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深入討論G1,美國球迷:騎士該多用科沃爾和奧斯曼,別用克拉克森

[Serious Next Day Thread] The Golden State Warriors (1-0) defeat the Cleveland Cavaliers (0-1), 124-114


【嚴肅賽後】金州勇士隊主場124-114戰勝克利夫蘭騎士隊,總比分1-0領先。





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[–]GrizzliesrediKELous 655 指標 8小時前


I don"t think I have seen a crazier nba game since the Ron Artest fight with the fans like 15 years ago.


Also, why is Nance not getting more and more important minutes? It seems like his court presence makes whatever other 4 are out there much better.


灰熊球迷:自15年前阿泰斯特暴揍球迷以來,我就再也沒看到過比這還瘋狂的NBA比賽了。


還有,為毛不增加小南斯的上場時間?感覺他在球場的存在感帶動著另外四人打得更好。



[–][IND] Reggie Millerindiankid13 211 指標 8小時前


Nance is somewhat redundant with Thompson and isn』t as good defensively. He does provide a lot of energy though


步行者球迷:湯普森(TT)在場的時候再上小南斯就有點多餘了,而且小南斯的防守還是不怎麼給力。不過他在上場確實為球隊提供了不少能量。




[–]TimberwolveOnePieceAce 874 指標 9小時前


Didn"t get to watch the game cus I was working but I watched it this morning.


LeBron is LeBron dude is a GOD at this point.


Steph/Klay/Draymond showed up.


KD was not as good as his stat line suggested. Got beat on the boards, defense was not there at all times.

森林狼球迷:比賽那天因為要上班沒空看,不過我今天早上看了一下錄像。


勒布朗還是勒布朗,他現在就是神。


庫里/克萊/格林都站了出來。


杜蘭特的表現沒他數據上顯示的那麼好,籃板被搶爆,防守也不在線。




I think the Cavs can hang with them. Warriors seem to lack focus at times this playoffs, bench isn"t as good.


More Korver and more Cedi and LESS FUCKING CLARKSON.


我感覺騎士還是有能力和勇士一戰的。今年季後賽勇士有時候會放鬆注意力,替補的表現也不盡如人意。


另外,騎士要多用用科沃爾和奧斯曼,別!他!媽!再!上!克!拉!克!森!了!



[–]surffreak33 333 指標 9小時前


Clarkson is so fucking unbelievably bad


克拉克森是真特么垃圾到人無法想像。




[–][UTA] Greg Ostertagartie_fresh 142 指標 8小時前


Dude shoots from the 3 point line and lands at the free throw line


爵士球迷:這哥們三分線起跳投籃,落地在罰球線。




[–]NuggetsRedSoxEatPoop 333 指標 9小時前


KD really needs to stop trying to play hero ball late in games. He has two of the best shooters in NBA history on his team yet he takes a deep 2 with 14 seconds left on the shot clock with 1 minute left in the game instead of moving the ball or finding Curry or Klay who were hitting all game.

It"s selfish and it pisses me off.


掘金球迷:杜蘭特可別再在比賽末段整個人英雄主義那一出了,明明身邊有兩個史上最佳射手,結果比賽最後一分鐘的時候,杜蘭特在進攻時間還剩14秒的時候就出手了個長兩分而不是多運球消磨時間或者把球交給手感火熱的庫里/克萊。


講道理,這種打法很自私,真的讓我很生氣。




[–]ub3rscoober 141 指標 8小時前


It"s his second year in this system and he still doesn"t understand what makes the Warriors what they are. Keep the offense flowing and the momentum will build. But nah...let"s just iso again. That and him just watching the ball on that last rebound just blows my mind. I"m not sure why he seems to be lacking intensity in his game during the finals.


這是杜蘭特在勇士的第二年了,可惜他還是沒整明白勇士的籃球真諦。只有在進攻端充分的轉移球才會打出良好的進攻勢頭。而杜蘭特卻自顧自的玩單打。最後一回合他就站那看著別人搶籃板讓我很無語……搞不懂為什麼他在總決賽喪失了自己的比賽強度。






[–][CHI] Derrick Rosejeric13xd 1722 指標 9小時前*

I』m still in awe of JR』s blunder. How can you be a professional basketball player and be totally unaware of the situation IN the biggest game of the year? Then you have the audacity to say that you knew the score was tied after the game when everyone else before you said you thought you were up. The guy』s head is still floating somewhere else. Zero awareness of his surroundings still. I bet George Hill was so happy JR took the heat off him immediately.


公牛球迷:我還沒從JR的智障操作中走出來。作為職業籃球運動員怎麼可以在今年目前為止最重要的比賽里,完全搞不清場上局勢?而且在賽後其他人都表明JR以為比分領先的情況下,還厚顏無恥的說自己知道比分。他的心思根本就不在這,沒有認清局勢。還有,希爾自己罰球丟的鍋馬上就被JR接下了,估計他也是長舒一口氣。




P.S. that』s also like 3 straight games that KD has been off most of the game and he still wants to hero ball at the end. So happy when Steph finally got the ball away from him and got the And One


PS:杜蘭特已經連續三場比賽像今天這樣,全場大部分時間夢遊結果還想在最後時刻單打英雄球。很高興看到庫里掌控球權而不是杜蘭特,成功打進2+1。


Edit: i think its actually 4 out of last 5 games for KD. You guys are right he was good in Game 7


校訂:仔細一想,杜蘭特應該是至少在過去五場比賽里有四場都是這種表現,很多人評論說他西決G7打得好,這點我承認,確實打得不錯。




[–]CavaliersRyanW1019 493 指標 8小時前


They"re two different orders of magnitude of errors. Even though Hill would have been roasted by the community, missed free throws happen to everyone. At least he knew what he was supposed to do and tried his best. Whereas J.R. had a complete lack of awareness of the situation and what the right basketball play was.

騎士球迷:(希爾和JR)完全是兩個級別的錯誤。儘管要是沒JR那檔子事,希爾可能會被球迷狂批,但是每個人都會罰丟球,這點無可厚非。最起碼希爾知道該做什麼,也爭取去罰進。而JR喃?他完全不知道場上什麼局面,也完全不知道該幹嘛。




[–]CelticsBlueJays007 198 指標 8小時前


Yep I agree. Hill"s missed free throw wasn"t something I thought should be really held against him, at least not more than missed free throws are to any of the other players who missed them. I actually was worried that Steph would get off a three and thought missing it and getting the rebound was ideal because I"m so used to Lebron clutch plays.


凱爾特人球迷:沒毛病,希爾不該因罰丟一球而被過份指責。就算批評,那也不應超過其他球員因罰球不進受到的口誅筆伐。我當時還真挺擔心庫里最後一攻會進個三分殺死比賽,所以最後一球罰丟然後搶到籃板是理想的局面,因為關鍵時刻勒布朗的神級操作你們都懂的。




But JR"s mistake was just inexcusable, and he made it worse by lying which could"ve made his coach a liar if everyone hadn"t seen him mouth the truth to Lebron on live tv already.


然而JR的失誤真的不可原諒。更糟糕的是,如果不是我們通過口型看到他對勒布朗說的話,那麼他賽後撒的謊會可能已經把泰倫-盧塑造成了一個騙子。





[–]WarriorsLZ_Khan 505 指標 9小時前


On the plus side.. the fact that he got an offensive rebound on a FT is pretty insane.


勇士球迷:積極的一面是……JR能搶到那個前場籃板也真的挺不容易的。




[–][CHI] Derrick Rosejeric13xd 377 指標 8小時前


I blame that on KD』s weak attempt of a box out


公牛球迷:杜蘭特責無旁貸,他根本沒有努力卡位。




[–]Warriorstonybuckets21 359 指標 9小時前*


Someone please tell me why LeBron wasn"t on the line instead of JR for a potential offensive rebound of a missed free throw at the end of a tied game in the first place?!?

The Warriors were 99% going to call a timeout if they got the board. So it should be all hands on deck to keep that from happening in my opinion.


勇士球迷:誰能解釋下為什麼在這麼關鍵的時候,是JR而不是勒布朗站三秒區等著搶籃板?如果勇士拿到籃板,他們99%會立馬叫暫停,所以我覺得騎士應該會拼盡全力去搶這個籃板。




[–][DAL] Dirk NowitzkiSayter 227 指標 9小時前


Warriors have a reputation for not calling a timeout and pushing the ball in situations like that where most teams call a timeout.


like... thats their thing...


獨行俠球迷:勇士可是出了名的不叫暫停直接干,特別是一般球隊都會叫暫停的時候,他們偏不叫。


怎麼說喃,這就是勇士的風格吧……




[–]NuggetsRedSoxEatPoop 392 指標 9小時前


Someone tell me why KD did not even move his fucking arms to grab that ball...?


And Lebron wasn"t there I"m guessing to be back on defense just in case Curry were to leak out if GS got the rebound.


KD almost blew this game multiple times, I"m glad Curry bailed him out.


掘金球迷:誰能解釋下為啥杜蘭特沒有抬起他高貴的大長胳膊去抓球?


還有勒布朗沒站過去搶板應該是為了留在後場堵截可能溜出來的庫里。


杜蘭特有好幾次差點葬送掉這場比賽,很高興庫里能力挽狂瀾,保送杜蘭特。




[–]Jazzjohnstocktonshorts 240 指標 8小時前


nah that was actually a tough bounce, and pretty impressive rebound by JR. Just to think this sub could be praising him if he kicked it out or put it back up in time...


爵士球迷:其實也不怪杜蘭特,那個球彈框後的角度其實挺難讓防守球員搶到的,JR能搶到真的很不錯。如果他能及時控制住球回傳給隊友的話,估計就會各種吹而不是各種噴了……






[–]Warriorsneedofheadhelp 214 指標 9小時前


I wish KD would stop going all hero ball in the 4th. We were better in those situations without him. Curry basically had to keep it away from him by the end. He goes right back to his roots and forgets all about the small ball at times. I miss pre-KD warriors


勇士球迷:希望杜蘭特第四節不要再打英雄球了。這種關鍵局面他不在我們反而能表現更好。最後的時候,庫里甚至只能不傳球給他才能扼殺他打英雄求的慾望。杜蘭特時不時會忘記小球打法而只顧自己的老一套單打。哎,好懷念杜蘭特


加入之前的勇士隊。




[–][SAC] Peja StojakovicI-AM-WARHOL 234 指標 9小時前


Felt like watching MVP Curry again last night. Keeps playing this well, he"s got his FMVP.


馬刺球迷:昨晚的庫里讓我感覺那個MVP又回來了,繼續這麼打下去,他會得到自己的FMVP的!




[–][GSW] Klay ThompsonCallOfKtulu24 217 指標 9小時前


Curry was fantastic. If he keeps it up and GS wins he should get FMVP.


勇士球迷:庫里真的很棒!如果他能保持下去幫助勇士獲得總冠軍的話,他就是當之無愧的FMVP。




[–]Grizzliesjbrooks772 134 指標 9小時前


His defense, even 1 on 1, was really good.


灰熊球迷:庫里的防守,就算是單防的時候,實際上也是很不錯的。




[–]Guevarra25 133 指標 9小時前


This Golden State team is Curry"s and Curry"s alone. Take KD out this team and they are still a force, take Curry out and they are a different team.


這是庫里且只是庫里的勇士隊。沒有杜蘭特勇士還強,但如果沒有了庫里,一切就都變味了。




Durant maybe one of the best scorers ever with his size and ability to create shots, but he also kills the ball movement that the Warriors were so good at doing. Doing post ups or dribbling at the top for a 3, after only one pass from the inbound, his poor movement off the ball if the play is not for him and you essentially lose what Mark Jackson has created.


得益於身高臂長和創造投籃的能力,杜蘭特也許是史上最好的得分手之一,但是他的存在也阻斷了勇士引以為傲的進攻端球的轉移。如果球從底線發出來只傳導一次就開始交給杜蘭特背身單打或者在弧頂運幾下就干拔三分,而且再加上勇士沒有給杜蘭特打戰術時他糟糕的無球移動,那基本上馬克-傑克遜為勇士打造的一切立馬蕩然無存。






[–][TOR] Tracy McGradyTeBenny 193 指標 9小時前


This is the one that the Cavs could"ve stolen. This is exactly the trauma that the raptors felt in round 2 game 1. Now I"ll be betting warriors sweep.


猛龍球迷:騎士本來完全可以偷下這場比賽的勝利。次輪首戰我龍受到的創傷跟騎士這場一模一樣的,後來一瀉千里啊。現在我會賭勇士能橫掃騎士。




[–]CavaliersOhHIghO 117 指標 9小時前


Yea idk if the Cavs are as mentally fragile as the Raptors. They"re in a class of their own. I think we come out fighting and take at least 1 at home.


At least I hope, just spent 300 on tix for game 4 lol


騎士球迷:是啊,但我也不清楚我騎是不是像猛龍一樣心理脆弱。猛龍的心理素質簡直獨一檔,我覺得我們一定會努力鬥爭並至少在克利夫蘭拿下一場勝利。


至少我希望是這樣,畢竟我剛花了四百美元買第四場的球票。




[–]PelicansGood_NewsEveryone 921 指標 9小時前


I gotta wonder how this effects LeBron mentally. After such a performance. To lose because of crappy whistles and an epic blunder by your teammate. I just don』t know how you get up to do that again in game 2. He』s LeBron so maybe he does anyway. But that』s just tough


鵜鶘球迷:不知道這(G1)對詹姆斯心理上會不會有什麼影響。他打出了逆天表現,卻因為爛哨和隊友的史詩級ZZ操作和勝利失之交臂。真不知道勒布朗怎麼才能克服沮喪在G2繼續雄起。我知道他是勒布朗,所以他可能無論如何都會做到,只是這很難,真的很難。




[–]Rockets BandwagonCHARLESBRINK 629 指標 9小時前


If i』m LeBron, I use this to motivate my teammates. Like 『hey we are the biggest underdogs in finals history against 4 HOFers in their prime and we were right there in their house. We can beat these guys.』


火箭球迷:如果我是勒布朗我會這麼鼓勵隊友:對抗四個正值巔峰的未來名人堂球員,我們是NBA決賽歷史上最不被看好的下狗,但是在他們的主場,我們差一點點就贏下了比賽,所以我們是可以打敗他們的!




[–][CLE] LeBron JamesSweaty_LeBron 380 指標 9小時前


I try to force myself to think like this, but man i am miserable all day because of this. And i personally think dubs blow us out by 30+ next game( hopefully im wrong)


騎士球迷:哥們,我也是盡量這麼安慰自己的,但是我太難受了,一整天都緩不過來。而且我覺得下一場勇士會狂勝我們30分(希望我想錯了)。




[–][UTA] Greg Ostertagartie_fresh 208 指標 8小時前


Im not a Lebron fan by any means. But i was so salty after last night. I literally felt like a devastated fan. And I also agree with you on the last point. I think GSW win by 20+ on Sunday. Fucking sucks.


爵士球迷:我一直對勒布朗無感,但是看了昨晚比賽我酸得不行。感覺瞬間變成了心之將死的詹姆斯球迷。還有你最後說的我深有同感,勇士周日(北京時間周一)會贏20+,真是太他媽操蛋了。



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