25歲的阿里納斯已經榮譽累累，他生不逢時還是恰好處於最適合的時代？

運動 08-22

Gilbert Arenas was already a 3x All-Star and 3x All-NBA player at age 25

25歲的吉爾伯特-阿里納斯就已經三次入選全明星和最佳陣容了。

The injury he suffered that derailed his career came when he was 25, when Gerald Wallace fell on his leg which lead to an MCL tear.

He also won the Most Improved Player award in 2003 with the Warriors, after his sophomore year.

阿里納斯在25歲時遭遇了影響生涯的傷病——傑拉德-華萊士落地時壓在了他的腿上，導致他膝蓋內側韌帶撕裂。

2003年，效力於勇士剛剛打完第二個賽季的阿里納斯還榮膺進步最快球員獎。

Hibachi"s best season was 2005-06, where he averaged 29/3.5/6 with 2 steals per game.

If it wasn"t for his injuries, Gilbert would have had a Hall of Fame level career.

火缽

[譯註1]

的巔峰是2005-06賽季，他場均可以得到29+3.5+6，還有2個搶斷。

如果沒有傷病，阿里納斯本可以擁有一個名人堂級別的職業生涯。

[譯註1] Hibachi是阿里納斯巔峰時的口頭禪。本義是一種日式料理的炭燒火爐，阿里納斯把這當成口頭禪來描述自己的滾燙手感，每次投籃命中後，他都會大喊一聲Hibachi，這也成了他的一個綽號。

[–]NY08 684 指標 8小時前*

Anthony Davis is 5x All-Star, 3x All-NBA 1st Team, 3x Block Champ, and 3x All-Defensive at 25.

濃眉25歲時就已經入選過五次全明星、三次一陣了，還有三次聯盟蓋帽王、三次最佳防守陣容。

[–]0IiiiIIiiiIIiiiI0 318 指標 6小時前

Just for Comaprison Lebron was a 6x All Star, 2x MVP, 2x all defensive, 4x All NBA, 1st team, 2x All NBA, 2nd team.

Kobe was a 6x All Star 3x All NBA 1st team, 3x All NBA 2nd Team, 4x All Defesive 1st team 2x All defesive 2nd Team, 3x Champion

只是做一個對比：

25歲的詹姆斯已經是六屆全明星、兩屆MVP了，以及兩次最佳防守陣容、四次一陣兩次二陣；

25歲的科比是六屆全明星，有三次一陣三次二陣、四次一防兩次二防，以及三個總冠軍；

Magic was a 5x All Star 3x All NBA 1st Teams 2x All NBA 2nd Team 3x Champion 2x Finals MVP

Tim Duncan was 4x All Star, 5x All NBA 1st Team, 4x All NBA Defensive team, 1x All NBA defesive 2nd Team, MVP, Finals MVP, Champion.

25歲的「魔術師」約翰遜是五屆全明星，有三次一陣兩次二陣，三個總冠軍兩個FMVP；

25歲的鄧肯是四屆全明星，有五次一陣四次一防一次二防，一個MVP、一次總冠軍、一個FMVP。

I think these four Guys are probably the most accomplished 25 year olds in Modern NBA history.

我認為上面這四個傢伙應該是現代NBA最優秀的25歲球員。

[–]CelticsMarcusNotSmart 103 指標 6小時前

I can"t tell if Lebron or Duncan has the better resume Jesus

All of them are unbelievable

天吶，25歲的詹姆斯和鄧肯這履歷，誰更強還真說不好。

這四位的成就都是難以置信的。

[–]Rocketsharsh389 219 指標 5小時前

Duncan considering he went to college as well

鄧肯吧，考慮到他還上了大學呢。

[–]Trail BlazersBurnem34 50 指標 6小時前

why is everyone coming in saying what players accomplished more by 25? OP didnt say Gil would be GOAT-tier or anything, other players accomplishing more doesnt mean Arenas didnt have a spectacular early career before injuries

為什麼大家都在比誰在25歲時的成就更高？樓主也沒說阿里納斯本可以競爭歷史最佳什麼的啊，有人成就比阿里納斯更高，並不意味著阿里納斯大傷前的早期職業生涯不夠精彩吧？

[–]halarabob 123 指標 8小時前

Dropped 60 on Kobe too.

大將軍還在科比頭上砍過60分呢。

[–]Wizardsibwyeciundsv 78 指標 6小時前

Also extremely representative of his entire Wizards career.

Basically Arenas always played at a super high level and the Wizards enjoyed massive success every year he was here.

奇才球迷：這場比賽極致地代表了他整個奇才生涯。

總的來說，奇才時期的阿里納斯一直保持著極高的競技水平，有他在的每個賽季，奇才的戰績都非常不錯。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 22 指標 6小時前

Except in the playoffs

奇才球迷：除了季後賽。

[–]Wizardsibwyeciundsv 82 指標 6小時前

No I"m pretty sure we won the championship six years in a row with him

奇才球迷：誰說的，我咋記得阿里納斯時代的奇才拿過六連冠呢？??

[–]RaptorsChiefP21 140 指標 7小時前

Arenas and Brandon Roy will go down as 2 great players from the 2000s people will forget about.

阿里納斯和羅伊將會成為被人們遺忘的兩個千禧年第一個十年的優秀球員。

[–]SpursDestanio9357 41 指標 5小時前

Don"t forget about the Eddie Jones/Jason Richardson types. Those all-around, flashy, scoring dunkers seem to often get banned into the historical Phantom Zone.

Edit: Also, anyone remember Michael Redd? Guy was well legit for a handful of years.

別忘了埃迪-瓊斯、傑森-理查德森這樣的球員。這一類技術全面、花哨的得分型扣將在討論的時候經常被囚禁在歷史的幻影空間內。

PS：還有人記得邁克爾-里德嗎？他也是在聯盟叱吒多年的球星啊。

[–]Warriorsremembertosmile 37 指標 5小時前

Michael Redd was a baller too. Really only had 3 healthy seasons (03-06) where his numbers went up every year.

Then in 07 he was averaging 27 ppg when he got hurt and was never the same.

邁克爾-里德也是個狠角色，但他真正意義上只打了三個健康的賽季（03-06），這三年里他的數據一年比一年好。

到了2007年，他依然能場均得到27分，但是傷病襲來，便不復當年之勇。

[–]RaptorsChiefP21 8 指標 5小時前

Redd in his prime was close to an elite scorer. Even looks like Middleton.

巔峰里德算得上一名精英級得分手。長相跟米德爾頓也有點像。

[–]Pistonsdrcash360-2ndaccount 18 指標 4小時前

Michael Redd as the shit,I used to say the Pistons should have him over Rip because he could hit the three much better ( eighth grade mindset, I love Rip tho)

活塞球迷：里德真的狠，我曾經說過活塞應該運作里德過來，代替漢密爾頓，因為他的三分球能力強得多（那是我八年級時候的想法了，當然我也很喜歡漢密爾頓）。

[–]MyHonkyFriend 24 指標 7小時前

true Im sure theres 80s/90s equivalents I have no idea about because I didnt witness them like Arenas/Roy

你說得沒錯，我確信很多八十九十年代的優秀球員也不為我們所熟知，但我就不知道具體是誰了，因為我看過阿里納斯和羅伊打球但沒有見證過那些遠古球員的比賽。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliCameronman1329 38 指標 6小時前

Probably Bernard King is pretty close. Had some major injuries too, one which was said to be career ending but he managed to return. Missed 2 whole seasons with it but returned and still added another All Star game to his name and averaged over 20ppg for 4 more seasons then another injury basically ended it. The season where he got injured after 55 games he was on 32.9ppg. One of the forgotten greats and would』ve been much more without that injury

大概是伯納德-金吧。他也受過幾次大傷，其中一次本來是能導致生涯報銷的傷病，但是他最終成功重返賽場。這次傷病導致他缺席了整整兩個賽季，不過復出後仍然能入選全明星，並在接下來的四個賽季場均得到20分。隨後又一次傷病再次降臨，幾乎終結了他的職業生涯。有一年（1984-85賽季）他打了55場比賽後賽季報銷（膝蓋韌帶撕裂），在這55場比賽里他場均得到32.9分。伯納德-金是經常被遺忘的名宿之一，如果沒有那一次傷病，他的成就會更偉大。

[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingismylanguage 104 指標 8小時前

Def a wrong era guy. He would be better than Lillard in today"s league.

阿里納斯生錯了時代。在今天的聯盟里，他會是一名比利拉德更好的球員。

[–]RaptorsKawhiGotUsNow 140 指標 8小時前*

nah he was in the perfect era for his playing style lol

his shot selection and efficiency would be criticized a ton in todays nba. That"s why people say derozan would be appreciated more if he came up in the mid 2000s.

猛龍球迷：不不不，以他這種球風，他算是生在最完美的時代了哈哈哈。

在今天的NBA，他的投籃選擇和效率會遭到鋪天蓋地的批評。這也是人們都說

德羅贊放在2005年那會兒會更受歡迎的原因。

[–]LakersMiopTop 152 指標 8小時前

He dropped 29 PPG on 58 TS% in "06

That"s better than Lillard ...

湖人球迷：2006年，阿里納斯場均29分，真實命中率58%

的確比利拉德強……

[–]WizardsRPDC01 118 指標 8小時前

And 34 PPG on 59.7% TS in the playoffs.

奇才球迷：而且那年的季後賽大將軍場均34分，真實命中率59.7%

[–]CavaliersMeestermills 55 指標 7小時前