game is even better than it looks given that 2.4 of those come on offense. That said, you can"t be a "one tool" player in the NBA anymore and be successful. That"s reflected in his advanced stats, with ESPN real plus/minus charted his impact as a -3.57 overall.


值得表揚的是,TT還算是一個積極的籃板手。他場均能拿到6.6個籃板,鑒於這裡面有2.4個是進攻籃板,這個數據也比看起來更有含金量。儘管如此,在當今NBA里,你再也不能只靠一樣技能就成功的啊。他的糟糕表現都體現在高階數據里了——ESPN真實正負值里顯示,他對球隊的影響為-3.57。






第三名


夏洛特黃蜂隊控衛邁克爾-卡特-威廉姆斯:場均16.1分鐘,效率值10.9


(3) PG Michael Carter-Williams, Charlotte: 16.1 minutes per game, 10.9 PER



We collectively raised our eyebrows when Charlotte signed PG Michael Carter-Williams this offseason. After all, MCW hadn"t played that well since his rookie season, with his shooting issues well documented. Surely, this would be a bust.


去年休賽期黃蜂簽下邁卡威的時候我們一個個都驚奇不已,畢竟這位哥在新秀賽季過後就沒有打得很好,他的投籃問題大家也是有目共睹的。所以很理所當然的,我們都認為他在這個賽季會打得不咋滴。




It didn"t go exactly the way we expected: it was even worse. Carter-Williams" field goal percentage dipped to an all-time low of 33.2% (note: that"s field goal percentage, not three point %). He"s a solid defender (+0.98 according to ESPN real plus/minus), but he can"t make up for an offensive liability that pronounced. Fortunately for him, MCW has only averaged 16 minutes over 52 games, which has limited his damage and prevented him from winning this trophy.


但事情的發展並不像我們所認為的那樣,他的表現甚至比我們預想的更差!卡特-威廉姆斯的投籃命中率降至33.2%的歷史最低點(注意:這是投籃命中率,而不是三分命中率)。他倒是一個可靠的防守者(ESPN真實正負值里+0.98),但這一點並不能彌補他在進攻上的短板。幸運的是,邁卡威在過去52場比賽里場均只有16分鐘的上場時間,限制了他對球隊造成的傷害,從而阻止了他拿到LVP的獎盃。








第二名


騎士/湖人控衛以賽亞-托馬斯:場均出場26.9分鐘,效率值12.6

(2) PG Isaiah Thomas, CLE/LAL: 26.9 minutes per game, 12.6 PER






A year after contending for MVP, little Isaiah Thomas is making a hard charge for LVP honors.


Coming back from injury in Cleveland, he looked like a shell of himself. And the problem is: he didn"t know it. He continued to launch shots like nothing had changed, shooting just 36.1% from the field and 25.3% from three. He almost single handedly derailed the Cavs" chances of contending until the team cut bait entirely.


上賽季小托馬斯還是MVP爭奪者,而這賽季的他已經淪落到了跟其他球員激烈爭奪著LVP的榮譽的地步。


在騎士的時候,受傷歸來的小托馬斯狀態已大不如前,而問題就在於:他本人並不知道這一點。他還是像之前那樣投射,好像什麼都沒發生過一樣。投籃命中率僅為36.1%,三分命中率只有25.3%。他憑著自己的實力差點一手毀掉騎士爭冠的希望。直到騎士決定與他徹底告別,情況才得以好轉。




That efficiency has only slightly improved with the Lakers, "up" to 38.3% and 32.7% respectively. And being able to score efficiency is basically the only virtue Isaiah Thomas can bring you: his rebounding (2.1 per game) and defense will always drag you down. 


來到湖人,他的效率也才稍微好了一點點。投籃命中率和三分命中率分別「上升」到38.2%和32.7%。能夠高效得分本來算是小托馬斯唯一能帶給球隊的好處了,因為他的籃板能力(場均2.1個籃板)和防守必定總會拖球隊後腿的。



If he』s not shooting/scoring well, you have a major problem on your hands.


There are only two reasons that Thomas won"t win the LVP this year. Primarily, he hasn"t played enough, with 32 games all told. And to his credit, he still managed to get to the free throw line 4.1 times per game, hitting 89.3% of his attempts.


如果他不能夠高效得分,那你的球隊手上會有個大麻煩。托馬斯今年不能奪得LVP有以下兩個原因:首先,他上場的時間不夠多,只打了32場比賽。而且值得讚揚的是,他場均能夠造對手4.1次犯規,並且罰球命中率達到89.3%。





第一名,森林狼控衛賈馬爾-克勞福德:場均上場20.6分鐘,效率值13.6


(1) SG Jamal Crawford, Minnesota: 20.6 minutes per game, 13.6 PER




PER (not a good stat in general) doesn"t reflect Jamal Crawford"s struggles over the last few seasons. Always a score-first guard, the 37 year old has become more one-dimensional than ever in his advanced age. He"s a volume scorer (10.5 points in only 20.7 minutes) who doesn"t score efficiently, shooting 41.9% from the field and 33.5% from three. 

單從效率值看並不能體現克勞福德在過去幾個賽季里的掙扎表現(而且PER總體來說也不是個特別好的數據)。在這樣一個進步的(追求效率和全能的)年代,作為一個以得分為主的後衛,37歲的克勞福德的場上作用實在太單一了。他是一名得分效率偏下的靠量吃飯的得分手,20.7分鐘的出場時間內可以拿到10.5分,投籃命中率為41.9%,三分命中率為33.5%。




And that"s basically all he does. He totals 1.2 rebounds per game, and his defensive real +/- is an atrocious -5.58. Among 514 total qualifiers, that"s # 514. By far. The next worst is Troy Daniels at -4.47.


而且這也差不多是他在場上所做的一切了。他場均得到1.2個籃板,他的防守正負值為糟糕的-5.58。在總共514名候選人里,他的排名就是第514。倒數第二的是太陽的特洛伊-丹尼爾斯,防守正負值為-4.47。




Because Jamal Crawford"s been healthy all year and played 78 games, he"s managed to do more damage than his peers on this list. In fact, his total of 1613 minutes on the court almost matches the combined total of our runners-up MCW and Isaiah Thomas (835 and 862, respectively.)


因為克勞福德在這一年都處於健康狀態並打了78場比賽,他對球隊造成的傷害比這個名單上的其他同僚都要多。事實上,他的總共上場時間為1613分鐘,幾乎是我們的亞、季軍——邁卡威(上場835分鐘)和小托馬斯(上場862分鐘)上場時間的總和。




What further cements Jamal Crawford our "LVP" this season is that his poor play (combined with his extended playing time) may directly cause the Timberwolves to miss the playoffs. They"re fighting for their playoff lives right now mostly because Jimmy Butler got hurt, but partly because of Jamal Crawford as well. 


進一步鞏固了克勞福德在本賽季LVP榜單上位置的是他那糟糕的組織能力(結合他那過長的上場時間),這一點可能直接導致森林狼錯失季後賽席位。他們現在正在為自己的季後賽名額搶破頭,很大部分原因是吉米-巴特勒的受傷,但克勞福德也有部分責任。




In the offseason, the team reportedly had interest in C.J. Miles (a solid 3-and-D player who would have been a godsend for them) but settled for Crawford instead. Major downgrade. Tom Thibodeau also gave the veteran Crawford playing time at the expense of PG Tyus Jones, an effective backup who should be getting more shine. 


在休賽期時,有報道稱森林狼有意CJ-邁爾斯,一個有著牢靠3分和防守的球員,完美適配森林狼。但最終森林狼還是選擇了克勞福德,炮換鳥槍的典範。錫伯杜犧牲了本該得到更多表現機會的年輕替補控衛泰厄斯-瓊斯的上場時間,轉手分配給老將克勞福德。




Without Crawford on the roster, the Wolves may have won an additional game or two that may have made the difference in their year. This last week will determine whether or not Crawford is the fatal flaw that doomed them, but he"s done enough damage already to earn this trophy.


如果克勞福德不在輪換陣容中,森林狼也許能多贏個一兩場,而這一兩場可能會成為森林狼本賽季的決定因素。常規賽的最後一個星期將決定克勞福德到底是不是森林狼的致命毒瘤,但他目前對球隊的傷害已經足以讓他贏得這座獎盃。




So congrats (?) to Jamal Crawford, our 2017-18 LVP.


所以,恭喜你(喵喵喵喵?),賈馬爾-克勞福德,我們2017-18賽季的最沒價值球員。






[–]Thundertrapsfortroubadours[??] 640 指標 11小時前 


No love for Melo????


雷霆球員:什麼,我們甜瓜居然沒上榜???




[–]ZandrickEllison[S,??] 473 指標 11小時前 


Damn I didn』t even think about him on this level but maybe it』s time to start.


樓主:艹我都沒把他放到這個層次上來考慮,但或許也是時候了吧。




[–]WeRallGOATS 205 指標 10小時前 


I vertured over to BBall ref to scope his advanced stats, and they"re worse than I thought. The biggest decline is in ast %. He went from 15% plus in every season to 6.4%. He"s a black hole and with his shooting in such decline, that makes him a net negative on the floor and he has played a ton of minutes. He might actually be the real LVP.


我跳轉到BBall ref網站上看了一下他的高階數據,這些數據比我想像中的還要差。數據下滑得最厲害的是他的助攻率,從之前每個賽季的15%+到這個賽季的6.4%。他就是個防守黑洞,投射能力也大大下滑,使得他現在在場上就是個凈負值,而且他的上場時間還賊多。安東尼可能才是真正的最沒價值球員。




OKC upgraded with PG and Adams got better this year, but they got worse as a team because of Anthony.


由於交易來了喬治,加上亞當斯今年球技見漲,雷霆陣容確實升級了。但因為安東尼,他們整個球隊的表現其實變差了。




[–]Thundertrapsfortroubadours[??] 157 指標 10小時前 


Hah yeah. Pretty sure he』s like 0/400 on recent 3-pt attempts too (unofficial stat)


雷霆球迷:哈差不多。可以肯定他最近的三分出手大概是400投0中吧。(非官方數據)




[–]Thunderdrewskki1 106 指標 10小時前 


It certainly is. He"s nothing more than a 3 and d player now, except he can"t shoot or play defense. He has very very little value. His only value is that he can get a shot off. Not a good one, mind you, but we won"t get a shot clock violation


雷霆球迷:樓上沒毛病,絕對就是這樣的。他現在頂多就是個3D球員了,然而他既不會投籃也防不住別人。他現在可以說是毫無價值。唯一的價值就是他能出手投籃。請注意,這個出手肯定不是多麼好的機會,但我雷得益於他的強投能力,也不會24秒違例的。




[–]Thundertrapsfortroubadours[??] 61 指標 10小時前 


My thoughts exactly. His ceiling coming in was Olympic Melo. Instead OKC got..... this.


雷霆球迷:樓上說出了我的心聲。他剛來我雷的時候,大家覺得甜瓜的表現上限是奧運會版甜瓜,然而真正的表現卻是這……




[–]Warriorsgogorath 51 指標 8小時前* 


Olympic Melo was a meme, never a realistic possibility.


For one, it was fueled by a significantly closer 3 pt line. If anyone had bothered to check, the NBA"s line is still several feet further out.


勇士球迷:奧運會甜瓜就是一個梗,從來就沒有現實的可能性。


首先,他的爆炸得分是因為國際籃球場的三分線比NBA的近很多。如果在座各位去網上查一查,就會發現NBA的三分線是要比其他賽場遠了接近1米的。




For two, aside from about 1.5 games in the 2016 Olympics, he really wasn"t very good. It was just the one game. He was very good in 2012 ... but so were Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant and Luol Deng. It"s 2018.


This was a trainwreck anyone could see coming.


第二,除去安東尼2016年奧運會那1.5場比賽,他其實表現真不咋地。也就那一場表現好了而已。他在2012年的時候真的很強,但那個時候納什、科比和洛爾-鄧也很厲害啊。今年都2018了。


所以甜瓜現在打得這麼慘完全是可以預料到的。






[–]real-m-f-in-talk 286 指標 10小時前 


No JR Smith??????


28.3 minutes per game


8.3 pts per game


8.4 PER(at one point, JR"s PER was a negative number)


1.4 win share in 78 games (to put this number in prospective, Zizic his teammate has a 0.8 win share in 30 games, While playing 6-minutes per game on the season. )


居然沒有JR????


場均上場28.3分鐘


場均得分8.3分


效率值8.4(甚至有一段時間他的效率值為負)


在78場比賽里,他對比賽的勝利貢獻值為1.4。(為了給各位JR更直觀的感受,我們拿他的隊友日日奇作比較,日日奇在30場比賽里場均出場6分鐘,勝利貢獻值為0.8)




[–][TOR] Chris BoshPormanNowell 53 指標 9小時前 


WS/48 of 0.03 lmao


猛龍球迷:哈哈哈哈每48分鐘的WS是0.03。




[–]thunderloom 58 指標 10小時前 


He"s played much better of late.


最近他其實打得好很多了。




[–]ZandrickEllison[S,??] 72 指標 9小時前 


Yeah he was actually in my initial nomination post but he』s been improving.


樓主:是啊,他原本也在我初列候選名單上的,但他後來確實有進步。




[–]real-m-f-in-talk 63 指標 9小時前 


his improvement as of late brought his numbers UP to those trashy levels, hence why he should be the run away winner.




他後來是進步了,然而進步了也就只是把他的數據拉升到了這些個垃圾水準而已,這也是為什麼JR應該成為這一獎項的最大贏家,其他人根本跟他沒法比好吧。






[–][MIN] Tyus JonesBentumbo 2819 指標 11小時前 


Crawford is that guy you hate for 90% of the season but he randomly goes apeshit and hits game winners so you"re forced to temporarily forgive him


森林狼球迷:克勞福德就是那種在賽季90%的時間裡你都恨得咬牙切齒的球員,但他又不時地會在比賽中爆種然後投中制勝球,逼迫你不得不暫時原諒他。




[–]Timberwolvesnajib78 989 指標 9小時前 


He has won like 3 games for us and has indirectly lost way more


森林狼球迷:他為我狼贏了可能有3場比賽,然後間接地害我們輸了很多場球。




[–]TimberwolvesTdotGdot 138 指標 7小時前 


I don"t subscribe to the 90/10 rule for Crawford. It"s 100/0. I hate having him on my team, all the way around.


森林狼球迷:我不贊同樓上那個關於克勞福德90%+10%的言論,應該是100%。我極其不喜歡他在我狼隊內,徹徹底底的。




Honestly, his style is cool. He"s fun to watch in a pickup bball sort of way. But he is absolutely destructive if you ever want to play winning basketball. For some reason Thibs insists on playing him with the starters way too often, so instead of just Teague and Wiggins stealing shots from Towns, Crawford gets in on the action.


講真,他打球的方式很酷。如果是單挑的話他絕對極具觀賞性。但如果你想要贏球的話,他絕對是球隊毒瘤。不知道出於什麼原因,錫伯杜堅持頻繁地用克勞福德跟首發球員搭檔。這樣以來,除了蒂格和威金斯兩個搶出手的,克勞福德也第三者插足,一起欺負唐斯。




It"s one of the most head scratching signings I can imagine. Our team is literally full of high usage players. Why bring in another high usage, super low efficiency player that does nothing else but jack shots?


這是我最不理解的自由球員簽約之一。我狼現堆滿了占球權的球員。為什麼還要再引進一名占球權、效率奇低、只會浪投的球員呢?




Also: shoutout to Andrew Wiggins. Should probably also be honorable mention LVP. Think that just goes to show how good JB and Towns are.


PS,我支持安德魯-威金斯上榜。他應該也很有機會成為LVP榮譽獎得主的。我覺得他沒在名單上只是進一步證明了巴特勒和唐斯到底有多優秀。




[–][UTA] Greg Ostertagsoapy_goatherd 108 指標 10小時前 


He"s killed so many Jazz hopes over the years. Fortunately it seems he finally lost that magic after our first game this year




爵士球迷:這麼些年來克勞福德抹殺了多少爵士球迷的希望啊。幸運的是,在今年和我們的第一場比賽過後,他的魔法好像終於失效了。






[–][CLE] Mark Pricerellitsunjsjsjdjjsjs 1833 指標 12小時前* 


Tristan Thompson』s 0/0/0 the other night in 10 minutes sealed it for me. Not to mention he is making $16,400,000 this year and set to make $17.4 next year.


騎士球迷:有一場TT在10分鐘內拿了全鴨蛋的表現,讓我覺得他拿LVP稱號絕壁穩了。更別提他那今年1640萬美元,明年1740萬美元的大肥約了。




[–]ZandrickEllison[S,??] 728 指標 12小時前 


I think Tristan and LeBron had a meeting with Rich Paul to game plan: LeBron, you make a late push for MVP. Tristan, late push for LVP.


樓主:我覺得TT和勒布朗肯定是和他們的經紀人里奇-保羅開會討論過:勒布朗,你在賽季後期衝擊下MVP。TT,你就努力衝擊LVP吧。




[–]NBAmikesituation45 329 指標 10小時前 


"Tristan, they don"t think I"m MVP so I need you to play horribly to make me look better next to you"


"You got it boss"


詹姆斯:「特里斯坦,他們覺得我無法成為MVP,所以我現在需要你打得爛一點,這樣的話我在你旁邊就顯得更厲害了。」


TT:「沒問題老大,您瞧好了吧。」




[–]Hawks Tankwagonterafunker 172 指標 9小時前 


"Way ahead of you, boss!"


TT:「老大我早就先你一步想到這招啦!」




[–]Rocketsjsting 53 指標 10小時前 


If it wasn"t for lebron, what kind of deal does TT get instead of the $80M?


如果不是因為詹姆斯,TT這8000萬的合同到底會縮水多少呢?




[–][CLE] Mark Pricerellitsunjsjsjdjjsjs 78 指標 10小時前 


$8-10M a year with incentives IMO. Possibly higher since he was coming off a hot year. I still don』t think teams would have paid anywhere near $80mil though.


騎士球迷:我覺得應該是800到1000萬年薪再加激勵條款。可能還要再高一點,畢竟他上一年確實狀態火熱。但我依然認為當時的各個球隊不會給他開出任何接近8000萬的合同。




[–]NBAAbraves119 39 指標 9小時前 


Should probably be making about 3m/yr....but hey, at least the Cavs aren"t paying Joakim Noah 17.7m this year lol.


大概300萬年薪左右吧。但你回頭想想,至少騎士今年不用給諾阿1770萬美元啊,哈哈哈。




[–][CLE] Mark Pricerellitsunjsjsjdjjsjs 82 指標 9小時前 


OKC got us all beat for shittiest with Melo at near $27,000,000


騎士球迷:論爛合同,咱都輸給雷霆了。畢竟他們給了安東尼接近2700萬美元。




[–]Cavalierswiifan55 50 指標 8小時前 


Lebron didn"t get TT his deal. That"s just a fallacy floated around here for some reason. TT was coming off his best year in the NBA, was young and seemed motivated to keep improving, and most importantly there was zero way for the Cavs to replace him because we were so far over the cap. The Cavs had no choice but to pay TT big money. And when you look at some of the other ridiculous deals that went out that year, it was pretty much in line with it.


騎士球迷:詹姆斯並沒有幫TT拿到這個合同。這就是個謬論,不知道為什麼一直在話題區陰魂不散。那年TT打出了職業生涯最高水平,很年輕,看起來幹勁十足,有意不斷提升自己水平。最重要的是,當時騎士根本沒有辦法找到替代他的人,因為我騎已經遠超工資帽了。騎士沒有辦法,只能給TT一個大肥約。而且當你回頭看看那一年聯盟里其他荒謬的交易,你會發現這個合同其實也很符合當時的主流。




So Lebron didn"t get TT his deal; the overall circumstances that the Cavs were in at the time got TT his deal.


所以詹姆斯並沒有幫TT爭取到這個合同,是當時騎士所處的情境讓TT拿到了這個合同。






[–]Celticstobinsl 168 指標 12小時前 


purely based on the eye test and relative to their contract it has to be tristan thompson. that guy is useless.


凱爾特人球迷:單純從印象流和合同角度出發,那必須是特里斯坦-湯普森,這貨現在一點作用都沒有。




[–]mechooseausernameno 837 指標 11小時前 


MCW getting robbed here. Much like Embiid for ROTY last year, I think MCW played enough to showcase how terrible at basketball he really is. It』s a tough race though, someone had to lose(win?). TT was my first thought when I saw the title of the post. I didn』t realise how bad Crawford had been.


邁卡威的不服啊!很像去年恩比德與最佳新秀失之交臂。我覺得邁卡威的上場時間已經足夠表現出他到底有多爛了。不過這個獎項競爭還真的蠻激烈的,總有人得贏(或者說輸?)嘛。看到這帖子標題時我就想到了TT,我當時都不知道原來克勞福德表現這麼糟糕。




[–]TimberwolvesBeamsFuelJetSteel 165 指標 9小時前 


It is a really bad scenario. You would hope Crawford would just come in and just give a chucking option for the 2nd team. Play him like 9 minutes a game, if it is a hot day let him keep going.


森林狼球迷:真的就是車禍現場。大家原本的期望就是克勞福德當個第二梯隊的浪投手。每場比賽大概讓他上場個9分鐘的樣子,如果他那天手感火熱再讓他接著打。




But Thibs gunna Thibs, and with Butler getting hurt it feels like Crawford is playing like 30 minutes a game. (Crawford still played 27 last night with Butler back)


但錫伯杜還是錫伯杜,最近巴特勒因傷缺陣,我感覺克勞福德每場上場時間可能有30分鐘。(昨晚的比賽巴特勒回歸了,但克勞福德依然得到27分鐘的上場時間)






[–]CelticsZeusforPres 330 指標 10小時前 


I was under the impression Jaw Crowder has been solid for Utah?


凱爾特人球迷:傑-克勞德在爵士打得不是挺好的嗎?




[–]JazzSenHeffy 178 指標 9小時前 


He"s something like +350 for the Jazz on the year after being -350 for the Cavs.


爵士球迷:他在爵士的總正負值可能有350+,在騎士的時候是-350差不多。




[–][UTA] Joe Ingleskoolaidman1030 199 指標 10小時前 


He has been, not amazing shooting or anything but great defense and tons of help stats I don"t think he took the Utah time in account and just remembers his bad play in Cleveland


爵士球迷:來到爵士,克勞德可能並沒有很出色的投籃或者其他得分,但他的防守做得很棒並且在幫助隊友的數據上很搶眼。我認為樓主可能沒把克勞德在爵士期間的數據算了進去,只記得他在騎士時的糟糕表現了。




[–][BOS] Gordon HaywardSheebzus 60 指標 9小時前 


Yeah, even if his percentages aren』t really better, I feel like he』s a much better cog for Utah』s system, because he understands ball movement well.


凱爾特人球迷:是的,儘管他的命中率並沒有提高,但我覺得他在爵士體系里是一個更好的齒輪球員,因為他能夠很好地理解球的轉移。




[–][MIA] Dion Waiterspatsfan5101 111 指標 11小時前 


Bit harsh on Dion considering that he was trying to play through a hurt ankle and the pain finally forced him into surgery


熱火球迷:考慮到迪昂一直頂著受傷的腳踝在打球,而且最終也是因為疼痛難忍才不得已手術的,我覺得樓主對他有點太嚴苛了。




[–]76ersjodatoufin 126 指標 12小時前 


I"d go with Jerryd Bayless or Jahlil Okafor


76人球迷:我會選擇傑里-貝勒斯或者賈利爾-奧卡福。




[–]Wizardscshaxercs 120 指標 11小時前 


For some reason I thought Bayless was roughly Jason Terry"s age. I looked him up at Google, and found out he"s not even 30 yet... So mind blown.


奇才球迷:不知道為什麼,我總覺得貝勒斯和傑森-特里差不多大。我谷歌了一下他,然後發現他甚至都還不到30歲。三觀盡毀啊。




[–][POR] Damian Lillardsomethingnotyettaken 169 指標 10小時前 


Turner does not belong on this list. He"s been a solid player for the 3rd seed in the Western Conference. The only place he is a liability is at the 3 pt line, which you already highlight as being one of his worst qualities, even though he"s shooting 33%.


開拓者球迷:特納不應該在這份名單上的。在西部第3號種子球隊里,他一直表現穩定。他技能包里唯一呈負值的就是他的三分球,而這一點你也在主樓里作為最差特點強調過了,但他的三分命中率其實也有33%。




ET is an on-call shot creator with a great back to the basket game, and an important role player on one of the best teams in the league this season.


特納是一名隨時待命的能創造出手的球員,能背打,籃板球能力也很強,他是這個賽季里最出色球隊之一里的一名重要角色球員。





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