老了！美國球迷熱議巔峰吉諾比利有多妖|05年FMVP當屬妖刀？

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老了！美國球迷熱議巔峰吉諾比利有多妖|05年FMVP當屬妖刀？

How good was Prime Manu Ginobli?

巔峰吉諾比利有多強？

How good was Ginobli in his prime? How was his shot creation for himself and others? Defense?

巔峰妖刀到底多牛B？他的投籃創造力在聯盟什麼水平？還有防守呢？

[–][SAS] Manu Ginobilitovenshine 135 指標 1 天前

you know when it"s cold out, and you"re doing a load of laundry. Then it"s done and you snag some socks fresh out the dryer and you feel toasty and all good inside - like your problems really ain"t shit?

prime manu made you feel like that

刺蜜：想想天冷的時候，你在洗好多好多的衣服。洗好之後，從烘乾機里拿出幾隻襪子，襪子蓬鬆又清香，裡面也很舒服-讓你覺得你所有的問題都不是事。

巔峰馬努就能讓你有這種感覺。

[–]Thunderandyweir 198 指標 1 天前

Man I"m not even old but damn this kinda make me feel old

老哥我還沒老呢，尼瑪這個問題讓我覺得自己上年紀了都。

[–]Spurslarviben 9 指標 20小時前

I member, Manu had a full head of beautiful flowing locks....

我還記得馬努曾經也長發飄飄過。

[–]Spurschriscucumber 5 指標 18小時前

And he was unstoppable, he had the 3, he had the euro that no one could defend, and he was FAST. Incredibly smart too.

沒人能阻擋他，有一手三分，有一手沒人防得了的歐洲步，同時速度又很快，球商又非常的高。

[–]PistonssubMJM 5 指標 15小時前*

And he could pass!

別忘了他還會傳球啊。

[–]GeneralsROB_CASH 103 指標 1 天前

that is how time works, yes

時間就是這樣啊。

[–]Spursthepop 95 指標 1 天前

How was his shot creation for himself and others?

那他的投籃創造力到底是什麼水平？

[–]Omniblink 82 指標 1 天前

His prime is easily a top 10 SG ever. Fantastic leaper, every shot in the book, clutch, a killer competitively, unique vision and passing, with a brilliant basketball mind. That said, he was not known for his man-to-man defense but was a more than able team-defender.

巔峰馬努鬆鬆歷史前十分位。強大的彈跳，各種得分方式，關鍵球，殺手的競爭心，獨特的視野和傳球方式，再配上一個無敵的籃球大腦。不光這些，防守上他雖然不是以一盯一的防守能力出名的，但是他也絕對不僅僅只是一個只活在球隊防守體系里的球員。

[–]Raptorsdreamex 91 指標 1 天前

[–]gnartard101 7 指標 15小時前

His greatest achievement. Can"t wait until he rubs it in at the HoF induction.

這是他最偉大的成就。迫不及待的想看他在名人堂評選的時候把這個榮譽甩到大家臉上。

[–]WarriorsMagicWade 26 指標 1 天前

The best way to describe it is a lefty magician,he could flashy pass like a beast, super athletic, shooting wasn"t too bad but his lucky he had a great coach who accepted that artists need to be free and make mistakes to be the best they can be

最好的描述應該是稱他為，左手膜術師。他可以搞一些讓人眼前一亮的傳球，超強的運動能力，投籃也不糟糕，但他也很幸運遇到了一個偉大的教練，這個教練允許隊里的藝術家自由發揮，允許他們犯錯，幫助他們達到自己能力的巔峰。

[–]Spurspsau66 22 指標 1 天前

You should"ve seen that coach during Ginobili"s first year though. I swear Pop"s hair turned full on gray that year.

但你確實該看看吉諾比利新秀年時候你說的那個教練。我發誓就那一年，波波的頭髮全變白了。

[–]Spursgaxkang 3 指標 17小時前

The way he could slip between 2 defenders was a thing of beauty.

他從兩個防守人中間溜過去那招簡直絕了。

[–]Spursjflowers321 17 指標 1 天前

Advanced stats arnt everything, but in his prime he consitently ranked amongst the elite nba players in alot of the most important stats like WS/48 min, BPM, VORP, etc. He could do anything on the court and had no problem doing it off the bench. Facilitator, scorer, spot up shooter, defender, floor general, you name it he could do it and do it well. He was ridiculously crafty and made all the hustle plays. He didn"t care about stats or playing time, he just wanted to win. He truly was one of a kind.

高階數據不能說明一切。但他巔峰時候的很多重要數據幾乎在NBA所有精英球員之前，比如說48分鐘的勝利貢獻值，正負值，球員可替換值等等，他在場上無所不能，哪怕替補登場也能做出同樣的貢獻。持球手，得分手，定點射手，防守尖刀，球場領袖，你能說的出，他就能做的好。他手活非常棒，打球也很努力，他一點都不在乎數據或者是上場時間，就是單純的想贏。他真的獨成一派。

[–]SpursQeheen 14 指標 1 天前

Manu was like this whenever big games occured and damn he was one of our most clutchest players in the playoffs. He was the true MVP of the 05 finals

吉諾比利基本每次重要的比賽都能拿出這樣的表現，他一定是那個時候季後賽里關鍵球最穩的球員之一。他才是2005年決賽里真正的MVP

[–]DottsBaller5 15 指標 1 天前

In 2005 during the finals he was as good as anybody on Earth

2005年決賽里的他不虛這個地球上的任何人。

[–]SpursLucasMardukas 1 指標 8小時前

This is an overlooked point, Tim won FMVP over Ginobli by a single vote, and Timmy had a strong series despite banging with Detroits front court

這就吹過了。鄧肯當時以一票壓過馬努拿了FMVP，他在跟活塞前場肉搏的情況下還是打出了一個強勢的系列賽。

[–][SAS] Kawhi LeonardHitEmWTheIndubitably 24 指標 1 天前

3rd best shooting guard in his generation after Kobe and Wade. We never got to see him have a team to himself like those two guys so it"s hard to say. But I would have him above Ray Allen.

他是那代球員里第三棒的得分後衛，僅次於科比和韋德。我們沒能看到他單獨帶隊的時候，其他兩個都單獨帶過，所以也不是很好比較。但我覺得他比雷阿倫厲害的。

–]Netsaydee123 5 指標 1 天前

If he was a 35 mpg starter and primary facilitator/scoring option on his team (like what James Harden is, basically), I think that he could have averaged at least something like 22-5-7-1 with good shooting percentages and solid defense for the entirety of his prime.

如果他是個場均上場35分鐘的首發球員的話，同時也是球隊首席持球人或者第一得分選擇（ 就比如哈登那樣的，差不多），我覺的那樣他就可以場均最少拿到22+5+7+1的數據，同時投籃命中率也很不錯，巔峰馬努的防守也是非常穩的。

[–][DET] Ben Wallacesalmon10 5 指標 1 天前

Goddamn Ginobili. We had Game 7 till he went off.

活塞球迷：去他NN的吉諾比利，他暴走前我們本來就要拿下第七場了。

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