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下滑?庫里悄悄打出史詩級高效賽季!場均25+7,正負值聯盟第一!


Despite the narrative, Steph Curry has had a historically great season this year! (self.nba)


儘管今年的劇本不太屬於史蒂芬-庫里,但他仍然打出了一個歷史級別偉大的賽季!

下滑?庫里悄悄打出史詩級高效賽季!


Curry is averaging 25 points, 7 assists, and 5 rebounds per game while only playing 34 minutes per game! He also has 1.8 steals per game.


His shooting splits are 47/41/90 whilst shooting 313 threes this season (2nd most in NBA history!).


313 threes on 41% shooting is considered historically great for anyone that isn t named Steph Curry.


He is also on pace to lead his team to 68 wins (which is tied for the 4th best record in NBA history!).


Curry also leads the NBA in +/- by a lot!. His +/- this season is +979! For comparison, Lebron has a +/- of +483 and Harden has a +/- of +433.


庫里場均25分,7助攻,5籃板,並且場均上場時間只有34分鐘!另外他場均還有1.8次搶斷。


他的投籃命中率達到了47/41/90,同時本賽季命中了313記三分(在NBA歷史上排名第二)。


以41%的命中率投進313記三分對任何一個不叫「史蒂芬-庫里」的球員來說都是歷史級別偉大的表現。


同時他也正在帶領球隊取得68勝(追平NBA歷史上第四棒的常規賽勝場記錄)。

庫里的正負值也遠遠領先於聯盟中的其他人!這賽季他的正負值一共為+979!相對比一下,勒布朗的正負值為+483,哈登的這一數據為+433。

下滑?庫里悄悄打出史詩級高效賽季!



[–]MYNEWACCOUNT300 1101 指標 23小時前


Curry is still really good. The addition of Durant just meant his stats would go down a little bit.


庫里仍然非常棒,但是杜蘭特的加入便意味著他的數據肯定會發生一些下滑。


[–]Heataggressive_serve 423 指標 22小時前


If Durant had gone to some other team like Boston, Curry would very likely be right up there with Westbrook and Harden in the MVP discussion. As would Durant, without the injury, lol.


如果杜蘭特去了別的球隊,比如凱爾特人,庫里很有可能會和維斯布魯克,哈登一起進入MVP的討論範圍,杜蘭特同樣會進入,只要他不受傷的話。


[–]WarriorsZlasher 108 指標 18小時前

If he were averaging like 30/7/4 the fact that his team would have 20+ more wins would definitely put him in the conversation.


But don t think he d win it.


如果他仍然能夠場均30/7/4,外加勇士比其他球隊多出20+勝場的事實,這些絕對會讓他進入MVP的討論範圍中。


但是我不認為今年他會贏。


[–]Warriorsalex_3799 125 指標 18小時前


He probably wouldn t win it because he s won it twice back to back already.


他很可能不會贏,因為他已經二連過MVP了。


[–]SpursSS_Downboat 67 指標 15小時前


Well, winning doesn t matter for MVP anymore. Only having bad teammates does.


現在贏球對於MVP來說已經不重要了,只是比誰的隊友更糟糕。

[–][MEM] Acie Lawimatthewhitecastle 59 指標 13小時前


feel so bad for harden:


2015: "well yeah harden has the better numbers, but curry won more games!"


2017: "well yeah harden won more games, but westbrook has a triple double!"


真的為哈登感到遺憾:


2015:「是的,哈登的數據更棒啊,但是庫里贏得的比賽更多!」


2017:「是啊,哈登贏下的比賽更多,但是威少場均三雙啊!」


[–]Rocketskarjacker 35 指標 21小時前


Honestly he d probably win it again. The warriors would probably still be a 60+ win team and that kind of win disparity would be hard to ignore. But voter fatigue is a thing.


老實講他很有可能再次拿到MVP,就算KD不加盟他們,勇士很可能還是一支勝場60+的隊伍,這種級別的勝場差就很難被忽略了。但是審美疲勞肯定也會佔很大的比重。

[–]Mdgt_Pope 28 指標 21小時前


Eh, that extended shooting slump he had while Harden and WB were surging would have probably kept him below them.


額,但是這賽季里他長期的投籃下滑,與哈登和威少的兇猛衝擊相比,很可能會讓他落後於這哥倆。


[–]Lakersmsnwong 141 指標 21小時前


Never know, maybe Curry has a crazier season due to losing last year. We can t say if he will have a slump or not because no KD changes the whole status quo


誰也不知道會發生什麼,也許因為去年的失利,今年的庫里會更加瘋狂。我們現在根本無法說他究竟會不會發生下滑,因為如果KD不加盟他們,整個現狀都會發生改變。


[–]PelicansGood_NewsEveryone 418 指標 23小時前


313 threes on 41% shooting is considered historically great for anyone that isn t named Steph Curry.


I think that s your key. Its all relative.


Maybe he should just change his name though.

以41%的命中率投進313記三分對於任何一個不叫「史蒂芬-庫里」的人來說都是歷史級別的表現了。


我覺得這就是你問題的核心,所有事情都是相對的。


不過也許他只是應該改一改自己的名字。


[–]Celticsswiftsepitaph 182 指標 22小時前


lol it s the lowest 3 point shooting percentage of his career, second to him shooting 42.4% in 2014.


this man is absurd.


哈哈哈,但這卻是他生涯中三分命中率最低的一年,僅僅次於2014年的42.4%。


這傢伙簡直不可思議。


[–]WarriorsHITMAN616 121 指標 20小時前*


He was also shooting below 40% after the slump when KD went down. But he s been shooting an absurd like 49% in the Toaster Era

Edit: Just did the math, it s actually 47.8% in the Toaster Era (64/134 in the last 14 games).


就算在KD受傷後,他的三分命中率仍然在40%以下低迷了一段時間。但是自從「烤麵包機簽名」事件發生後,他就投出了荒謬的49%的三分命中率。


註:剛剛仔細算了以下,在「烤麵包機簽名」事件期間,他的三分命中率實際上達到了47.8%(在最近14場比賽里134投64中)。


[–]Warriorsthewayoftoday 62 指標 19小時前


When Klay signed that toaster, everyone got toasted


自打克萊在那個麵包機上簽名後,每個人的手感好像都被烤熟了。


[–]FakeHotlineLife 254 指標 23小時前


Imho you should have also noticed that the top-5 players in the +/- list are Dubs players: Steph (979), Draymond (833),Klay(790),KD(675),Iguodala(529). The team effort is undoubtedly essential here, but still, Steph outscores even Draymond by 166 - that s huge.


恕我直言,你應該也意識到正負值榜單排名前五的都是勇士的球員:庫里(979),格林(833),克萊(790),KD(675),伊戈達拉(529)。團隊的努力毫無疑問是不可或缺的,但是不管怎麼說,庫里比排名第二的格林也高了166——這是非常大的差距了。


[–]randomrustplayer1 91 指標 22小時前

Highest +- in 2013 ... before his MVP season. Can anyone explain that?


但是他最高的正負值卻在2013...在他的MVP賽季之前,有誰能夠解釋一下嗎?


[–]WarriorsInfernoBA 171 指標 22小時前


Steph was and still is the engine of the team.


因為那時候庫里還是球隊的引擎,雖然現在也仍然是。


[–]MagicKetoPeto 14 指標 21小時前


Javale McGee is leading the league in +/- per 36 minutes (15.1)


然而麥基的每36分鐘正負值卻是聯盟第一(15.1)。


[–]WizardsFuckingshitstupid 25 指標 22小時前


+/- is kind of useless for this kind of thing, especially for superstars. The whole point of the stat getting popular was to showcase guys like Shane Battier or Mbah a Moute this year whose teams play really well when they re on the floor, even though they don t fill up the stat sheet.

在這種情況下正負值實際上沒什麼用,尤其是對於超級球星來說。這個數據開始受到歡迎是因為它展示了像巴蒂爾和今年的巴莫特這種類型球員的價值,當他們在場上時,整支球隊都打得非常不錯,儘管他們本身的數據並不出眾。


[–]Warriorsdjfivenine11 143 指標 22小時前*


He is having a pretty identical season to his 2014-2015 MVP season, including total team wins.


他正在打出和2014-15MVP賽季非常類似的表現,就連球隊總勝場都差不多。


[–]Warriorskevindlv 78 指標 21小時前


MVP is relative to the rest of the league, though. He played 59 games alongside another superstar who was basically having an even better season than him, and there are two other guys dragging teams of scrubs into the playoffs on historically high volume.


但是MVP對於聯盟來說是個相對的獎項,今年庫里有59場比賽都是和另外一個超級球星一起打得,而且後者本質上可以說打出了一個比庫里更棒的賽季。但同時聯盟里還有另外兩個傢伙把一群弱雞隊友帶進了季後賽,並都打出了歷史級別的表現。


[–]Warriorsdjfivenine11 56 指標 21小時前


Not saying he deserves the MVP this season. Just reinforcing OP s claim that this is absolutely not a down year for Steph.


並不是說他這賽季值得拿下MVP,只是為了力挺樓主的觀點,今年絕對不是庫里下滑的一年。


[–]LakersChaotic-Catastrophe 19 指標 17小時前


After last year, every year from here on out will be considered a down year for Steph. Unless he hits 403 threes and wins 74 games.


從上賽季結束後,往後的每一年都會被看成是庫里下滑的一年。除非他投進了403記三分,拿下了74場勝利。


[–]SerDizzy 96 指標 23小時前


That 313 is the most insane thing about it, my man might hit 400 again in the near future


313記三分是最騷的,我的大兄弟可能在未來還能再次命中400記三分。


[–]ThunderYodudewhatsupmanbruh 76 指標 23小時前


If Lebron averaged 22/6/6 next season it would still be a really good season for 90% of the league but not for Lebron. Starplayers have different expectations and when you come off (arguably) the greatest offensive season ever you tend to get absurd expectations. He s having the second best year of his career but it just seems like a down year due to just how great he was last year.


如果勒布朗下賽季場均22/6/6了,雖然這對於聯盟里90%的球員來說都是非常完美的表現,但是對於他卻不是。球星們都背負著與普通人不一樣的期望,尤其是當你在進攻端剛剛打出了歷史上最偉大的一個賽季後,你肯定會得到更加高得離譜的期望。庫里正在打出職業生涯中第二好的賽季,但是看上去對於他來說這卻是下滑的一年,只是因為他去年是多麼的棒。


[–]randomrustplayer1 50 指標 23小時前


If he won 66 games with the highest +- , 33 minutes a game, and solid shooting percentages, then people would still treat it as an amazing season


但是如果他仍然帶隊取得了66勝,加上最高的正負值,場均33分鐘,然後投籃命中率很不錯的話,人們仍然會覺得這個賽季對他來說還是非常棒的。


[–][WAS] John Walllivefreeordont 29 指標 22小時前


If he added KD to his team? Probably not


但是如果這支球隊增加了KD呢?也許人們就不這麼看了吧


[–]NBAherecomesthepolice 39 指標 21小時前


Warriors players can t really put up great stats since they mostly play just 3 quarter games.


勇士的球員很難取得非常不可思議的數據,因為他們總是三節就打卡下班了。


[–]RocketsAskYouEverything 2 指標 7小時前


Bad narrative. Westbrook s only played 1.3 more minutes a game this season


這就是瞎說了,維斯布魯克這賽季的場均上場時間只比庫里多1.3分鐘。


[–]WarriorseBelieve 31 指標 23小時前


I wouldn t call it historically great. But it s a sneakily great season.


我不會說這仍然是歷史級偉大的賽季,但是也算的上是很偉大的。


[–][DEN] Allen Iversono2lsports 84 指標 21小時前


Second-most threes with those splits is historically great. There s not an argument otherwise.


以這種命中率投進歷史上賽季第二多的三分球就是歷史級別的偉大,不然就是胡說了。


[–]swegafor 29 指標 19小時前


you literally remove steph curry s season last year, and it would be historically the greatest display of 3pt shooting lol. It s historically great as the 2nd best display of 3pt shooting, it just doesn t feel like it cause of the addition of durant and curry s "down year"


你這樣說就完全是移除了上賽季庫里的表現了,上賽季可以說歷史上最偉大的三分球投射表現,哈哈。雖然這賽季他仍然有著歷史上第二偉大的三分球投射表現,但是感覺上就完全不同了,因為球隊增加了杜蘭特,以及庫里本身出現了一些「下滑」。


[–]WarriorsSirLuciousL 7 指標 12小時前


I can t wait till next year when Westbrook has his "down year".


"He only had 35 triple doubles this year, he really fell off."


我已經等不及下賽季威少打出「下滑的一年了」。


「今年他只有35個三雙,他真的退步了。」


[–]CelticsIfuckinglovebball 27 指標 23 小時前


There s no narrative against Steph, some guys have just been better


這賽季沒有對庫里任何不利的劇本,只是有些球員簡單的比他出色罷了。


[–]WarriorsButtMuddBrookss 176 指標 23小時前


You are crazy dude. People keep calling this a down year for him and if something s wrong. Swap out Steph for Kemba and attach all of Stephs stats from this yeah and walker would be a top 3 mvp candidate


你們真的瘋了朋友,人們總是說今年是庫里下滑的一年,而且好像他本身出現了什麼問題一樣。就把庫里和沃克的名字互換一樣,然後把所有今年庫里的數據移到沃克身上,你就會得到一個MVP前3的球員。


[–]RaptorsDuuhh_LightSwitch 13 指標 23小時前


"Down year" is relative. I grant it has some negative connotation to it, but it s not inaccurate


「下滑的一年」是相對的,我同意這說法包含一些消極的暗示,但是總體上來說並不是不準確的。


[–]CavaliersGhostfaceThrillah 5 指標 21小時前


Voter fatigue? People just expect Steph to put up numbers like this because of his previous 2 seasons. That s why he s not getting as much recognition. He s still tearing it up.


審美疲勞?人們已經習慣了庫里能夠打出這些的數據,因為他前2個賽季瘋狂的表現。這也是他這賽季得不到足夠認可的原因,但是他仍然很日天。


[–][WAS] John Walllivefreeordont 98 指標 22小時前


People aren t respecting just how good Curry has been the previous two years


人們一點都不尊重前兩個賽季庫里有多麼的棒。


[–]Spurshoffmanmclaunsky 32 指標 21小時前


Because people don t respect how good Steph Curry is. LeBron is loved and hated, but also universally respected even by his haters. Even KDs biggest haters would say he s a top 5 player. Stephs haters will say he s the third best pg in the league, 4th if you count Harden. Steph really hasn t gotten much respect this year. The Finals really tarnished how some people feel about his skill.


這些論調的出現都是因為人們不尊重庫里有多麼的出色。雖然有人喜歡勒布朗,也有人恨他,但是總體上來說,就算是勒布朗的黑子也會尊重他的能力和成就。就算黑杜蘭特最猛的人也會承認他是聯盟前五的球員。相反庫里的黑子就會說他只是聯盟里的第三控衛,如果你算上哈登那他就是第四。庫里今年真的沒有得到什麼尊重,去年總決賽的失利真的讓一些人對他的能力產生了質疑。


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