米切爾身穿印有「新秀」定義的衣服，美國球迷：他證明了西蒙斯是新秀
多諾萬-米切爾引用了韋氏詞典回應本-西蒙斯。
米切爾的衣服上印著對「新秀」二字的定義：為職業體育球隊打第一個賽季的運動員。
[–][PHI] Joel EmbiidKidDelicious14 1490 指標 1小時前
Holy crap, the Dictionary.com Twitter account just clapped back at Mitchell.
76人球迷：我擦嘞，Dictionary.com的官方推特剛剛回應了米切爾！
圖中文字：如果接下來你們二位需要「打」這個詞的定義的話，請告訴我們哦，@ BenSimmons25和@spidadmitchell。#年度最佳新秀
[–]jojohokage 353 指標 1小時前
dictionary.com trusts the process
Dictionary.com官方也相信過程。
[–]TimberwolvesAtiumDependent 107 指標 1小時前
Goddamn. He should know now considering he played himself.
哎呀我去。米切爾現在應該知道「打」是啥意思了吧，畢竟他把自己臉給打腫了。
[–][MIN] Kevin Garnettdjpeekz 307 指標 2小時前
Simmons" first game was this season
西蒙斯的職業生涯首秀是在本賽季啊。
[–][GSW] Stephen Currydunedog223 107 指標 2小時前
So techincally Donovan he is a rookie.
所以嚴格意義上來說呢，米切爾，西蒙斯他真的是個新秀呀。
[–][BOS] Kyrie IrvingKyrieWillRapeYou 170 指標 2小時前
But Simmons first season was last season. He got the training from NBA teams. He practiced against NBA players. He got paid like an NBA player. He was an NBA player last season.
但是西蒙斯的首個賽季是上賽季啊。他跟隨著NBA球隊進行了一年訓練。他也在練習中對抗過NBA球員。他就像個NBA球員一樣領著薪水。上個賽季的西蒙斯就已經是個NBA球員了。
[–]NBAbayesian_acolyte 110 指標 1小時前
Mitchell"s own shirt says "playing his or her first season as a member of a professional sports team". He was on this 76ers last season but he is "playing his first season as a member" of the 76ers this season.
米切爾自己的衣服上寫著「作為一名運動員，他/她為一支職業體育球隊征戰第一個賽季」。西蒙斯去年就在76人隊里了，但是直到本賽季他才「為一支職業體育球隊征戰第一個賽季」呀。
[–]SpursApex--Redditer 782 指標 2小時前
So he proved Ben right ...
所以，米切爾證明了西蒙斯是個新秀……
[–]InfnteNothng 121 指標 2小時前
I"m confused. Is he backing up Ben from all the criticism saying he"s not a real rookie. As in he sees that criticism isn"t fair hence the hoodie?
我有點兒懵。在西蒙斯承受著各種「他不是個真正的新秀」的批評時，米切爾這是站出來為他發聲嗎？米切爾是覺得這樣的批評對西蒙斯來說很不公平，所以才穿上這件帽衫的嗎？
[–]Basicks1 397 指標 2小時前
Doesnt that make it sound like he thinks Ben Simmons is better but doesn"t qualified as a rookie
我更覺得是這種情況，米切爾認為本-西蒙斯更強，但是他並不符合作為一名新秀的標準。
[–][UTA] Donovan MitchellThe_Donovan 55 指標 2小時前
No this means he"s labelling himself as a rookie and Ben said the other day that no other rookies had caught his eye, Don didn"t respond to the "ROTY 100%" thing he responded to ben"s other comment.
爵士球迷：不是的，這意味著米切爾認為他自己才是正兒八經的新秀。西蒙斯前幾天說過沒有其他新秀吸引了他的注意，米切爾回應的是這個，而不是西蒙斯「100%贏下年度最佳新秀」這個話題。
[–]LakersLaVarZoNoBall 218 指標 2小時前
If anything this reinforces the notion that Simmons should be considered a rookie
如果說有什麼作用的話，米切爾這件帽衫更加印證了西蒙斯應該被當做新秀這一觀點。
[–]76ersslipperysnail 5307 指標 2小時前
Holy shit is this real
76人球迷：卧槽，這圖是真的？？
[–][GSW] Stephen Curryec20 294 指標 2小時前
that was pretty good. It"s going to take social media mvp Joel Embiid to even have a chance at a good comeback.
米切爾這波還是相當不錯的。想要有力的回擊，不得不請社交媒體MVP恩比德出馬了。而且就算恩比德也只是有機會完成反殺而已啊！
[–]RaptorsiBlackula 2578 指標 2小時前
This is petty in the best way possible.
米切爾的這個斤斤計較還真是恰到好處啊。
[–]Lakerstoomuchtestosterone9 703 指標 2小時前
It"s great, but I gotta be honest I was hoping for this on a shirt.
這件帽衫很漂亮，但是說實話我真的很希望這張圖片能印到T恤上。
[–]76ersthehoods 1657 指標 2小時前
Lmao I love Mitchell
76人球迷：啊哈哈哈哈哈哈嗝，我愛米切爾！
[–]Jazzjar_jar_blink 789 指標 2小時前
I love Simmons. I don"t get why we all have to be so serious. This can be fun.
爵士球迷：我也愛西蒙斯啊！不是很明白為啥我們對於最佳新秀這件事情爭論的如此嚴肅認真。這應該是很有趣的！
[–]76ersTO_show81 711 指標 2小時前
It is fun. FUCK YOU
76人球迷：是很有趣的啊！敲里嗎！TX。
[–][PHI] Joel Embiideddiemadrid 212 指標 2小時前
If Ben did this tho there』d be so much fucking hate in this thread lol hoodie is fire tho
76人球迷：如果西蒙斯身穿著「新秀」定義的衣服的話，估計這帖子里就全是黑子噴西蒙斯了吧。不過這帽衫的確很贊誒。
[–]Jazzhagridandbuckbeak 189 指標 2小時前
Donovan is definitely more liked id say, 『tis the way of life I guess
爵士球迷：要我說的話，米切爾應該是更討人喜歡吧，這就是生活啊，你有啥辦法。
[–]Di1l 795 指標 2小時前
Wish I didn』t have to wait till the finals to see them play against each other in a series
希望我不會一直等到總決賽才能看到他倆面對面的打一輪系列賽。
[–]76ersInternetTalentScout 242 指標 2小時前
Had a two game series during the season...76ers up 2-0.
76人球迷：這個賽季他倆交手過兩次……76人2-0橫掃了爵士。
[–][OKC] Andre Robersonthrow3away3791 1719 指標 2小時前
I fucking love this guy.
我真是特么的愛死這個傢伙了！
[–][GSW] Stephen Currydunedog223 901 指標 2小時前
This whole race has been so entertaining, both are special players.
這次的最佳新秀爭奪可真是一出好戲啊，他們倆都是非常特別的球員。
[–]Warriorsxtaro 2796 指標 2小時前
The fuck do you mean, why does them being black make them entertaining?
你特么什麼意思，黑人就是給你演戲供你取樂的嗎？！TX。
Richard Jefferson claims Ben Simmons is not a 「true rookie」 and explains why Donovan Mitchell is his choice for Rookie of the Year
理查德-傑弗森表示本-西蒙斯不是一名「真正的新秀」，然後他解釋了為何他會選擇多諾萬-米切爾作為年度最佳新秀。
「這不是本-西蒙斯的錯，但多諾萬-米切爾才是一名真正的新秀，他沒有用一整年的時間來訓練備戰對抗NBA級別的球員，他沒有機會坐在板凳席上，觀看比賽錄像。」「多諾萬身邊最好的進攻型球員是魯迪-戈貝爾（劇透警告：年度最佳防守球員）和里基-盧比奧，沒有不尊重的意思，但已經不用多說了。本的身邊有一群野獸，一幫在進攻端已經證明過自己的隊友，他完成了很傑出的組織進攻重任。」「在球隊十連勝期間，多諾萬場均得分20+領銜全隊。如果你沒有做到過，你永遠不知道這對以一名真正的新秀來說有多麼艱難。本是一名未來名人堂成員，兩人非常接近，但最好和最令人驚訝的新秀是多諾萬-米切爾，只有像基德和希爾那樣共享最佳新秀才能讓我讓步。」
[–][UTA] Dante Exumkkezz 2257 指標 20小時前
Oh hell nah i ain』t gonna let him disrespect joe ingles like that
爵士球迷；去特么的吧，我才不會讓他像這樣不尊重喬-英格爾斯！
[–]Trail Blazersgoodname_ 545 指標 20小時前
Dunno why he left out Joe Ingles
dude is lights out this season, he"s so under the radar for a guy shooting fucking .441 from the 3 at 5.8 attempts per game
不知道為啥傑弗森忽略了喬-英格爾斯。
這老哥本賽季發揮簡直亮眼的不行，場均出手5.8次三分投出44.1%的命中率，然而他卻總是遭到無視。
[–]LakersDirtyChito 282 指標 19小時前
I think there is disrespect. Rubio is having a fantastic year all around. And those proven offensive players in Philli (minus Reddick) won 28 games last year.
If you gave it to Blake, you gotta give it to Simmons.
我覺得的確是對爵士其他球員不太尊重。盧比奧這賽季也是打出了非常棒的全能表現。而費城的那些「在進攻端已經證明過自己」的球員（除去雷迪克）上賽季一共才贏了28場比賽。
如果你之前把最佳新秀的獎項頒給布雷克-格里芬的話，那你也得把這個獎頒給西蒙斯。
[–]TimberwolvesOnePieceAce 1778 指標 20小時前
Fuck this race just give the award to Lonzo so we can get maximum salt from /r/nba
我真是受夠了關於最佳新秀的爭論了…還不如把獎頒給球哥，這樣我們整個Reddit論壇就可以一起開噴了！
[–]76ersjuggerspammer 183 指標 20小時前
fuck the race both dudes are great players
76人球迷：去特么的最佳新秀之爭！這兩個小夥子都是很棒的球員啊！
[–]76ersHypertension123456 65 指標 15小時前
The best way to settle this would be in the playoffs, like Jordan vs Malone.
76人球迷：決出最佳新秀的最佳辦法就是讓他們經歷季後賽的檢驗吧，就像當年喬丹和馬龍那樣！
[–][BOS] Paul Piercecberman12 765 指標 20小時前
While I agree, you can』t change the criteria for an award mid season. This change would have to happen in the off season to be valid
雖然我同意這個辦法，但是你不能在賽季進行到一半然後更改獎項的評選標準呀。如果在休賽期改一下的話還是非常可行的。
[–]JazzIcebergFishing 685 指標 20小時前
Honestly think that if Ben Simmons wasn』t this good people wouldn』t discount him as a rookie.
爵士球迷：說實話我覺得如果西蒙斯不是這麼出色的話，大家也就不會對他「新秀身份」找茬了。
[–]Mavericks Tankwagonmgmfa 127 指標 12小時前
Blake Griffin was literally an all-star his "rookie" year - somehow better than Simmons was this year. He was also unanimous RoY, so everyone thought of him as a rookie. It"s not like he didn"t have competition either - John Wall and Boogie Cousins were #2 and 3 in voting.
布雷克-格里芬在他的「新秀」賽季基本上就是個全明星級別的球員了——不查不知道一查嚇一跳，他竟然比這賽季的西蒙斯還牛。而且在當年的最佳新秀票選中，格里芬全票獲勝，所以這證明當時的投票者都覺得他是新秀沒毛病。他當時也並非沒有遇到挑戰——約翰-沃爾和考辛斯當時排在最佳新秀票選的第二和第三。
[–][GSW] Jason RichardsonDanerysFlacco 50 指標 16小時前
I』ve always thought it』s weird that second year players could win even if injured the first year
我一直覺得那些二年級球員在第一年受傷之後贏得最佳新秀這種事聽起來怪怪的。
[–]Timberwolveskwilly15bb 147 指標 16小時前
Until you play your first NBA game it"s not your first year. Keep in mind pro guys from overseas that are like 25 could come over and it"d be their rookie year their first year of the NBA.
直到你打了在NBA的第一場比賽之前，那些都不算是你的職業生涯第一年。請記住這一點，那些來自海外的職業球員登陸NBA的時候都可能25歲了，但是直到他們來的第一年才是他們的新秀賽季。
[–]Kings TankwagonStarWarsMonopoly 129 指標 20小時前
It is a little weird that its becoming a trend to have rookies with questionable injury timetables sit out a whole season. I understand why it is necessary though.
Simmons deserves to contend for the award, im just saying that this is a new thing in the league and it might become the rule and not the exception.
這有些奇怪，但是有傷病隱患復出時間待定的新秀們缺席整個賽季看起來已經成為了一種趨勢。但是現在我理解為什麼這是很必要的了。
西蒙斯配得上去競爭最佳新秀獎項，我只是覺得這可能是聯盟里的新鮮事，以後可能會對此樹立相對的規則，而不是把這種情況當做特例。
[–][BOS] Rajon Rondopierce_brady_ortiz 1060 指標 20小時前
I"m more surprised he"s already calling Simmons a future HOF player
讓我更加感到吃驚的是，傑弗森已經稱西蒙斯為未來的名人堂級別球員了。
[–][BOS] Guerschon YabuseleJimboujee 633 指標 19小時前
I mean how many 6"10 point guard we really see in the league
但是兄弟，你看看我們聯盟里現在有幾個兩米零八身高的控球後衛啊！
[–]WakandaFist 438 指標 19小時前
True but the OP has a point, no matter how good a first season u have, it"s pretty premature to say a player will be in the HOF that quick. Injuries could get in the way or u never know, they could just fall off..
Remember Tyreke Evans? Brandon Roy? Rose?
的確是沒幾個高大控衛，但是我覺得上一個樓主還是有他的道理的。不管你的第一個賽季有多麼的出彩，如此武斷的認為你將會入選名人堂還是為時尚早。傷病可能會侵襲球員，沒有人會說得准這種事情，球員們可能再也無法重現昨日巔峰…
還記得泰瑞克-埃文斯嗎？布蘭登-羅伊？德里克-羅斯？
[–]RaptorsJevvyMedia 181 指標 13小時前
When you project players, you usually do not project injuries. So yeah, you can call him a future HOFer.
當你預測一個球員的未來時，你通常不會把傷病因素考慮在內。所以說，沒錯，你可以稱西蒙斯為未來的名人堂成員。
[–]MavericksCyronix- 198 指標 20小時前
People dont bitch this much about the MLB』s even more asinine Rookie requirements. Its just that this happened to be a good ROTY race and people are suddenly perturbed about a rule that has been in place forever, albeit a flawed one. There wasnt this much debate or controversy about Blake Griffin』s rookie campaign.
在美國職棒聯盟里有著更加愚蠢的對於新秀的定義，然而我也沒見人們討論啊。只是今年恰巧最佳新秀之爭很精彩，所以大家都就開始四處找茬，質疑一項存在已久的規則，儘管它確實有點問題。當年在布雷克-格里芬贏得年度最佳新秀的時候都沒有像今年這麼多的討論和撕逼呢。
[–]BucksRelevantFigure 197 指標 20小時前
There was a lot of debate around Blake"s rookie campaign. I remember a lot of older players (TNT crew for instance) who said that he shouldn"t win ROY. We just didn"t have Reddit or NBA twitter for it to blow up like this has.
當時還是有很多對於格里芬獲得最佳新秀的討論的。我記得很多老球員（比如TNT天團）說過格里芬不應該贏下年度最佳新秀。不過我們當時沒有Reddit或者NBA推特等社交媒體像今年這樣炒作一番。
[–]HeatMelGibsonDerp 632 指標 18小時前
Simmons can"t be an All Star because he"s a rookie but can"t win Rookie of the Year because he"s not a TRUE rookie.
Ok.
Simmons is Rookie of the Year and was snubbed of an All Star Selection. Fuck all yall.
西蒙斯不能成為一名全明星，因為他還是個新秀；但是西蒙斯不能贏得年度最佳新秀，因為他不是一個「真正」的新秀。
好的吧。
西蒙斯就是年度最佳新秀，而且在全明星票選的時候遭到了冷落。黑子們，敲里們嗎！
[–][SAC] Vlade DivacShit_Fuck_Man 15 指標 11小時前
Precedent"s been set, RotY includes sophomores with a year missing. Normally I"d say it wouldn"t matter, but RotY has contract and money implications. If it needs to be changed, change it at the beginning of the year so it doesn"t look like you"re targeting a player.
根據之前的情況來看，年度最佳新秀的確包括了因傷缺席第一個賽季的二年級球員。普通情況下，我會覺得這無所謂，但是年度最佳新秀獎項對球員合同和獎金有影響。如果這個規則需要改變的話，那就在賽季開始之初修改吧，這樣不會讓人感覺你是在針對某一個球員而修改規則。
Draymond Green Picks Donovan Mitchell For Rookie of the Year
德雷蒙德-格林選擇多諾萬-米切爾為年度最佳新秀。
「你無法對他們哪個挑錯，無論是多諾萬還是本，他們都打出了一個非常出彩的賽季。
「在我看來，我會選擇多諾萬，原因很簡單，他是一名真正的新秀。
「本的話，我認為通過NBA體系的訓練、像職業球員一樣飲食、像職業球員一樣觀看錄像，這些都會造成影響。
「我沒有任何貶低本所取得的成就的意思，因為他打出了一個非常出色的賽季，我認為在未來數年，他將會成為聯盟的臉面之一。
「但在我看來，多諾萬所做到的事情，大學出來後直接就可以做到那些事情，我很讚許他。」
[–]Kelcespeech 285 指標 6小時前
He also said jaylen brown should have been an all star...next !
格林還說過杰倫-布朗應該入選全明星陣容…過！
[–]Lakersdantehuncho 80 指標 6小時前
I thought about that when he first said it and he probably said it because he values defense lol
當時他剛說的時候我琢磨了一下，格林可能是更看重防守所以才這樣說的吧哈哈哈哈。
[–]Celticsscarecrowbar 110 指標 6小時前
Look, let"s say Ben Simmons was drafted in the 2015-2016 season and missed it then had this exact season in 2016-2017. Are people really going to be up in arms to give the award to Malcolm Brogdon over Simmons? No, we"re just lucky enough to have two outstanding players who deserve the award this season.
聽好，讓我們假設本-西蒙斯是在2015-2016賽季被選中的，在錯過了那個賽季之後他征戰了2016-2017賽季。如果我們把最佳新秀獎項頒給西蒙斯而不是馬爾科姆-布羅格登的話，人們會竭力反對嗎？答案是否定的。我們只是過於幸運，能在這個賽季里擁有兩名配得上最佳新秀獎項的優秀球員。
IMO Simmons should be eligible, but in the voters" opinion he should lose a few points for all the advantages he"s had over Mitchell. Whether or not that"s enough points to give it to Mitchell over Simmons is for them to decide. For most of them it doesn"t appear to be so.
在我看來，西蒙斯應該有資格參選，但是按照投票者的想法，西蒙斯會因為比米切爾佔有更多優勢而丟掉一些分數。至於這些分數能否讓米切爾勝出就不得而知了，全靠投票者們的選擇。但是絕大多數投票者們看起來並沒有因此偏袒米切爾。
[–]76ersGrownManMove 84 指標 6小時前
As a 76ers fan - I agree that Simmons got some advantage for sitting out (film, training, etc.). The being said, Ben is considered a rookie by the NBA. Which makes him eligible for the award. The NBA should change the rule that once you leave college your considered a rookie. Until then it"s the BEST Rookie which is easily Simmons. I don"t think there"s a debate.
76人球迷：作為一名76人球迷，我的確同意西蒙斯因缺席首個賽季佔了一些優勢（觀看比賽錄像，訓練等等）。儘管如此，西蒙斯還是被NBA當做一名新秀，這也讓他有資格參選年度最佳新秀獎項。NBA應該把規則修改為「一旦你離開大學，你就是一名新秀了」。到目前為止，最佳新秀顯而易見是西蒙斯，我不覺得這有什麼值得討論的。
[–]Knicks_stateofmind 715 指標 6小時前
I don』t think a lot of players are fans of Ben being considered a rookie
我不認為很多球員會認同「西蒙斯是個新秀」這一觀點。
[–]CelticsCarmeloCurryTowns 121 指標 6小時前
The writers and voters can rationalize it with the analytics and stats, but players always go with their gut. That"s why player voting was always a lot different than what we as fans of the game think.
體育作家和投票者大可以通過分析和數據來自圓其說，但是球員們永遠是跟著感覺走的。這也就是為啥球員投票的結果總是和我們球迷的想法大相徑庭。
[–]thou_shalt_wander 82 指標 2小時前
Or they know first-hand the impact of being in an NBA environment for a yesr
又或者是，NBA球員都是過來人，很清楚（西蒙斯）在NBA環境下已經歷練過一年的影響。
[–][POR] Damian LillardFamilyguy35 274 指標 6小時前
I think Simmons comments are not liked by players. A brash and confident rookie is not liked maybe?
我覺得西蒙斯的那些話可能讓很多球員聽了不太舒服？一個傲慢自信的新秀可能在圈子裡不是很受歡迎？
[–][LAL] Lonzo BallSatisfactoryRanching 166 指標 5小時前*
I think they"re not liked by players because people in NBA generally look after each other.
How many times do you hear a star or superstar get asked about a rookie and do nothing but praise them?
我認為這番言論不會被其他球員所喜歡，因為在NBA的圈子裡人們往往都是互相照顧著彼此。
當一個球星或者超級球星在被問到關於另一個新秀的問題時，他們有幾次不是稱讚那些新秀的？
Every one in the NBA is confident, but that"s different from looking down at the floor and chuckling when a player is brought up indirectly in comparison to you (especially when that player gave you his props) and then following that up with saying no rookie has caught his attention.
That just comes off as insecure and arrogant to some people.
每個人在NBA都是自信的，但是這種自信可不是在和另一位球員做間接對比時低頭看著地板，輕聲地笑（特別是當那個球員給予了你稱讚）然後回答道沒有哪個新秀引起了他的注意。
這在一些人看來是缺乏安全感和傲慢的表現。
[–]Cavalierswhy_you_salty_though 98 指標 4小時前
It"s true. Search up Cavs teammates on LeBron as he was coming into the league. People saying he is overrated and will be a bust
騎士球迷：的確是這樣。搜一下騎士隊隊員在勒布朗進入聯盟時的評論吧。人們還說勒布朗被高估了，將來會成為一個水貨。
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