巔峰羅斯晃暈埃文斯引起回憶無數，他的變向力度既是福也是禍？

One of the quickest crossovers I"ve seen: Derrick Rose crosses Tyreke Evans so hard that Reke kept spinning after falling down

我見過的最快變向之一：羅斯急速變向把泰瑞克-埃文斯晃了個七葷八素，原地打轉。

[–]76ersImperfect_Luck 519 指標 5 天前

Shoutout to Derrick Rose

76人球迷：為羅斯瘋狂打Call！

[–]BullsTallAssFuker 308 指標 5 天前

r/nba has been having a lot of prime Rose post. It makes me very sad and happy at the same time.

公牛球迷：話題區最近有很多關於巔峰羅斯的帖子，真是讓我悲喜交加啊，唉。

[–]GRIBIKKLOL 117 指標 5 天前

Because everyone knows he』s about to ball this year. That』s why, please.

因為大家都知道今年羅斯會重振旗鼓的，這才是原因曉得不（求求上帝了）。

[–][CHI] Derrick RoseChiTownDRose 2014 指標 5 天前

Does it hurt anyone else to watch old Derrick Rose highlights? It pains me because of how he once was so good... :[

Still support him.

公牛球迷：有沒有人在看羅斯高光集錦的時候覺得傷心？我每次看了都很難受，因為他曾經那麼完美。

不過我仍然支持他，矢志不渝。

[–]ReverendLoveboy 614 指標 5 天前

Pavel Bure in the NHL with a similar skill set. Dude was one of the fastest on the ice and moved so naturally. His body couldn"t keep up with the dank moves he"d put on defenders. I need to find you a clip

NHL的帕維爾-布爾和羅斯的技術特點很像。這哥們是冰上滑的最快最自然的球員之一。後來他的身體也抗不住自己在防守球員面前完成的那些騷操作了。我得找個視頻給你瞧瞧。

[–]LakersLordCommanderSmith 50 指標 5 天前

Can I get a quick summary on this guy? That reel was insane.

湖人球迷：誰能給我簡單科普下這哥們的來歷？那段集錦太不可思議了。

[–]ReverendLoveboy 160 指標 5 天前

they called him the russian rocket. He was the toast of the town in the KHL (russian hockey league) and legitimately had all time great talent. Dude had D Rose type end to end speed, handles like CP3, and a finishing ability like whoever because my brain just farted on comparison.

帕維爾江湖人稱「俄羅斯火箭」，是俄羅斯曲棍聯盟的寵兒，天賦空前絕後。他的速度像羅斯一樣迅猛，運球像保羅一樣駕輕就熟，終結能力像……額，我大腦短路實在想不起來了，愛誰誰吧。

He was one of the best goal scorers in the league, got drafted by the Canucks in the early 90"s, lost to the rangers in the 94 finals. After his career high 60 goal season in... 93? I wanna say. His health fell apart, most of the next 4-5 years were injury riddled. He had a brief resurgence in the late 90"s, Notching two 50+ goal seasons.

他曾經是聯盟中最頂尖的得分手，90年代初被Canucks（冰人隊）選中，94年總決賽中遺憾輸給巡遊者（Rangers）。巔峰賽季應該是93年吧，他打入60粒進球。不過在那之後，他的健康開始支離破碎。隨後的四五年中，他不斷受傷，不過在九十年代末期也有迴光返照，兩次打出單賽季50+進球的表現。

I definitely can"t say he was a bust, he put up pretty respectable numbers in his career, but, a fraction of what he could have done. In fact, I think he"s a pretty great parallel to make to D rose after doing all this yapping. Freakish one of a kind talents whose speed was too dank for their own body

他肯定說不上是水掉了，畢竟他的數據還是挺漂亮的，但「如果」不得不讓人遐想啊。說了這麼多，我其實就是覺得他跟羅斯挺相似的，天賦出眾但是速度太快以至於身體無法承受。

[–][ATL] Kyle Korverkkorver6 81 指標 5 天前

These highlights just hurt. Dude was unreal

這些集錦看著就挺傷的，羅斯簡直太魔幻了。

[–]SpursCharcole1 594 指標 5 天前

That is literally the fastest dribble move Ive ever seen

馬刺球迷：這真的是我看過的最快的運球。

[–]Celticsyaboyjiggleclay 145 指標 5 天前

If he doesn』t get hurt he』d have a couple of years of 30ppg in him. ??

凱爾特人球迷：如果沒受傷，羅斯肯定會有幾個賽季場均30+ ??。

[–][CHI] Cameron PayneCousin_SadBoy 143 指標 5 天前

If he flopped he probably could have averaged 30 in his mvp season. 6.9 FTAs is nothing considering how often he was driving into a crowded lane.

公牛球迷：如果羅斯多假摔一點，那他在那個MVP賽季絕對可以場均30分。想想他衝擊人堆的頻率你就知道場均6.9次罰球實在是太少了。

[–]Heatlanzaio 99 指標 5 天前

Watching his legs makes me think that his knee damage was just gradual until popping in that playoff game and it wasn"t just one play gone bad. He planted and completely changed directions so aggressively during his prime. He stops on a ridiculous angle on one leg at like a 30 degree angle to the floor. I just don"t think the human body is capable of dealing with that type of force and shear.

看著羅斯在這個動圖的腿，我就想他膝蓋的傷勢並不是突然出現的，絕對是漸積的過程，那場對陣76人的季後賽比賽就是壓死駱駝的最後一根稻草。巔峰時期的羅斯站穩再變向的變化太激烈了，他經常單腿以和地板呈30度角落地，這太誇張了。我覺得沒有誰的身體能承受這樣的力道/剪切力。

[–]nutsygenius 242 指標 5 天前

Similar one but with Andre Miller He"s just insane at "switching gears" and could go from 1 to 5 real quick

和晃倒米勒那球很像，羅斯就像搭載變速裝置，從1到5飛速變檔。

[–]PistonsSandmaster14 119 指標 5 天前

That goaltend saved Miller from being in a lot more highlight reels. Always wish he layed it up over that.

活塞球迷：隨後的干擾球救了米勒呀，不然得不斷做集錦背景。我一直在想這球要是進了就好了。

[–]e_a_blair 138 指標 5 天前

Wow just occurred to me Rose vs Andre Miller is the ultimate juxtaposition of career peak vs longevity. One was an explosive MVP now relegated to a role player. The other was never so much as considered for an all-star team but is 10th all-time in assists, up there with absolute legends.

Which career would you rather have?

哇，我才想到，羅斯VS米勒就是巔峰綻放VS細水長流的典型對比。一個是在巔峰期一騎絕塵拿下MVP，但最終淪落為角色球員。一個是職業生涯從未達到全明星高度，但在歷史助攻榜上位列第十，比肩聯盟傳奇球星。

所以你們大家更希望擁有誰的職業生涯喃？

[–]pantiessnatchers 98 指標 5 天前

The one where people will remember your name, be in discussions, and still have supporters sporting your gear 10/20/30 years down the line.

當然選擇在十年二十年，甚至三十年後還有人會記得你，討論你，支持你、還穿著你的球衣到處晃的那種啦。

[–][LAL] Ryan KellyDirknkobe 106 指標 5 天前

I disagree I"d rather have Rose"s career.

湖人球迷：我不同意，我更希望能有羅斯的職業生涯。??

[–]KingsReggieEvansTheKing 52 指標 5 天前

Andre Miller. Collect checks for a ton of seasons and be well regarded by my peers. Get to play a lot of basketball for many different teams and meet a lot of players. Can walk around in public and most people won"t recognize me. Healthy and smart.

國王球迷：我選米勒。一直打球掙錢還能贏得同僚尊重。在多支不同隊伍效力過，所以和許多球員都見過。而且在公共場合溜達也不會被很容易認出來。健康又聰明。

[–]HawksHouse_of_Borbon 50 指標 5 天前

Andre Miller』s. I wouldn』t want to have that feeling of 「what if」 for the rest of my life.

老鷹球迷：選米勒。我不希望自己餘生都在考慮「如果」的懊悔中度過。

[–][NYK] Damyean DotsonRasheediscool 738 指標 5 天前

MVP Rose > MVP Westbrook.

Don"t @ me

尼克斯球迷：MVP 羅斯 > MVP 威少

不接受反駁。

[–]HawksHouse_of_Borbon 48 指標 5 天前

What did Rose do that was better than Westbrook? Serious question.

老鷹球迷：認真求問，MVP賽季的羅斯哪裡做得比威少好？

[–]BullsBlockOfTheYear 153 指標 5 天前

I would say what stands out the most is the basketball IQ. But also ball handling and softer touch on layups and floaters. Its crazy when you think that Rose at 22 was comparable to Russ in his physical prime. Prime Rose would have been so sick.

公牛球迷：我覺得最明顯的是籃球智商吧。而且羅斯運球更好、上籃和拋投的手感也更加柔和。想一下的話，22歲的羅斯可以和巔峰威少媲美真的不可思議。如果羅斯後來能順利進入巔峰期，那絕對是禽獸啊。

[–]HawksHouse_of_Borbon 27 指標 5 天前

When I think of Rose, I don』t think of basketball IQ. I don』t really see how it』s any better than Westbrook』s for that matter. He was heavily criticized for taking lots of bad shots, much like Russell.

老贏球迷：但我覺得羅斯也不是以籃球智商出名的啊。我是看不出來羅斯的籃球智商怎麼就比威少強了。當初羅斯因為大量不合理出手沒少被批評吧，這和威少差不多啊。

[–]BullsBlockOfTheYear 163 指標 5 天前

Rose was not heavily criticized for taking bad shots. He didn"t do bonehead plays like shooting with time left on the clock when you are up in a tight game and stuff like that. And its not even about shot selection. He had better IQ cause he made winning plays instead of hunting for stats. Which is pretty obvious if you compare their respective MVP season. One of them had an historic individual season and the other one carried a team with no allstars to the best record in the league.

公牛球迷：（回復樓上）羅斯沒有因為不合理出手被各種開會啊。他沒有那種在比賽膠著而且進攻時間還剩很多的時候倉促出手之類的上頭操作。而且提到籃球智商不只是說出手選擇，之所以說羅斯籃球智商更高是因為他把贏球放在第一位而不是個人數據。比較他們代表性的MVP賽季你會發現這點體現的很明顯：威少打出了歷史級別的個人賽季，而羅斯則帶領平民陣容登上了聯盟第一的寶座。

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