令各隊球迷群體最難以下咽的事實有哪些？來分享你的「大實話」

What are some hard pills to swallow for teams fan bases?

令各隊球迷群體最難以下咽的事實有哪些？

I』ll start, If the Celtics didn』t have Kyrie and Horford, and Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum were on a mid level eastern team they wouldn』t be considered a top 4 young core in the league.

我先來

1. 如果凱爾特人沒有得到歐文和霍弗德，杰倫-布朗和塔特姆是在一個中等水平的東部球隊打球的話，他倆就不會被認為是聯盟前四的核心年輕人了。

Even with the addition of Kawhi, Kyle Lowry』s inevitable decline will start as early as this season.

2. 儘管猛龍迎來了倫納德，但洛瑞難以避免的狀態下滑會在賽季初就顯露出來。

Unless Ayton can be an affective rim protector the Suns are going to be a perennial first round exit team.

Edit: I meant the suns in the future will be a perennial first round exit team. NOT this season.

3. 除非艾頓可以成為一個高陳工的護框手，否則太陽隊也就是一輪游的常客。

編輯：我想說的是太陽隊會在未來成為季後賽一輪游的常客，不是這個賽季哦。

What are some more hard pills to swallow?

還有什麼令各隊球迷難以下咽的事實嗎？

[–]HornetsTieguy87 537 指標 10小時前

We aint shit

黃蜂球迷：我們狗屁不是。

[–]HornetsFedUpWithThisWurld 199 指標 7小時前

Dem throwback jerseys and court tho

黃蜂球迷：不過……不過我蜂的復古球衣和球場還是可以的。

[–]HornetsTieguy87 45 指標 6小時前

So beautiful. Makes me want to cry

黃蜂球迷：太美了，美到落淚。

[–]rbuck8899 143 指標 9小時前

jordan hasnt made the hornets any better. and it doesnt look good for the future

我再給黃蜂球迷補個刀：喬丹沒有讓黃蜂隊有任何提升，黃蜂的未來並不可觀。

[–]Trail Blazerswearing_the_letter_O 492 指標 9小時前

The 2016 off-season ruined any chance at success during Lillard"s prime.

開拓者球迷：2016年的那個休賽期摧毀了利拉德在巔峰期取得成功的所有機會。

[–][WAS] Moses Maloneburnerfret 206 指標 9小時前

Hey, Wall"s too!

奇才球迷：沃爾含淚點贊。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 66 指標 5小時前

Wall breaking his hand in 2015 ruined our chance. We were up 2-1 on the Hawks and Kyrie and Love were both injured

奇才球迷：沃爾在2015年傷到了手，這毀掉了我們最好的機會。當時我們以2-1領先老鷹呢，而且歐文和樂福都傷了。

[–]knguyen21 161 指標 10小時前

Wizards: Ernie Grunfeld is and always will be your GM.

奇才球迷：那我也給我巫球迷同胞來一條吧：厄尼-格倫費爾德是並且將永遠是你主隊的總經理。

[–][WAS] Moses Maloneburnerfret 79 指標 10小時前

Oh, we are not at all in denial about this.

奇才球迷：哦這個啊，咱心裡都明鏡著呢，沒啥難以下咽的。

[–]ClippersMothershipConnection 171 標 10小時前

Clippers probably aren"t going to be an attractive free agent destination no matter what we do

快船球迷：不管我們做什麼，快船可能都永遠不會成為一個對自由球員有吸引力的地方。

[–]WildYams 99 指標 7小時前

I honestly think it would help significantly if the Clippers moved (at the very least into their own arena) and totally rebranded themselves. The Clipper brand is arguably the worst in sports and I"m frankly surprised Ballmer didn"t initiate a name change and new color scheme the minute he took over.

我真的覺得，如果快船搬走（至少要搬到自己的球館裡去）然後完全改頭換面，那肯定會有很大幫助。快船品牌可以說是體育界最差勁的了，鮑爾默竟然沒有在接手後立即提出更名或者更換配色，我真是大吃一驚。

[–][PHI] Eric Snowgustriandos 758 指標 10小時前

For sixers fans: Ben Simmons will likely never be able to shoot

76人球迷：給我費的球迷同胞來一劑苦藥：本-西蒙斯可能永遠練不出籃子了。

[–]76ersMcb3500 305 指標 9小時前

The blind optimism about this is nuts. People assume its so easy to just learn to shoot. Maybe if Ben was shooting with the right hand, had ever shot well at any level, and had any confidence in his shot he could learn. I just don"t see it.

76人球迷：對此的盲目樂觀主義簡直失了智。人們總以為練投籃是一件很簡單的事。也許，如果西蒙斯之前一直用右手投籃，如果他之前的投籃水平還勉強能看，如果他之前對自己的投籃有那麼一丟丟信心，那麼他還有可能練出投籃。但是我就是看不到這些跡象啊。

[–]CavaliersEnergizer100 370 指標 8小時前

He should pass to the basket

騎士球迷：西蒙斯可以直接把球傳進籃框呀！

[–]Cavaliers BandwagonPM_ME_UR_BEST_STORY_ 110 指標 6小時前

$10 says his first made three pointer will be intended as an alley oop

騎士球迷：我賭十塊，西蒙斯投進的第一個三分球一定是傳空接丟進去的。

[–]Knicks Bandwagontldr_MakeStuffUp 122 指標 8小時前

It"s not just for Simmons, this sub loves to add the caveat of "well when he adds a jumpshot, he"d be amazing" on anyone who a smidgen of talent and then throw out someone like Kawhi as an example.

這不僅是西蒙斯的問題，話題區就喜歡把「這個嘛，當他練出跳投，他就厲害啦！」這樣的標籤用在任何一位沒什麼投籃天賦的人身上，然後丟出一個「倫納德勤學苦練，終於練出投籃」的例子。

Chip Engelland or not, Kawhi is an extreme exception, not the norm. Not every player can just improve his jumper to 40% from three, or even make it a viable weapon. Not every player can be good or improve on every facet of the game. There are a lot more MKGs than there are Kawhi Leonards.

不管是不是奇普-恩格爾蘭德

[譯註1]

的原因，倫納德能開發出優秀的投籃就是個例外而不是常態。不是每個球員都能把三分練成一個可靠的武器，更別說提升到40%以上了。也不是每個球員都可以在比賽的每個方面都表現得很好或進步。NBA的麥基吉可比倫納德多了去了。

[譯註1]奇普-恩格爾蘭德是NBA資深的投籃教練，2005年7月至今擔任聖安東尼奧馬刺隊助理教練。

[–][DAL] Brian CardinalMasPatriot 110 指標 7小時前

There was that one post on this sub about how it took Blake Griffin tens of thousands of practice shots and years to become a respectable shooter and people think Simmons and Lonzo are gonna fix theirs in one offseason lmao

獨行俠球迷：我記得話題區有個帖子，講的是格里芬經過成百上千次的投籃訓練練了多年才練出還算體面的投射

[譯註2]

。結果竟然還有人認為西蒙斯和球哥僅用一個休賽期就能解決他們的投籃問題，笑死人。

[譯註2][美國JRs之聲]格里芬40萬次投籃終進化，美國球迷：西蒙斯應該學習格里芬>>

[–][PHI] Tiago SplitterIh8reposts 183 指標 10小時前

We haven"t drafted a guy who isn"t afraid to shoot outside the paint in 5 years....

76人球迷：我也來一條吧：我費已經連續五年沒有選到敢在禁區外投籃的球員了……

[–][TOR] DeMar DeRozanaugustineiver 232 指標 10小時前

I mean, you did. You just immediately traded him to the Suns tho

猛龍球迷：實際上你們選到過啊，只是你們立刻把他交易到太陽隊去了。

[–]NBAmeatboat2tunatown[??] 575 指標 10小時前

Sorry Cleveland fans, life just went back to normal for you.

克利夫蘭的球迷們不好意思，你們的生活又重歸普普通通了。

[–]WildYams 258 指標 8小時前

I really don"t think it"s hit even most people around here how irrelevant the Cavs now are. Everyone here is so used to talking about them endlessly that we"re not really ready for the reality that they"re going to be one of the least interesting franchises for the foreseeable future.

我覺得這裡的大部分JR還沒意識到現在的騎士隊有多麼沒存在感。大家都過於習慣無休無止地討論騎士隊，所以我們還沒有準備好迎接騎士隊將在可預見的未來成為最不受關注的幾個球隊之一。

They"re a bad team who will probably not have a 1st round pick next year and won"t have a max level cap slot next summer. There"s just nothing to really discuss with the Cavs for a while.

騎士是一個大概率明年得不到首輪簽的爛隊，並且在明年夏天沒有頂薪空間。確實未來很長一段時間，關於騎士都沒什麼好聊的了。

[–]NBAmeatboat2tunatown[??] 92 指標 8小時前

Yup...back to normal.

是啊……回到地面了。

[–][GSW] Klay ThompsonHelicase21 621 指標 10小時前

Rockets: your window was last year and you blew it.

勇士球迷：給火箭球迷來一個：你們的奪冠窗口就是去年，然而你們搞砸了。

[–]Lakerskhivar42 272 指標 8小時前

They know.

湖人球迷：他們清楚得很。

[–][OKC] Nick Collisonimafixwoofs 130 指標 9小時前

Chris Pauls body blew it.

雷霆球迷：是克里斯-保羅的身體搞砸了。

[–][BOS] Shaquille O"NealOneSpookySneakySquid 362 指標 7小時前

27 straight missed threes blew it.

凱爾特人球迷：是連續投丟27記三分球搞砸了。

[–][HOU] Metta World PeacesauceDrakula647 107 指標 4小時前

lol I have no idea what you"re talking about we just signed nba legend Carmelo Anthony who led the nuggets in an exhilarating conference finals against Kobe"s Lakers the 2013 rookie of the year Michael Carter-Williams and James Ennis who almost averaged 16 points in 2015 we are the powerhouse of the west and the southern equivalent to Warrior"s super team we"re in a goddamn window store

火箭球迷：哈哈哈哈我不知道樓上老哥們在說什麼，但是我們剛剛簽下了NBA傳奇安東尼，他曾經帶領掘金大戰科比的湖人，上演了一輪令人窒息的系列賽！我們還簽下了2013年的最佳新秀邁卡威，在2015年場均接近16分的詹姆斯-恩尼斯。我們就是西部的巨無霸，南部的勇士！我們特么的窗口都堆滿整個屋子了好吧！

哎………………

[–][DEN] Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 226 指標 10小時前

I love Giannis but he isn"t winning MVP this year because his team will not be a top 3 seed.

East will have Toronto, Boston, and Philly in some order and Milwaukee and Indiana are going to be fighting for the 4 seed.

You"re not going to win MVP by not finishing as a top seed. Russ was the exception, not the norm.

掘金球迷：我喜歡字母哥，但是今年他是得不到MVP的，因為雄鹿隊不會擠進東部前三。

屆時東部會有猛龍，凱爾特人和76人爭奪前三名，而雄鹿和步行者會為東部第四展開爭奪。

如果你的球隊不是東/西部戰績第一，你是拿不到MVP的。威少不代表常態，他的情況比較特殊。

[–]Lakerseddyjqt5 143 指標 10小時前

philly so overrated... not a top 3 team in the east. bucks better

湖人球迷：76人也太被高估了吧，他們不會是東部前三的。雄鹿可比76人強。

[–]Raptorsatrde 158 指標 8小時前

Everyone says they will be top 3 and every year they disappoint. Until they prove different you cannot say Milwaukee is better than Philly.

猛龍球迷：大家每年都說雄鹿將會排在前三，但是每年他們都會讓人失望。直到雄鹿證明自己，否則你不能說雄鹿比76人強。

[–]RaptorsPingedSpinxz 108 指標 10小時前

I doubt the suns are making the playoffs

猛龍球迷：我不覺得太陽隊能打進季後賽啊……

[–]NuggetsEricStoltz-MaskMorty 241 指標 10小時前*

People think the Suns are going to make the playoffs?

掘金球迷：什麼？人們居然認為太陽能進季後賽？

[–]NBAmeatboat2tunatown[??] 123 指標 10小時前

Sorry Lakers fans, you ain"t getting to the WC Finals.

湖人球迷對不起啦，你們是打不進西決的。

[–][LAL] Didier Ilunga-Mbengahonditar[??] 176 指標 10小時前

That pill is 2EZ to swallow

Try missing the playoffs

湖人球迷：打不進西決這個事實也太好接受了吧，

你可以試試「你湖打不進季後賽」。

[–]NBAmeatboat2tunatown[??] 236 指標 10小時前

Sorry Spurs fans, it"s over.

馬刺球迷對不起啦，你們的時代結束啦。

[–]NuggetsEricStoltz-MaskMorty 160 指標 10小時前

I"ve been saying that for years about the Spurs and then something always happens and they are in the hunt, so until they actually miss the playoffs for a year or two I will reserve judgement.

掘金球迷：樓上說的話我都說了好幾年了，但是每次都會發生一些神奇的事，接著馬刺就開始大殺四方了，所以在馬刺真正缺席季後賽一兩年之前，我還是保留我的觀點吧。

[–]Spursonamonapizza 77 指標 8小時前

For Spurs fan: Our era is definitely in its twilight.

Tim gone. Tony gone. Probably Manu"s last year. Pop will likely be right behind him in 2020.

馬刺球迷：給我刺球迷來一個：我們的時代走到尾聲了。

鄧肯走了，帕克離開了，馬努明年可能也要退役了，波波維奇可能緊隨馬努在2020年離開吧。

Aldridge is only a couple years from being old, and it remains to be seen how the team will gel around Derozan.

We have some young talent in the feeder, but they sure as hell aren"t Tim, Tony, and Manu.

阿爾德里奇距離衰老也就那麼幾年時間了，球隊如何圍繞德羅贊磨合還是有待觀察。

我們有一些有天賦的年輕人正在成長，但是他們絕壁比不上GDP組合啊。

We may still be competitive, but our days of vying for championships are probably gone for a long while. Still, no complaints...it"s been a good run.

我們或許還能保持競爭力，但是我們爭冠的日子可能已經過去很久了。不過嘛，沒什麼可抱怨的……因為這麼一路走來已經很不錯了。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookFukaro 79 指標 10小時前

It"s going to be interesting if some of these narratives changes. Dirk was considered a choker until he won a ring. I know that"s not the norm but it"s gonna be cool to see who does it next.

雷霆球迷：如果這個帖子的一些輿論觀點在後來有了變化就有意思啦。德克之前一直被認為是個掉鏈子貨，直到奪冠才打破這個標籤。我知道這種事不常發生，但是我想知道下一個做到這一點的球員是誰。

[–]PistonsASpartanLeopard 290 指標 6小時前

This thread just proves that Pistons are so mediocre and irrelevant they aren"t even worth mentioning

活塞球迷：這個帖子只是證明了活塞有多麼普通和沒存在感……大家連提都懶得提了。

[–]PistonsSoapOperaHero 30 指標 5小時前

I mean, people were groaning when the Pistons went to a second Finals gunning to repeat. You think they wanna talk about us now that the most relevance we"ve seen the past 10 years has been from Chauncey landing a job in the booth or Big Ben and Sheed touring China?

活塞球迷：這個嘛，在活塞第二次打進總決賽志在衛冕的時候，大家就已經怨天尤人很不爽了。過去這十年里，活塞最有存在感的時候無非是昌西-比盧普斯找到了解說員的工作或者雙華萊士來中國遊玩，所以你覺得大傢伙願意討論我們么？

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