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對比西蒙斯、塔特姆和米切爾,美球迷:場均數據和場上位置完美匹配

[OC] Rookie Playoff Performances: Ben Simmons vs Jayson Tatum vs Donovan Mitchell


新秀季後賽表現對比:本-西蒙斯 vs 傑森-塔特姆 vs 多諾萬-米切爾










[–][CLE] LeBron JamesJAM35FH1 2220 指標 14小時前 


Tatum is the first person without legs to play in the NBA.


騎士球迷:如圖所示,塔特姆是NBA史上第一個沒有雙腿的球員。




[–][PHI] Allen IversonEuroStep0 1796 指標 14小時前 


No, Derrick Rose is.


76人球迷:才不,德里克-羅斯才是。



[–][DET] Chauncey BillupsHalbridious 127 指標 10小時前 


Hey OP, if you did the graphic, a quick photoshop tip: you can magic wand over stuff you"ve chopped out like that, (or, if it"s the only thing on a layer, just ctrl+click the layer icon). Then just go to selection and "contract" a pixel or 3 from the selection. A quick CTRL+ I and you can delete an extra bit of fuzz from your selection. You can also use "Refine Edge" in the selection menu to help smooth some edges before you delete (though personally, I would be using a mask layer).


活塞球迷:LZ你好啊,如果是你本人做的這張圖,分享個PS小技巧給你:摳圖後可以用魔棒再處理下(或者,圖層上只有這張圖的話,可以按住ctrl再單擊圖層按鈕),用快捷鍵CTRL+I可以再去掉一些模糊的部分。當然也可以用選項欄里的「優化邊緣「這個選項來幫助你對不滿意的部位進行邊緣優化處理(但就我個人而言,我會選擇使用圖層蒙版)。




[–]Psychological_Mind 10 指標 8小時前 


You forgot the most important stat: Posters on Lebron- Tatum 1 Simmons 0 Mitchell 0


老哥你忘了一項重要的數據:隔扣勒布朗次數--塔特姆1,西蒙斯0,米切爾0。





[–]PistonsWMUKirk 808 指標 14時前 


Never seen a rookie class so impactful in the important games.


活塞球迷:這屆新秀對重要比賽的影響程度真是我見過最大的。




[–]Hawksdaeve 515 指標 13小時前 


You must"ve missed Simmons going -63 vs Boston then


老鷹球迷:那你一定錯過了西蒙斯對陣凱爾特人正負值-63的表現。




[–]RaptorsGetLowwweee 297 指標 11小時前 


Mitchell was -42 against Houston as well and shot 36% from the field. It"s weird everyone brings up Simmons vs the Celtics but seem to ignore Mitchell"s struggles. They aren"t supposed to be able to make a huge impact deep in the playoffs. That"s why the Tatum stuff is so crazy.

猛龍球迷:別忘了米切爾在對陣火箭的時候正負值-42,同時命中率低至36%。想想就覺得奇怪,大家都在給西蒙斯對陣凱爾特人的系列賽表現開會,但好像卻忽略了米切爾的掙扎。這些新秀本不該具備對季後賽有如此深遠影響的能力,所以塔特姆打成這個樣子才讓人覺得極其瘋狂。




[–]Jazz BandwagonTheeOneUp 82 指標 10小時前* 


According to a lot of reports, Tatum was said to be the most pro ready player in the draft. Celtics head office are playing 4D chess.


爵士球迷:據很多記者報道,塔特姆(在選秀前)被認為是這屆新秀中最準備好打職業籃球的新秀。凱爾特人真是下了一副大棋。




[–]Cavaliers BandwagonSteelxSaint 53 指標 10小時前 


Tatum wasn"t as deadly from 3 as he is now, but his form was very fluid, so I can see why Ainge valued him over Fultz. But what are you talking about in regards to him being the most pro-ready? Everyone was saying that about Fultz.


騎士球迷:選秀的時候塔特姆可沒有像現在這樣致命的三分能力,但他的投籃非常順滑,所以我明白了為什麼安吉覺得他比福爾茨更有價值。但你說他是最具有職業準備的球員是個什麼情況?所有人都說福爾茨才是啊。



[–]Jazz BandwagonTheeOneUp 12 指標 10小時前 


I thought everyone said fultz was the most versatile.


爵士球迷:我還以為大家都說福爾茨是最萬金油的球員呢。




[–]Cavaliers BandwagonSteelxSaint 50 指標 10小時前


 He was seen as the most versatile and pro-ready player in the draft, but not the one with the highest ceiling.


騎士球迷:福爾茨被認為是這屆選秀中最萬金油且最具有職業準備的球員,但並不是上限最高的。






[–]PistonsWMUKirk 332 指標 13小時前 

+/- is horrible without context. When you play the majority of the minutes and your team is being waxed, you get waxed too.


活塞球迷:不論比賽背景單看正負值可不行。當你的球隊被打花而且你的出場時間很多,那你的正負值數據辣眼也是理所應當的啊。




[–]Hawksdaeve 242 指標 12小時前 


yeah but his backup McConnell was a +41.


老鷹球迷:這點我同意,但西蒙斯的替補TJ-麥康奈爾的正負值是+41啊。




[–]HornetsNamath96 90 指標 12小時前 


Not saying tj didn"t play great but he was also playing against the second unit for Boston more and Boston wasn"t exactly deep after all the injuries.


黃蜂球迷:我並不是說麥康奈爾打得不好,但他上場時對抗的更多的是凱爾特人的第二陣容,而凱爾特人在遭遇大面積傷病後的陣容深度確實也沒有那麼好了。



[–]Celticsogearty 63 指標 10小時前* 


But he started 2 games and was still a +21 for those 2.


凱爾特人球迷:但麥康奈爾首發打了兩場比賽,而且這兩場的正負值依然是+21。




[–]Thunderdrewskki1 83 指標 9小時前 


the guy asked for context, is given context, and argues that context is not contexutal enough lmao


雷霆球迷:哈哈哈哈層主要求看特定的比賽背景,大家把背景列出來之後,他又覺得背景不夠全面。





[–]Trail BlazersIsMiseOzz 193 指標 14小時前 


Tatum also played an extra round.


開拓者球迷:別忘了,塔特姆多打了一輪系列賽。




[–]NBAArronax31 131 指標 11小時前 


I"m inclined to give him the top spot for that reason but Mitchell was his team"s offense, Celtics had the better all-around squad.


沒錯,正因為他多打了一輪系列賽,我更傾向覺得他的表現最好。但米切爾就是爵士的進攻體系,而凱爾特人的陣容更均衡一些。




[–]Hotsaucex11 163 指標 10小時前 


IMO it"s easily Mitchell when you consider the caliber of competition he faced and the massive role he was tasked with. Facing Westbrook/OKC then Harden/HOU makes for a much tougher set of matchups than either of the other guys faced. And he did that while often guarding the opposing superstar AND having a 31% usage rate (compared to just 22% and 23% for Tatum/Simmons).

如果考慮對手的陣容和承擔下來的角色,我認為米一其隨。第一輪對陣雷霆和威少,第二輪對陣火箭和哈登,比起其他兩位新秀的境遇,米切爾的境遇更加艱難,與此同時,他還在防守對方的超級明星,也打出了31%的使用率(塔特姆是22%,西蒙斯是23%)。




That"s not to say he"s necessarily the best prospect going forward, just that he had the most impressive playoffs.


我不是說米切爾一定就是這三人里最有前景的那個,只是說他的季後賽表現最令人印象深刻。




[–][CLE] LeBron JamesBabu_the_Ocelot 46 指標 10小時前 


I agree - I think if Mitchell and Tatum swapped places Mitchell would have done similarly as well as Tatum has - that"s not to knock Tatum but rather to point out that Mitchell is at least on that level and shouldn"t be knocked just because he didn"t reach the conference finals in a stronger Western Conference.


騎士球迷:我同意 – 我覺得如果米切爾和塔特姆互換位置的話,米切爾的發揮也差不多 – 我沒有黑塔特姆的意思,而是想指出米切爾至少和塔特姆在同一水平,而且米切爾不應該因為僅僅沒有在競爭更慘烈的西部打到分區決賽就被黑。




[–]Jazz BandwagonTheeOneUp 61 指標 10小時前 


I think Mitchell would have done better on the Celtics.


爵士球迷:我覺得米切爾如果在凱爾特人的話,他能打得更好。






[–]Knickspatricknelson31 68 指標 12小時前 


It』s like stats are cancelled out. I』m excited for the future of this league now more then ever.


尼克斯球迷1:他們三個的數據看上去無差,太刺激了,我比任何時候都要期待這個聯盟的未來。




[–]76ersNeodyminion 206 指標 14小時前 


Looks like stat lines that go with their position. They』ve all played well.


76人球迷1:感覺數據跟他們打的位置完美匹配。他們都打得很棒。




[–]76ersXO_WHORE_Llif3 144 指標 11小時前 


I』m surprised by this. Simmons had an awful series against Boston and I didn』t think his stats would be this impressive.


76人球迷2:看到這圖我都驚呆了,西蒙斯對凱爾特人的系列賽打得稀爛,沒想到他的數據還是這麼好。




[–][PHI] Ben SimmonsIVAN_CLEARY 72 指標 10小時前 


Totally. He was ridiculous against Miami, held his stats up.


76人球迷3:可不嘛,對陣熱火的系列賽他簡直無所不能,把數據保住了。




[–]76ersgcamp512 33 指標 10小時前 


He averaged close to a triple double against Miami


76人球迷4:對陣熱火的系列賽他接近場均三雙啊。




[–][NYK] Cezary TrybanskiTrRa47 39 指標 8小時前* 


Ben Simmons" lack of scoring and poise in pressure moments really soured him for a lot of people. That being said, I think he"s better than what he"s getting credit for. Best passer, rebounder, very high basketball IQ, as far as defense it"s between him and Tatum, and the same level of confidence. I just don"t see how we can definitively say the other 2 are better players. I get that the game is, and has always been about, putting the ball in the basket, but Simmons brings a lot to the table IMO.


尼克斯球迷2:西蒙斯得分少+關鍵時刻巨大壓力下隱身確實惹來了不少批評。不過,他的實際水平要比得到的評價要高。這三個人里,就防守端來說,他跟塔特姆差不多,不過西蒙斯是更好的傳球手和籃板球手,籃球智商也很高。自信程度上這個人倒是一檔。我懂,籃球比賽就是且一直會是為了把球擱進筐里,但在我看來西蒙斯能為比賽做出的貢獻更多。




[–][SEA] Shawn Kempbennyboy82[S] 39 指標 8小時前 


People are overreacting. There』s a reason simmons got the most all star votes, all nba votes, and all defense votes out of the three.


超音速球迷:你們都反應過度了。西蒙斯在以下三個評選中都得到了最多的投票:全明星賽,最佳陣容,最佳防守陣容。這可不是沒有原因的



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