當代籃板巨獸！上古時代後竟再無人比魔獸更能搶板

運動 04-11

美國JRS之聲

Excluding players from the 60"s, nobody in NBA history has more rebounds through first 13 seasons than Dwight Howard. (self.nba)

除了60年代的球員外，沒有任何NBA球員在他的前13個賽季中搶下比德懷特-霍華德更多的籃板。

Alternate headline: Dwight has more boards in first 13 seasons than anyone since Kareem"s first 13 seasons.

另外一個說法：在賈巴爾生涯的前13個賽季結束後，沒有任何球員在他們生涯的前13個賽季里比霍華德搶下更多的籃板。

[–]Pelicans314x1e 481 指標 1 天前

HOF 1st Ballot

他肯定第一次參選就能入選名人堂。

[–]WarriorsSharksFanAbroad[S] 303 指標 1 天前

Literally not even debatable.

事實上這都不是個問題。

[–]Pelicans314x1e 190 指標 1 天前

You"d be surprised by some people on this sub, and even a few ignorant articles...

但是你會被論壇里的一些人的觀點所嚇到，甚至一些無知的文章也說他進不了...

[–]WarriorsSharksFanAbroad[S] 133 指標 1 天前

Haha, that one the other day that listed Bosh as borderline?

哈哈，是之前那篇說波什處在名人堂邊緣的文章嗎？

[–][UTA] Joe InglesNitroXYZ 163 指標 1 天前

Yes. That article had a section for Dwight and all it said was;

"Hahahaha. No."

是，那邊文章有一章節是專門寫霍華德，我總結一下就是說；

「哈哈哈哈哈，他不可能入選的。」

[–]Spursking_of_the_pygmies 6 指標 3 天前

Seriously? Howard is more of a lock than Bosh, or even Manu.

真的嗎？霍華德相比波什來說入選名人堂應該更穩把，甚至比吉諾比利都穩。

[–][GSW] Baron Davisobvious_bot 7 指標 3 天前

or even Manu

I was with you until then

甚至比吉諾比利都穩？

在你說這句話之前我都同意你。

[–]Spursking_of_the_pygmies 5 指標 3 天前

it"s true though, and not tryna diss my boy Manu. Both have Olympic/FIBA golds, but Ginobili is not an 8x All-Star 3x DPOY.

刺蜜：但是事實確實是這樣，並不是想貶低我的大兄弟馬努。他倆都有奧運會/國際籃聯的金牌，而吉諾比利可沒有8次入選全明星以及三連DPOY。

[–]BullsCudder_Buddy 12 指標 3 天前

Ginobili"s gold medal with Argentina is more valuable than any USA Gold medal.

吉諾比利在阿根廷國家隊拿到的奧運金牌比美國隊拿到的任何一枚金牌都更有價值。

[–]SupersonicsMrCrushus 2 指標 2 天前

But its not be more valuable than having a gold medal for USA plus also 8x all star, 5x First team All NBA and 3x DPOY

但是也比不上一枚美國國家隊的金牌外加8屆全明星，5次一陣和3座DPOY了。

[–][CHI] Derrick Roseaewilson95 18 指標 3 天前

Even if you ignore literally every other accolade, the fact that Dwight was DPOY three years in a row puts him in the Hall

就算你忽略他所有其他的榮譽，單單三連DPOY這一項成就，就足夠讓他進入名人堂了。

[–]WarriorsMacDerfus 25 指標 19小時前*

What did he do other than lead a team to the finals and be the greatest rebounder since Kareem?

Edit: most prolific rebounder, I meant to say.

除了把一支球隊帶進總決賽，以及是賈巴爾後最偉大的籃板手外，他還做了什麼？

註：我想說的是，最多產的籃板手。

[–]Lakersi_am_penis 40 指標 19小時前

Multiple DPOYs and first team selections. You know, scrub things like that.

還有多次獲得DPOY以及入選第一陣容，你知道的，類似這樣的不起眼的成就吧。

[–]prof_talc 4 指標 3 天前

Rodman is arguably better than either of them. Dwight is a first-ballot lock for sure tho

單說籃板，羅德曼顯然比他倆都強，但是霍華德肯定是首選名人堂成員的。

[–]Warriorsoarabbus 8 指標 3 天前

At rebounding, it"s not even close. Rodman is the GOAT.

單從搶籃板這一項來說，羅德曼就是歷史上最偉大的籃板手，其他人都跟他差遠了。

[–][PHI] Dario SaricFun-Times 36 指標 3 天前

People on this subreddit overestimate what it takes to get into the HOF. Dwight is a hall of famer. No doubt.

論壇里的人們高估了入選名人堂的標準。霍華德肯定是名人堂成員，毫無疑問的。

[–]Raptorstyronewatermelon 44 指標 3 天前

I feel like it"s more that they don"t know about the prime years, Dwight especially because of his injuries the last few seasons.

我感覺他們更像是沒有看過他的巔峰時期，霍華德最近幾個賽季受傷病的影響非常大。

[–]Knickstommy_the_tit 9 指標 3 天前

I"m so surprised that people don"t remember how good Dwight is. Orlando was just half a decade ago, and even then it wasn"t long since Dwight dropped 28/15 per game on Lamarcus Aldridge while Harden choked the Blazers series away.

我非常吃驚現在的人們都已經不記得當年的霍華德有多厲害了，那支魔術也才僅僅過去了5年啊，就算是在那之後，霍華德在季後賽對陣阿爾德里奇時場均砍下28/15的表現離我們也不遠啊，只是當時哈登表現低迷，火箭才輸掉了那輪系列賽。

[–]SunsSportsMasterGeneral 18 指標 3 天前

He"s a frustrating individual, but he"s a legendary player

作為一個成年人，他令人沮喪，但是他是個傳奇的球員。

[–]Lakersgumarik 163 指標 1 天前

2008-2011 Howard was a real force in the NBA, and his per is really good this year come playoff time he will be a factor some teams will find hard to deal with. If they play Boston (2-7) in the first round their rebounding problems will surface and he will out muscle Al Horford and contest and disturb IT to a degree.

2008-2011年的霍華德是聯盟里一股非常強大的勢力，就算今年他的效率值仍然不錯，當季後賽來臨時，他會成為一些球隊難以應對的因素。如果老鷹今年首輪對陣凱爾特人的話（2-7），後者的籃板問題就會顯現出來，他會讓霍福德吃盡苦頭，並對小托馬斯對籃筐的攻擊產生一些干擾。

[–]RocketsNietzsche_Darko 91 指標 1 天前

That"s what I"m hoping for. I"d love the return of vintage Dwight.

火蜜：這就是我所期望的，我喜歡看到那個最佳火花的回歸。

[–]KnicksISHLDPROBABLYBWRKING 8 指標 16小時前

remember when teams had to have guys just for Dwight? If you didnt have a Bynum or Perkins type guy you were done.

還記得當時每支球隊都配置了專門應對霍華德的球員嗎？如果你的陣中沒有像拜納姆或者帕金斯這種類型的內線的話，你就完蛋了。

[–]New Jersey NetsDarnellisFromMars 4 指標 3 天前

Seriously, every playoff team in the East would scramble for a big to try and contain Dwight. Other wise he was gonna drop 28/15 on you and force you into foul trouble.

IIRC the Cavs picked up Shaq for the sole purpose of matching up with Dwight come playoff time.

確實是這樣，當時每支東部的季後賽球隊都在為了對抗霍華德而囤積大個子。不然的話他就會在你頭上砍下28/15並讓你們陷入犯規麻煩。

如果我沒記錯的話，當年騎士簽下沙克就是專門為了在季後賽里應對霍華德的。

[–]Trail Blazersmm825 3 指標 3 天前

I"d say from 07 to 2013 he was the best center in the league. Shaq fell off, staring in 07 Dwight led the league in defensive win shares, 20/14 as the best defensive center. Multiple DPOY, dragging a magic team past lebron in his freaking prime.

我會說07-2013年中他都是聯盟里最強的中鋒，沙克下滑嚴重，從07年開始霍華德就在防守勝利貢獻值上領先全聯盟，場均20/14同時也是防守端最強力的中鋒。多座DPOY獎盃，並帶領魔術隊跨過了巔峰的勒布朗。

[–][UTA] Joe InglesNitroXYZ 121 指標 1 天前

Under Appreciated

不被充分賞識的。

[–][BOS] Evan TurnerBroodingDecepticon 21 指標 19小時前

Undisputed best player at his position for ~5 years. That"s truly special.

曾經5年里都是他這個位置上毫無爭議最好的球員，這非常特別。

[–]CelticsMexter-Dorgan 58 指標 23 小時前

If his career of appreciation were a line graph, it"d be like looking at the stock market from June 1929 - October 1929

如果把在整個生涯中人們對於他的喜愛程度做成曲線圖的話，形狀就好像1929年6月到10月股票市場的價格。

[–]Celticsdackots 28 指標 22小時前

Dwight is gonna end this season within 1000 rebounds of Shaq"s entire 19-year career, in 250 fewer games. Dwight has had six 1000+ rebound seasons, as well as two other seasons with 900+ rebounds. He"s within 500 of Barkley and has already passed David Robinson and Patrick Ewing in fewer games.

這個賽季結束後，霍華德離沙克整個生涯19個賽季里所搶的總籃板數便只有不到1000個的差距了，少打了250場比賽。霍華德有6個籃板數達到1000+的賽季，另外還有兩個900+的賽季。他現在離巴克利的總籃板數只差不到500個了，在未來的幾場比賽里，他就已經能超過大衛-羅賓遜和帕特里克-尤因了。

[–]JazzCouragesand 18 指標 1 天前

He"s still a walking double double as well

他現在仍然是個行走的兩雙機器。

[–][PHI] Allen IversonJeeReG 13 指標 3 天前

The young fan base

年輕的球迷基數呀。

[–]SpursLone_Star_122 4 指標 3 天前

I always forget about this. There are probably a lot of college aged kids on here that are like 20 right now. When he was at his peak around 2010ish they were 13 years old and probably not paying that much of attention. He really went down hill after Orlando.

我總是忘記了這點，論壇里有很多大學生大概就只有20歲吧。在霍華德達到巔峰的2010年里，他們只有13歲左右，可能當時對NBA並沒有現在這麼感興趣吧。但是自從離開魔術後，他真的經歷了急劇的下滑。

[–]Rocketsemd9629 6 指標 3 天前

I was at the peak of my NBA fandom at 13

在13歲時，我對NBA的著迷程度達到了巔峰。

[–]Supersonicsseeker_of_knowledge 1 指標 3 天前

Same lol, i was paying tons of attention. I loved the Yao-Howard rivalry fpr best center.

我也是，哈哈哈，當時我對NBA非常的關注。我喜歡姚明-霍華德之間關於最佳中鋒的競爭。

[–]Celticsccvssd 2 指標 3 天前

Can confirm. Am 19, mostly remember Rockets/Lakers Dwight.

能夠確認這一點，我現在19歲，幾乎只記得火箭/湖人時期的霍華德。

[–]Knickstommy_the_tit 1 指標 3 天前

but he was a beast with the Rockets for some time. Remember the Portland series where he averaged 28/15?