克萊表示其他球隊需要加油，美國球迷：我還想勇士能變差一點呢

運動 06-04

[BR] Klay Thompson on 4th Warriors-Cavs Finals: "Rest of the NBA Has to Get Better"

[BR]克萊-湯普森評價騎勇4.0：「其他球隊得加把勁啊。」

[–]KnickstheMASSIVEtrain 129 指標 6小時前

This is like that kid that gets an A on every test and then telling everybody else to 「get smarter」

這就好比每次考試都滿分的大學霸指著所有人說：「你們聰明點嘛。」

[–]San_Jose_Dude 684 指標 6小時前

I demand the warriors just get worse ??????

克萊這話說的，我還要求勇士隊變差一點！

[–]eeeeeeethan 130 指標 5小時前

you are cute

樓上還真是個小可愛呢。

[–]San_Jose_Dude 192 指標 5小時前

Thanks ur not to bad yourself ????

蟹蟹！你也炒雞萌！么么噠！

[–][BOS] Terry RozierScarbzz 340 指標 5小時前

I』m about to turn on 2k18 and cook these guys because thats the only way the current warriors will lose in the finals.

凱爾特人球迷：我現在就打開2K18把這幫人給做了，這是唯一一種讓現在的勇士隊輸掉總決賽的方法了。

[–]SupersonicsBuurDown 86 指標 1小時前

Literally I』m gonna drop 84 with LeBron to make myself feel better

港真，我會用詹姆斯狂砍84分，這樣我會好受一些。

[–][NYK] Damyean DotsonRasheediscool 271 指標 6小時前

He"s not wrong

他也沒說錯。

[–]76erswProNoobw 2905 指標 6小時前

GiT GuD you scrubs. -klay

「一群菜B，回家練球去吧。」——克萊。

[–]klawhileonard 1390 指標 6小時前

「Why doesn』t everyone just go sign a KD?」

「為什麼大家不都去簽個杜蘭特呢？」

[–]Warriorssumchinesewill 655 指標 5小時前

"It isn"t our fault Barnes got really good. He"s so good that it"s almost like he"s a different player or something」

「我們的首發小前鋒巴恩斯球技突飛猛進不是我們的錯啊，他現在太牛逼了，好像是變了一個人似的！」

[–]Warriors BandwagonQaanol 315 指標 4小時前

"They say you can"t teach height, but Harrison learned it anyway.」

「他們說身高是學不來的，但是巴恩斯竟然還是學到了秘訣！」

[譯註1]

[譯註1]：調侃蠢萌的克萊。

[–]Bleacher Reportbleacherreport 167 指標 4小時前

[–]Celticstoiyg 186 指標 6小時前

If you made 5 teams with the same star power as the warriors you』d eliminate the NBA 『middle class』 and create even more league disparity

凱爾特人球迷：如果你讓五支球隊都能擁有勇士隊這種級別的明星陣容，那麼NBA的「中產球隊」就會消失，聯盟的強弱差距就更大了。

[–]nowhathappenedwas 317 指標 6小時前

What if you made one team in the East good enough to beat a LeBron-and-Duct-Tape Cavs squad?

那要是你在東部能成功打造一支可以擊敗克利夫蘭-「勒布朗和一堆菜雞」-騎士的球隊呢？

[–]Celticsfdahood 156 指標 5小時前*

Pretty sure there is a rule against that. "LeBron must go to finals for the east" or something. Think I saw it in my college physics textbook.

凱爾特人球迷：我感覺這世界肯定有一條諸如「詹姆斯必須為了東部打進總決賽」這類的法則。我記得在高中物理課本上看到過這東西。

[–]rojan-rando 3368 指標 6小時前

Let me just go down to the store and buy me a Kevin Durant and some vets who are willing to take pay cuts

莫慌，且容我去趟商店買個阿杜和幾個願意降薪的老將回來。

[–]Jazz BandwagonTheoDawg 1007 指標 5小時前*

Oh, get a snake? Just get a snake? Why don"t I strap on my snake helmet and squeeze down into a snake cannon and fire off into oklahoma city, where snakes grow on Prestis?!

哦，所以就是找條蛇唄？找條蛇就完了唄？那我幹嘛不直接戴上我的無敵蛇盔，團成一團擠進威猛蛇彈炮，對準雷管總部一發入魂？反正普雷斯蒂就是養蛇的啊！

[譯註2]

[譯註2]改編自美國喜劇《It"s always sunny in Philadelphia》的一段台詞：「Just get a job? Why don"t I strap on my job helmet, and squeeze down into a job cannon, AND FIRE OFF INTO JOBLAND, WHERE JOBS GROW ON JOBBIES?!!!」（哦？找個工作就完了唄？這麼簡單是吧？我帶上我的工作頭盔，把我自己塞進工作大炮里，然後直接射到工作島上就完了唄？那裡遍地都是工作是不？）

[–]ThunderIncaseAce[S] 318 指標 6小時前

2nd best player in the world no less

雷霆球迷：而且勇士的這個引援還恰好是全世界第二強的球員啊。

[–]San Diego Rocketsblueberryy 243 指標 5小時前

yeah it"s hard for the rest of the NBA to get better when players rightfully want to get paid their worth but can"t compete with KD not getting a max

火箭球迷：是啊，在球員們都合理合情地尋求和自己能力所等值的合同但杜蘭特卻不拿頂薪的情況下，想讓NBA的其他球隊變得更好（從而擊敗勇士）可不是說的這麼簡單啊。

[–]Karma_whisperer 230 指標 5小時前

Golden State doesn"t get KD or any vets on pay cuts if they aren"t good....

They set the base with great drafting, coaching, and luck to put themselves in a position to be able to sign free agents.

要是勇士隊不強，杜蘭特和任何一個老將也不會降薪加盟他們啊……

出色的選秀、執教以及運氣是基礎，有了這些勇士才能讓自己處在一個能夠簽下多名自由球員的位置。

[–]Jazzracast5 267 指標 4小時前

They didn"t just have great drafting, they had miracle drafts. You can"t pretend like any team in the NBA can go and turn a #7, #11, and #35 pick into steph curry, klay thomspon, and draymond green. So many high drafts are busts and so many low picks end up excelling and it"s impossible to tell who"s gonna be who.

爵士球迷：他們不僅僅是擁有出色的選秀啊，可以說簡直是開了天眼一樣。你不要告訴我任何一支NBA球隊都能用7號、11號和35號簽選來庫里、克萊和追夢格林。有太多水掉的高順位新秀，也有太多逆襲的低順位新秀，想要對新秀的未來做出準確判斷簡直是不可能的任務。

Then they explode in a year where the cap sees the largest expansion ever and the second best player in the NBA turns free agent. There"s just 0 chance you could recreate that situation with another team. The warriors have done amazing using their assets. But its an insane amount of luck and chance to put that team together. You just can"t pretend like if any other front office "got good" that they could do the same thing.

然後，在工資帽即將迎來史上最大漲幅和聯盟第二好的球員成為自由身的這同一個賽季，他們打出了爆炸表現。想在另外一支球隊複製這種情況是毫無可能的。勇士隊已經把他們手裡的牌打出了花，但是打造這樣一支球隊是需要難以想像的運氣和機率的。你覺得其他管理層「變好一點」就能完成這項偉業了？這是自欺欺人。

[–]apoorlydrawndragon 105 指標 4小時前

I will forever argue nature vs nurture. Do Steph Klay and Green find the same level of success on other teams without GSW"s coaching and each other?

我一直認為後天培養大於先天水平。要是沒有勇士隊的教練組和彼此的兼容加成，庫里、克萊和格林在其他球隊能打出這種水平嗎？

[–]RaptorsKonfliction 596 指標 6小時前

Every player in the league should willingly take pay cuts so the perfect teams can be organized. That』ll help.

猛龍球迷：按照克萊的意思，聯盟裡面的所有球員都應該自覺自愿地接受降薪，然後就能組建多支超級球隊了。這樣肯定就行了是吧？呵呵。

[–]WarriorsDraymondsPeen 237 指標 5小時前

you"re not completely wrong, but we went for 73 and were arguably the greatest regular season team of all time w/o KD

勇士球迷：你說的不算錯，但是我們沒有杜蘭特的時候就打出了73勝賽季，可以爭一爭史上最強常規賽隊伍了。

[–]RaptorsKonfliction 530 指標 5小時前

I know, I actually loved pre-KD Warriors. IMO they personified the best parts of the NBA at times, insanely well drafted team, boosted by good, but not insane, signings.

猛龍球迷：我知道啊，我其實很喜歡沒有杜蘭特時的你勇。在我看來，那支球隊是NBA天秀操作的集大成者，通過逆天選秀奠定基礎，加以出色但沒有開掛的球員簽約打造而成。

How could you bash a team that gets those win numbers on the back of their own draft picks in Curry, Klay, Green and Barnes.

It"s just KD, that one move made them the biggest villains in the league.

這樣一支依靠自己選來的庫里、克萊、追夢、巴恩斯而拿到如此無敵勝率的球隊，你怎能不愛啊。

只不過，杜蘭特的決定，就這一個操作，讓勇士直接成了整個聯盟的超級大反派。

[–]HawksProdigy195 272 指標 4小時前

That"s what most disappointing. 2015 I was fine with them winning. They were league darlings, 2016 I didn"t care who won either cause it was a good competitive series.

這就是最讓人失望的部分。2015年看他們奪冠時我很開心，他們是聯盟的寵兒，2016年我也並不在意誰最後奪冠，因為那個系列賽太激烈太好看了。

It"s really just 2017 onward that"s a bummer. I get why KD did it, I get why GS signed him but god damn it just made it less enjoyable for me personally. Hardcore fans can"t tell me that the 2016 finals weren"t more exciting than 2017. Yeah there was game 3 but outside of the Golden State won pretty handily last year. 2015 and 2016 it was at least a question of "what"s gonna happen".

2017年往後真的是沒意思。我理解為什麼杜蘭特要加盟勇士，我也理解勇士隊為什麼簽下他，但是我個人就是覺得，好特么沒意思啊。死忠球迷肯定不會覺得17年總決賽比16年好看吧。是的，G3勇士輸了（記錯了，其實是G4），但是除去那場比賽，勇士去年的奪冠之路真是不費吹灰之力啊。2015年和16年的時候，至少大家還會討論「會發生什麼」呢。

[–]IdontlikeChinesefood 1544 指標 6小時前

I mean, I get the KD signing was an issue because it put them out of reach, but the Dubs did everything by the book. They drafted most of their good players when everyone else passed on them. Everyone does need to get better.

我理解勇士簽下杜蘭特惹了爭議，因為這讓他們變得過分強大了，但是勇士隊的所作所為完全是合理合規啊。他們大部分的核心球員都是選秀得到的，而其他球隊都錯過了他們。所有人確實都需要做得更好啊。

[–]Wizardsacosmichippo 807 指標 6小時前*

yeah. it"s not unlike where OKC could have been if they kept KD and Harden.

edit: And got a good coach.

是啊。如果雷管當時沒有放走杜蘭特和哈登，現在的宇宙隊估計就是雷霆了吧。

修改：他們還得找個好教練。

[–]ThunderL0rv- 478 指標 5小時前*

There"s a timeline where Scott Brooks doesn"t do well just before his extension and Presti hires Brad Stevens. (who he was super interested in at the time)

雷霆球迷：在一個平行宇宙里，布魯克斯教練在續約之前執教表現不佳，而普雷斯蒂炒了他，聘用了史蒂文斯教練（而且當時普雷斯蒂確實對史蒂文斯很感興趣）。

[–]Warriorsdomomon 291 指標 5小時前

Damn can"t even imagine what kind of a death squad that woulda been

勇士球迷：我勒個去，真要是那樣，不敢想像你雷會有多逆天！

[–]IdontlikeChinesefood 158 指標 5小時前

Right, but that"s not the Warriors" problem. They have had a great bench and teammates who have defined roles and are willing to take cuts to play. They have a strong team culture, too. That"s a special thing developed by the Warriors.

樓上說的有理，但是這並不是勇士隊的問題。他們擁有不錯的板凳球員，還有一群角色分工明確並且願意降薪的隊友們。他們的球隊文化也很強大。這就是勇士隊的特別之處。

[–]LennoxAve 373 指標 5小時前

People lose sight of how organically this team has grown. Curry was #7 pick , Klay was #11 and Draymond was #35. These guys were developed in house. The front office created a good culture that was supplemented by good coaching.

人們忽視了這支球隊是如何一步步成長起來的。庫里是7號秀，克萊是11號秀，格林是35號秀。這些球員都是在勇士隊內成長起來的。勇管創造了出色的球隊文化，而出色的執教為球隊的成長添磚加瓦。

Aside from signing Durant , a lot of other teams had the same if not more opportunities to create something similar via draft and good roster management. I don』t like the warriors but this team is a representation of good scouting , drafting , player development and roster management.

除了簽下杜蘭特以外，很多其他球隊也都有很大機會通過選秀和陣容管理來打造相似的強隊啊。我不喜歡勇士隊，但是這支球隊是球探工作、選秀工作、球員發展和陣容管理合為一體的傑出代表。

My biggest gripe with the team right now is how they finessed KD to sign below his market value. He helped ownership lessen their financial burden which in turn allows them to sustain their run for a longer period. You can only sustain a fat payroll and luxury tax bill for so long before you tap out.

我對勇士隊現在最大的怨念就是他們是如何略施巧計讓杜蘭特降薪續約的。阿杜讓管理層的財政負擔大大減輕了，而這讓他們的統治力得以延續更久。巨額工資和奢侈稅對球隊的壓力可不是開玩笑的，沒多久就會讓管理層實在承擔不起。

[–]Trail BlazersRandvek 211 指標 3小時前

Aside from signing Durant

In all fairness, you must concede that that is a really fucking huge 「aside」 there.

「除了簽下杜蘭特以外」。

平心而論，你必須承認這個「除了」實在是太特么無賴了。

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