斯托克頓年近40還能全勤首發82場，美網友：淡定點，常規操作

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John Stockton started all 82 games of the NBA season when he was 37 years old. He also did it when he was 38 years old. And 39 years old. And 40.

約翰-斯托克頓在37歲時作為首發完成八十二場全勤。不僅如此，斯托克頓在38歲，39歲，40歲時也達成了此成就。

The record is 40 years old held by John Stockton.

Three players have played in 82 games of a season at the age of 38+: John Stockton (38,39,40), Johnny Green (38) and Michael Jordan (39)

Only John Stockton started all 82, however.

The oldest non-John Stockton player to play and start all 82 games in a season is Cliff Robinson who did it at the age of 37.

（82場首發出戰年齡最老的）紀錄是由40歲的約翰-斯托克頓所擁有。

只有3名球員在38歲以上的年齡全勤出戰了82場比賽：約翰-斯托克頓（38歲、39歲、40歲），約翰尼-格林（39歲）和邁克爾-喬丹（39歲）。

但其中只有約翰-斯托克頓首發了全部82場。

最老的除斯托克頓以外全勤首發82場的球員是克利福德-羅賓遜，他在37歲達成此成就。

[–]KalEl1232 1014 指標 1 天前

In fact, he did it 16 out of his 19 seasons.

淡定淡定常規操作，斯托克頓在生涯19個賽季中有16次達成此成就。

[–]3Mixer3 306 指標 1 天前

And didn"t miss a gm in the shortened lock out season too

而且在停擺縮水賽季也沒有缺席過一場比賽。

[–]KalEl1232 357 指標 1 天前

And never missed the playoffs in his entire 19 year career.

而且19年生涯都沒有缺席過一次季後賽。

[–][UTA] John StocktonThehealeroftri 672 指標 1 天前

And, most relieving to 90s Jazz fans, did not sexually assault a 13 year old.

爵士球迷：而且而且，最讓90年代爵士球迷安心的是：斯托克頓沒有讓13歲的少女意外懷孕。

[譯註1]

[譯註1]：卡爾-馬龍曾與13歲的少女發生關係並致使其懷孕。

[–]Jazzyeshua1986 332 指標 1 天前

John Stockton, GOAT at not fucking kids

爵士球迷：約翰-斯托克頓，不性侵少女的我爵史上最佳球員。

[–]SpursMeC0195 52 指標 23小時前

That"s... kind of a low bar. At least I have something in common with a superstar.

馬刺球迷：嘖嘖嘖，你這個標準設得有點低了啊。不過最起碼我和超巨有一個共同點了。

[–]Jazzyeshua1986 75 指標 23小時前

We all are GOAT on this day.

爵士球迷：今日，我們都是史上最佳。

[–]3Mixer3 184 指標 1 天前

Apparently he got a few assists and steals during that time too

斯托克頓在這期間還做了些微小的貢獻，完成了一點助攻，刷了些搶斷。

[–][UTA] John StocktonThehealeroftri 107 指標 1 天前

Fun Fact: John and David Stockton hold the NBA record for most combined son/father assists and steals totals.

爵士球迷：有趣的冷知識：約翰-斯托克頓和大衛-斯托克頓在NBA「父子」搶斷和助攻總排行榜上排第一哦。

[–]RaptorsBowieScorvat 221 指標 1 天前

Malone and Stockton had crazy longevity and durability

猛龍球迷：馬龍和斯托克頓的職業生涯真是又長又耐操啊。

[–]Trail BlazersnotDAME[S] 95 指標 1 天前*

malone played and started in 81 games in 2003 at the age of 39 on 36.2 mpg per game holy shit that"s crazy. (for reference, stockton played average of 29.5 mpg from ages 37-40)

made me curious to check something else..

開拓者球迷：馬龍在39歲時的2003賽季首發打了81場比賽，場均上場時間36.2分鐘，我勒個去還是地球人么。（作為比較，斯托克頓從37到40歲場均上場時間為29.5分鐘）

因此我好奇還有沒有這種非人類的球員，我特地去查了一下：

年齡*	名字	分鐘*	場次
36	威爾特-張伯倫	3542	82
35	威爾特-張伯倫	3469	82
35	雷吉-米勒	3181	81
35	安東尼-梅森	3143	82
38	卡爾-馬龍	3040	80
36	埃爾文-海耶斯	3032	82
39	邁克爾-喬丹	3031	82

*age 35+ and 3000+ minutes to qualify

*年齡35歲以上且單賽季總上場時間超過3000分鐘。

[–]JazzRobertLobLaw2 74 指標 1 天前

Malone also averaged 20 points, 8 rebounds, and 5 assists that season. 39 year old Malone would be a top 10 power forward in today"s league.

爵士球迷：而且馬龍在39歲的那個賽季場均20分、8個籃板和5個助攻。39歲的馬龍放到今天聯盟里絕對是排前十的大前鋒。

[–]DeathRogen 29 指標 23 小時前

Damn, the Jazz made 20 straight play off appearances, 5 going to the conf finals and two to the finals.

Malone and Stockton really deserved to win one... just not over my Bulls.

公牛球迷：我去，爵士連續20個賽季進入到季後賽，5次分區決賽，2次總決賽。

馬龍和斯托克頓真的應該贏得一次總冠軍的……只是不能贏過我的公牛而已。

[–]Bulls Tankwagonshiteymate 16 指標 23小時前

Well Stockton deserved to win one...Malone not so much

公牛球迷：其實吧，斯托克頓還是配得上一次總冠軍榮譽的……馬龍，額，就算了吧。

[–]fingerblaster69 18 指標 18小時前

That』s bullshit. Malone was an incredible player and talent. Yeah, he was a piece of shit off the court, but A LOT of other HOF players were too. I』m not justifying his despicable actions, but he』s not alone amongst NBA greats. He』s just the one that can』t be mentioned without this coming up every god damned time.

扯淡。馬龍是名了不起的球員，天賦滿滿。是，他在場外的確就是一個人渣，但是要知道很多名人堂球員在場外也是人渣啊！我並不是在為他某些齷蹉的行為開脫，但是NBA歷史名宿行列里並不是只有他一個人渣。但也就只有他一個人每次在Reddit上被提起時都會被扯上那檔子事。

[–]Heatclonedanmarinoplease 18 指標 18小時前

That』s because people take pedophelia seriously... and they should.

那是因為大家很重視戀童的問題……而且人們也應當重視。

[–][MIL] Giannis AntetokounmpoAntoniman 283 指標 1 天前

I find it blasphemous to not mention him when talking about greatest played of all time

我感覺，討論NBA歷史長河裡的偉大球員時沒提到斯托克頓簡直是在褻瀆神明。

[–][UTA] Delaney RuddDeathBySuplex 308 指標 1 天前

It』s cause he wasn』t flashy and played for Utah

爵士球迷：人們不提到他是因為他球風樸素，而且在猶他打球。

[–][MIL] Giannis AntetokounmpoAntoniman 170 指標 1 天前

I know. I think that he said something about the time when he went to the Olympics with the Dream Team. He said that all the other players where stopped by fans for autographs and pictures and he was the only one who the never disturbed.

對啊，我記得當時他隨夢之隊一起參加奧運會的時候就說過，當時其他球員都被球迷堵住要簽名和照相，而他是唯一一個沒人前來騷擾的。

[–]KingsGod_Papagiannis 211 指標 1 天前

It"s cause he looks like my high school English teacher

國王球迷：那是因為斯托克頓看起來就像我高中的英語老師一樣。

[–][UTA] Delaney RuddDeathBySuplex 114 指標 1 天前

There』s an old Inside the NBA segment with him legit walking up to people wearing Dream Team shirts and he』s talking to them and they don』t recognize him.

爵士球迷：我記得以前有一集「Inside the NBA」節目片段，裡面就是斯托克頓穿著夢之隊的衣服走進人群中，並開始跟別人聊天，但是沒有一個人把他認出來。

[–]RaptorsBowieScorvat 42 指標 1 天前

He"s the definition of a point guard.

斯托克頓就是控衛的定義。

[–]NBAatc32 97 指標 1 天前

I don"t think it"s that blasphemous to not put a guy who was never even top 5 in mvp voting in the GOAT conversation. Absurdly great player, first ballot hall of famer, but let"s not get crazy

我不認為把一個從來沒有在MVP競選中排進前五的球員放在史上最佳球員的討論之外是在褻瀆神明。他的確是名極其出色的偉大球員，板上釘釘的名人堂球員，但是讓咱們別吹太過了。

[–][MIL] Giannis AntetokounmpoAntoniman 52 指標 1 天前

Maybe I overreacted. But still, first in steals and assists of all time by a great margin

層主：我也許是有點誇張了，但是，斯托克頓的總搶斷和總助攻數可是遙遙領先歷史第二啊。

[–]ThunderRedactedrevisionist 66 指標 1 天前

What I mostly hate is how quickly he』s written off. I get that he doesn』t have an mvp(although for me him and Karl basically share some accolades cause you really wouldn』t have one without the other), but some people don』t even have him top5 all time PG and that』s just wrong.

令我感到討厭的是斯托克頓居然被淡忘地這麼迅速。他雖然沒贏過MVP獎（但是對於我來說他和馬龍基本上屬於共同享有這些獎項，因為他們倆缺一不可），但是有些人甚至沒有把他排進控衛前五，這很難接受啊。

Assists and steals records he holds are like Wilt levels of untouchable. CP3 is imo by far the best PG over the last 15 years(I』m sure some will say Curry and his scoring is historic but doesn』t have the longevity yet). He』s first in assists and steals over that time iirc, he』s the closest to Stockton in the league currently.

他的助攻和搶斷紀錄就好比張伯倫上古神獸的水平一樣難以接近。在我看來呢，保羅是過去15年來最出色的控衛（肯定有人會說庫里，庫里的得分水平實屬歷史級別，但是他的職業生涯還不夠長）。沒記錯的話，保羅的助攻和搶斷在過去十五年也是排名第一的，他是目前聯盟中最接近斯托克頓的。

I think when they did the numbers he would have to play 8 more years and average over 13 assists and 3 steals a game. That』s just ridiculous. Plus he was efficient and a great shooter. I really hate the fact that the era he played in diminished his scoring so much. He would』ve been an even better version of Steve Nash had he played in today』s game. Instead people shit on him for averaging 14ppg despite that basically being his role on the team.

算一算的話，保羅要追上斯托克頓的話接下來還得多打8年，且場均超過13個助攻和3個搶斷。這太瘋狂了。而且斯托克頓還那麼高效，也是優秀的投手。我真的很討厭人們在當時的年代大大忽視掉了他的得分能力這個事實。如果放在當今的時代，他絕對會是加強版的納什。但是呢，大家卻老是詬病他場均14分的得分，無視他當時在球隊中所處的角色。

[–][UTA] Delaney RuddDeathBySuplex 48 指標 1 天前

What"s hugely forgotten or for most of the reddit community, likely unknown is that Stockton did average 14 a game, but if the Jazz were winning comfortably?

He"d only have 10 or so, because he didn"t feel the need to score, because the team was winning.

爵士球迷：在這個論壇里人們最容易忘記的就是，斯托克頓確實場均14分，但是如果爵士贏球贏得很舒服呢？他就只需要拿個10來分差不多，因為他並不認為自己需要去得分，因為球隊在贏球呢。

If the game was tight or the Jazz came into the 4th quarter down? He"d score 20+. Stockton was the late game threat, but because he didn"t look to come out and drop 20 every game, people think he was incapable of scoring.

如果比賽焦灼或者爵士在進入第四節時落後呢？斯托克頓會拿下至少20分。斯托克頓越到比賽末越具威脅性，但是因為他並不是每場都指望自己需要砍下20分，所以人們就認為他得不了分。

Hell, I understand the Curry gravity and his shooting is insane, but prime Stockton was giving your team more total points a game with his 14 ppg and 15 assists than Curry"s MVP year of his scoring and lower assist averages.

我明白庫里的庫有引力和他的投射水平簡直是瘋狂，但是巔峰斯托克頓可是場均14分+15個助攻，比庫里MVP賽季的高得分和（相對）低助攻對球隊的總得分貢獻更大

[–]JazzIcandothemove 33 指標 1 天前

51.5% FG and 38% from 3 in the 80s/90s. John would have been a beast in todays game.

爵士球迷：這可是80年代90年代的51.5%的兩分命中率，38%的三分命中率。斯托克頓放在如今的聯盟絕對會是一隻野獸。

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