別去管什麼MVP了，來看看美球迷選出來的戰五渣一陣！

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別去管什麼MVP了，來看看美球迷選出來的戰五渣一陣！

Forget MVP -- who should win LEAST Valuable Player? (self.nba)

別再去爭論誰是MVP了——看看誰才是這賽季最沒有價值的球員吧？

Some caveats on this list --

--- Obviously, the worst players in the league are the ones who sit at the end of the bench and don"t get any playing time. However, this award is trying to "honor" the player who hurt their team the most this season, so we"re focusing on players who log heavy minutes (20+) and consequently negatively affected their team"s play.

--- I"m ignoring young players (under 22) who are still developing. A young pup like Emmanuel Mudiay is much worse than replacement level, but in theory the Nuggets are wise to play him with the hope that he can be better someday. We won"t pick on their growing pains.

--- I"m also bypassing players on tanking teams that didn"t particularly care about winning or losing this season.

With all that said, he"s my list.

dishonorable mentions

Solomon Hill (NO), Marco Belinelli (CHA), Matthew Dellavedova (MIL), J.R. Smith (CLE), Marcus Morris (DET), EDIT: forgot Joakim Noah (NY)

LEAST value players (2016-17)

(5) SF Evan Turner, Portland: 25.6 mins per game, 11.6 PER

Most savvy NBA fans groaned when the Blazers paid Turner $17 million a season this summer, and their skepticism has largely been justified. Turner"s primary talent (his playmaking) isn"t best suited to a team with a loaded backcourt. Turner"s 3.2 assists a game is solid, but doesn"t make up for his lack of shooting ability (currently at 26.3% from three). In fact, ESPN"s real +/- lists his offensive impact as an atrocious -2.9, one of the lowest marks in the league given his playing time. Turner"s also a mediocre defender, making him a net negative on the year.

(4) SG Josh Richardson, Miami: 30.3 mins per game, 10.7 PER

The unheralded Richardson came out of nowhere last season and lit it up to the tune of 46.1% shooting from beyond the arc (albeit it on a total of only 115 attempts). Given that, there were high expectations for this year, and some heavy playing time given to the 23-year-old (who just barely qualifies for our age limit). Turns out... that shooting maaay have been a fluke. Richardson"s gotten the green light this year (launching twice as many threes), but his efficiency"s down to 32.6%. His defense is solid, but overall there"s not enough there to justify 30 minutes a night.

(3) SG Arron Afflalo, Sacramento: 25.8 mins per game, 8.7 PER

Unlike the previous two wings, Afflalo"s actually shot well from beyond the arc this season, hitting 41%. The problem is: he doesn"t add much else. He only grabs 2.1 rebounds a game (in 25+ minutes) and his defense (always overrated) has been worse than ever. Real +/- lists him as a -2.7 on that end. The Kings may be tanking now, but they didn"t come into the season with that intention. Afflalo"s mediocre ability is a reason that those playoff hopes were mere pipedreams.

(2) PF Jeff Green, Orlando: 22.2 mins per game, 10.6 PER

Along with Arron Afflalo, Jeff Green is becoming a staple of LVP consideration over these last few years. Despite a consensus that he wasn"t a productive NBA player any more, the genius that is Rob Hennigan actually gave him a 1 year, $15 million deal (on the presumption that the Magic may contend for the playoffs). Time to go back to the drawing (white) board, Mr. Hennigan. Green has proven to be as ineffective as ever; he can"t shoot (39.4% from the field, 27.5% from three) and his defense is below average (-1.5 according to real plus/minus). Green may have won the LVP if he got more than his 22 minutes a night.

(1) SG Monta Ellis, Indiana: 27.0 mins per game, 10.2 PER

In theory, Monta Ellis should be a helpful NBA player. At the very least, he should be a scoring machine off the bench, a la Jamal Crawford. Unfortunately, Ellis isn"t an effective scorer anymore, logging just 8.6 points per game despite 27 minutes a night. He can"t stretch the floor (32.1% from three), or defend (-1.7 real plus/minus on that end). He"s not even hitting his three throws (72.7%). Ellis may not be the worst player in the league, or even the worst player on this list, but he"s the one logging meaningful minutes for an actual contender and dragging them down the most.

Edit Most Miami Heat fans strongly defend Josh Richardson, so it feels like I"m off on him. The most common "snub" so far has been Chandler Parsons, but he didn"t play enough minutes this year to qualify.

對下面這份榜單的一些說明：

---顯然，聯盟里最差的球員肯定是那些處於板凳末端，得不到任何上場時間的人。然而，我提出的「最沒有價值球員」這個獎項是想要「表彰」那些這賽季里對球隊傷害最大的球員，所以我們的關注點在於那些有著大量上場時間（20+分鐘），結果卻對球隊的表現產生負作用的球員。

---我忽略了那些非常年輕（22歲以下），仍然處於成長階段的球員。一個年輕小夥子比如像穆迪埃，他要比球隊中自己位置上的替代者糟糕得多，但是理論上掘金仍然給他上場機會是很理智的，期望他能夠在以後變得更好。我們不會因為成長的代價就把他們放進這份榜單里。

---同時我也繞過了那些擺爛球隊里的球員，因為這賽季他們的母隊本身就不怎麼關心勝負。

說了這麼多，下面是我的榜單。

榮譽提名：

所羅門-希爾（鵜鶘），馬科-貝里內利（黃蜂），馬修-德拉維多瓦（雄鹿），J.R.史密斯（騎士），馬庫斯-莫里斯（活塞），註：我忘了喬金-諾阿（尼克斯）。

正式頒獎：最沒有價值的球員（2016-17）

（5）小前鋒 埃文-特納，開拓者：場均25.6分鐘，效率值11.6

絕大多數懂球的人都會抱怨開拓者在去年夏天給了特納一份1700萬一年的合同，而當時他們大多數的懷疑都被證明是對的。特納最主要的天賦（他的組織能力）並不適合這支後場擁擠的球隊，這賽季他場均3.2記助攻確實很棒，但是這不足以彌補他在投射能力上的缺失（目前三分命中率只有26.3%）。事實上嗎，ESPN的真實正負值表顯示他在進攻端的影響居然達到了殘暴的-2.9，這樣的數據屬於聯盟最低的之一，鑒於他這麼多的上場時間。特納在防守端也平庸，這樣就使得這賽季他的作用完全為負。

（4）得分後衛 約什-理查德森，熱火：場均30.3分鐘，效率值10.7

名不見經傳的理查德森上賽季不知怎麼的就爆發了，並投出了46.1%的三分球命中率（儘管只出手了115次）。鑒於此，今年他身上的期望本應該很高，而且大量的上場時間給予到了這個23歲的年輕人身上（他差一點就達到了我們的年齡限制了），結果卻......也許上賽季的命中率只是僥倖罷了。今年理查德森得到了無限開火的權利（三分出手數比去年多了兩倍），但是他的命中率下降到了只有32.6%。他的防守很好，但是總體上這並不足以證明他值得每晚30分鐘的上場時間。

（3）得分後衛 阿隆-阿弗拉羅，國王：場均25.8分鐘，效率值8.7

不像上面兩個側翼球員，這賽季阿弗拉羅在三分線外的表現還挺不錯，命中率達到了41%。然而問題在於：其他方面他都不行。他場均只能搶到2.1個籃板（在25+分鐘的時間裡），同時他的防守（總是被高估）也是到達了從未有過的糟糕。真實正負值顯示他在防守端的數據只有-2.7。也許國王現在在擺爛，但是他們並不是賽季一開始就是這麼想的。阿弗拉羅的平庸也是國王季後賽夢想落空的原因之一。

（2）大前鋒 傑夫-格林，魔術：場均22.2分鐘，效率值10.6

和阿弗拉羅一樣，傑夫-格林已然成為最近幾年「最沒價值球員」評選中的一根標杆。儘管大家都已經對他不再是一個高產出的球員達成了共識，但是天才總經理羅伯-亨尼根實際上卻給了他一份一年1500萬的合同（還是在假設魔術能夠衝進季後賽的前提下開出的）。亨尼根先生，您還是回去當副手繪製交易白板吧。格林已經證明了他達到了從未有過的低效，他投射糟糕（命中率39.4%，三分命中率27.5%），防守也低於平均值（真實正負值顯示防守數據為-1.5）。如果他得到了超過22分鐘的上場時間，也許「最沒有價值球員」的獎盃就是他的了。

（1）得分後衛 蒙塔-埃利斯，步行者：場均27分鐘，效率值10.2

理論上來說，艾利斯應該是個很有作用的球員。最起碼他應該是板凳席上的一名得分好手，就像克勞福德那樣。不幸的是，艾利斯已經不再是名高效的得分手了，儘管每晚仍然有27分鐘的上場時間，他卻只能得到8.6分。他無法為球隊拉開空間（三分線外命中率只有32.1%），防守也很糟糕（防守端真實正負值-1.7），就連罰球他都經常投丟（72.7%的罰球命中率）。艾利斯也許不是聯盟里最糟糕的球員，就算在這份榜單里，他也不是最差勁的，但是他卻是那個從確實有季後賽實力的球隊中獲得大量有效上場時間，卻將球隊拖垮的人。

註：大多數的熱火球迷都非常強硬的為約什-理查德森辯護，所以感覺我可能錯怪他了。目前為止受到最多斥責的一直都是錢德勒-帕森斯，但是今年他並沒有上場足夠的時間從而讓他有資格進入評選的範圍。

[–][CHI] Rajon Rondoptam 562 指標 1 天前

Homer opinion but: Cameron Payne.

His value was dancing with Westbrook; he doesn"t even have that anymore.

公牛蜜：可能帶有主觀色彩的選擇，但是我一定要說：卡梅隆-佩恩。

他的價值就在於和維斯布魯克共舞，但是現在他連這點價值都沒有了。

[–]ZandrickEllison[S] 114 指標 1 天前

According to Gar, he has quite a bit of trade value, apparently...

但是根據加爾-福曼的做法來說，顯然他有很高的交易價值。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rosebluexdd 38 指標 1 天前

Gar totally knows what he"s talking about, look at all that he"s done; he drafted Jimmy Butler! /s

加爾絕對知道他在做什麼，看看他的成就吧，他為我們選中了吉米-巴特勒！

[–]Bullswjbc 12 指標 1 天前

Doug McDermott played many more minutes and was one of the least productive players in the league. Payne might be just as bad or worse, but hasn"t played nearly as much.

之前道格-邁克德莫特的出場時間要高的多，而且是聯盟中產出最低的球員之一。佩恩也許和他一樣差或者更糟，但是遠沒有他獲得的上場時間多。

[–]Knicksazizinator25 208 指標 1 天前

Both Noah and Parsons should be on this list.

諾阿和帕森斯都應該在樓主的榜單里。

[–][TOR] Jose Calderondeadskin 100 指標 1 天前

Yeah, but technically Parsons is "only" playing 19.9MPG which is below the 20MPG that OP wants

是的，但是講道理帕森斯的場均上場時間「只有」19.9分鐘，這樣就低於樓主所說的20分鐘的標準。

[–]ZandrickEllison[S] 76 指標 1 天前

yeah they"ve both missed a ton of games, too, which limits their ineffectiveness.

他倆都缺席了大量的比賽，這也限制了他們的低效。

[–][TOR] Serge Iba*河蟹*tyDanoTho 25 指標 1 天前

But they both make >Mozgov money

但是他倆拿的錢比莫茲戈夫還多。

[–][WAS] John Walllivefreeordont 34 指標 1 天前

contract doesnt have an effect on MVP why should it have an effect on LVP?

合同因素並不會計入MVP的考慮範圍內，那麼為什麼要計入「最沒有價值球員」的考慮範圍內呢？

[–]ZandrickEllison[S] 9 指標 1 天前

I didn"t really factor in contracts, personally, but I did reference them. I think, in many of these cases, bad players get playing time because the team wants to justify their contract.

實際上我個人並沒有認真的去考慮合同，但是我確實對此有些參考。我認為很多時候糟糕的球員仍然得到上場時間，原因就是球隊想兌現他合同的價值。

[–]Magicdooleysucks 82 指標 1 天前

Jeff Green at #2 is a huge undervaluation of how shitty he truly is.

His offense, defense, and effort were all garbage and we wasted 1500 minutes that should have been going to a D-League guy who actually played hard and tried on defense

I disagree with your analysis on his contract. It was a pretty smart move to bring him in to go over the salary floor and a 1 year deal means it wasn"t detrimental to our future at all. I"d much rather give him 1/15 than 2/20 or 3/25. Just wish we waived him at the deadline once nobody wanted his expiring contract.

傑夫-格林只排第二就完全低估了他的糟糕程度了。

他的進攻，防守和努力程度都非常爛，而且我們在他身上浪費了1500分鐘，這本應該給予某個發展聯盟的傢伙，能夠在場上努力的打球並在防守端拚命。

但是我不同意樓主對於他合同的分析，實際上把他簽下從而填滿「窮鬼線」是個很聰明的舉動，而且1年的合同也不意味著將來他會傷害到球隊。我完全願意給他1年1500萬，而不是2年2000萬或是3年2500萬。只希望我們能在截止日之前裁掉他，如果沒人想接手的話。

[–]KnicksSosaDaVinci 334 指標 1 天前

Joakim Noah...

喬金-諾阿。

[–]76ersTO_show81 60 指標 1 天前

Just put him to #1 and call it a day

把這傢伙放到第一，這份榜單就完整了。

[–][CLE] Kyrie Irvingnvduhn 19 指標 1 天前

I can"t believe how hard he fell off. His D was always what made him, thought he"d keep it in a Ben Wallace way and retire being a key piece... nope, just turned into hot garbage in his last two years with the Bulls and stayed hit garbage on the Knicks. Crazy cuz I"ve always respected Noah, hate him cuz of the rivalry, but dude can play ball. And he"s an insane energy guy.

我還是不相信他下滑的這麼厲害。他的防守一直是成就他的東西，還以為他會像本-華萊士一樣一直保留防守端的技術，並慢慢下滑成一名關鍵的角色球員...然而並不是這樣，在他公牛最後兩年的時間裡諾阿完全變成了垃圾，現在則輪到尼克斯去忍受他了。這聽起來很瘋狂，因為我之前一直很尊敬諾阿，因為他的極具競爭的個性而憎恨他，但是這傢伙真的能打球，而且他曾經是一個能量驚人的傢伙。

[–]Wizards12AaronJones21 71 指標 1 天前

You"re out of your mind putting Josh Richardson on this list. He"s a great defender. Wall shot 5-18 in his last matchup against him

你把約什-理查德森放到名單里簡直是瘋了。他是個非常出色的防守者，上次沃爾面對他時，投籃只有18中5。

[–]TimberwolvesKLoveUnleashed 9 指標 1 天前

Seriously, Richardson doesn"t belong anywhere near this list. He might be maxxed out in a couple years if he keeps it up. He"s also only making $525K in salary this year...

講道理，理查德森怎麼說都不屬於這份名單，如果他保持現在的趨勢，幾年後也許會拿到頂薪。而且這賽季他也僅僅只拿著52.5萬的工資...

[–][OKC] Dion Waiterspjorneaux 91 指標 1 天前

Semaj Christon, 15.1 mins per game, 5.7 PER

薩馬基-克里斯頓，場均15.1分鐘，效率值5.7。

[–]ZandrickEllison[S] 101 指標 1 天前

He would make the cut if he got up to 20 minutes. I"m still not convinced he"s a real NBA player. feels like a video game franchise mode name.

只要他上場時間達到20分鐘，他就會進入這份榜單。我還是不相信他是個真實存在的NBA球員，感覺這好像只是遊戲模式里才有的名字。

[–]nballaccess 28 指標 1 天前

he hit the shot that got russ the record SMH

然而他卻命中了那記幫助威少破紀錄的投籃。

[–]MavericksDirkNowitzkisWife 19 指標 1 天前

Chandler Parsons: 675 minutes played, 6.2/3.5/1.6 on 43.6% true shooting, missed 48 games, 7.6 PER, net rating of -16, getting paid over 22 million a year.

錢德勒-帕森斯：一共打了675分鐘，場均6.2/3.5/1.6，真實命中率43.6%，缺席48場比賽，效率值7.6，凈效率-16，一年拿著超過2200萬的工資。

[–][ATL] Josh ChildressTittyBoyTellEm 35 指標 1 天前

How"s Corey Brewer doing these days?

最近布魯爾表現如何？

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantDongsquad420BlazeIt 52 指標 1 天前

Training our young players in how to score 50 points in a game.

湖人蜜：正在教我們的年輕小夥子們怎麼一場比賽拿50分呢。

[–]Thunderokiewxchaser 61 指標 1 天前

Kyle Singler

凱爾-辛格勒

[–]JazzSFW_developer 37 指標 1 天前

Hasn"t this man been through enough!

難道這位大兄弟經歷得還不夠多嗎！

[–]Thundermisterzadir 7 指標 1 天前

Singler is 6th man, bruh. All day.

雷霆蜜：大兄弟，辛格勒絕對是我們的第六人，怎麼說都是。

[–]ThunderZenWizdom 2 指標 1 天前

I was gonna say Kyle Singler... but then he shut me up by becoming our MVP candidate in the last 2 games

我本來準備說凱爾-辛格勒的...但是他這兩場比賽的表現讓我閉上了嘴，我會說他是MVP的候選人。

[–][PHO] Devin BookerDBook1 10 指標 1 天前

Brandon Knight

布蘭頓-奈特

[–]ZandrickEllison[S] 7 指標 1 天前

He"s up there, but I think teams are starting to realize he"s in that Jeff Green toxic mold. Down from 36.0 minutes to 21 this year.

他確實很爛，但是我認為球隊已經意識到了他是和傑夫-格林一樣的毒瘤，今年他的上場時間已經從36分鐘下降到21分鐘了。

[–]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 13 指標 1 天前

It"s so crazy how hard he fell off. He was a borderline All-Star a couple of years ago on the Bucks.

他下滑的速度之快簡直令人驚奇，幾年前在雄鹿時他還是個全明星邊緣的球員

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