美球迷如何看待威少三刃劍導致雷霆輸球？我媽都看懂了

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美球迷如何看待威少三刃劍導致雷霆輸球？我媽都看懂了

Westbrook is both the only reason his team is in this game but also the reason his team is going to lose this game (self.nba)

威少既是這支雷霆能夠緊咬比分的原因，但同時也是他的球隊輸掉比賽的原因。

是的，他已經拿到了47分，但是這傢伙在不停地強行出手投籃，同時總想著造犯規...從某種角度來說，他在關鍵時刻強行大量出手這種垃圾投籃，以及不給隊友傳球的行為已經傷害到了自己的球隊。

第四節18中4...

顯然威少是雷霆能在這個場地上打球的唯一原因，但是他處理關鍵球的方式確實值得商榷。

註：我想最後說幾點，因為看上去這是個非常有爭議的帖子...威少花了43次出手去拿到51分，同時得到了18次罰球。我們在談的是一場效率非常低的比賽。他在第四節里18中4，在關鍵時刻仍然拒絕傳球。當威少想要出手糟糕的受干擾投籃時，像麥克德莫特這樣的隊友正處在底角的超級大空位中...在你們告訴我麥克德莫特很垃圾之前，他在這場比賽三分球可是4中3。在某些時候，你需要把球傳給空位的隊友。我寧願讓麥克德莫特在大空位下出手一記三分，也不想看到你們球隊投籃糟糕的超級球星連續8次在受干擾的情況下出手糟糕的跳投。

這場比賽威少本來在傳球上做的非常好（在前三節）。你們想知道什麼時候的雷霆是最可怕的嗎？正是當威少讓隊友都參與到進攻中的時候。在第四節他完全偏離了這一方向，然後比賽就從只差2~3分的拉鋸戰變成了火箭領先10~12分。

在我最近的印象中，威少好像是那種少數的每次犯錯都會被放過的超級球星之一。這有點讓我感到困惑，43投51分？就好像你是認真的嗎？威少在關鍵時刻直接用糟糕的投籃葬送了勝利，我想這是不是太糟糕了一點。

另外上一個福利，看看這個世界級別的防守吧，這傢伙在第四節對貝弗利沒有任何一點防守。威少太習慣去搶籃板從而他能拿到三雙了，唉有點搞笑，但只是感到很痛心。

Yes, he"s got 47 but the dude is forcing shot after shot trying to draw foul after foul... At a certain point he"s hurting his team down the stretch by forcing garbage shots and refusing to pass the ball.

4/18 in the fourth quarter....

Obviously he"s the sole reason the Thunder are even in this game but something has to be said for his play down the stretch.

EDIT of the edits: the last points that I"ll make here since this seems to be such a controversial post and I rustled a lot of jimmies.. Westbrook took 43 shots to get 51 points. He also took 18 free throws. Talk about a terribly inefficient game. He was 4/18 in the fourth quarter and refused to pass the ball down the stretch. Guys like McDermott were standing wide open in the corner but Westbrook wanted to take bad contested jumpers.. By the way, before you tell me McDermott sucks, he was 3/4 from behind the arc in this game. At a certain point, you have to give your teammates open looks. I"d rather have a wide open McDermott three than a terrible contested shot 8 possessions in a row by your bad jump shooting super star.

Westbrook had a great game passing the basketball too (in the first three quarters). Guess when the Thunder were playing their best? When Westbrook was getting his other guys involved. He completely went away from that in the fourth quarter and the game went from a back and forth 2-3 point game to a 10-12 point lead by the Rockets.

Russell Westbrook seems to be one of the few super stars of recent memory that gets a pass every time he makes poor decisions. It kind of boggles my mind. 43 shots to get 51 points? Like are you serious? Lmao WB shot his team right out of the game down the stretch but hey I guess that"s just too bad

OH AND A BONUS FOR YA? CHECK OUT THIS WORLD CLASS DEFENSE Dude didn"t play a lick of defense on Beverly in the fourth. WB so used to trying to get the rebound so he can get triple doubles lmao just sad

[–]Ayyylmaowhat 1608 指標 12小時前

My mom: "Westbrook is shooting in despair"

我的母親：「威少正在絕望的投籃。」

[–]Timberwolvescjsplash[S] 195 指標 12小時前

Your mom is a smart lady

你媽媽是個聰明的女人。

[–]Ayyylmaowhat 211 指標 12小時前

She also said "no not in desperation, in despair" when I asked for clarification

當我問她具體是什麼意思時，她還表示「不是奮力一搏，而只是絕望」。

[–]ClippersTestFixation 142 指標 11小時前

Desperation is the Lakers needing a top 3 pick in order to keep it.

Despair is the Nets already having traded it away.

奮力一搏是指湖人需要拿到前3的順位才能保留這個選秀權。

絕望是指已經把選秀權交易出去了的籃網。

[–]WarriorsPunchyMcFisticuffs 30 指標 10小時前

Desperation is when you"re about to lose so you do anything you can to stay alive.

Despair is when you already know you"re dead. He might still be fighting but he doesn"t think he can win.

奮力一搏是指你即將死去，然後你盡所有可能去保持生命。

絕望是指你已經知道你死了。威少可能仍然在抗爭，但是他不認為自己能贏了。

[–][GSW] Zaza PachuliaDisgruntledAlpaca 69 指標 12小時前

If anything, it demonstrates the issue. Since the entire offense is Rus controlled, the moment he"s off the court the engine is gone.

如果有任何事情能夠解釋這個問題的話，那就是雷霆整個進攻都是由威少掌控的，從他下場的那一刻開始，球隊的引擎就沒了。

[–]ironflagNZ 26 指標 8小時前

It makes sense, a lot of the guys looked scared to take good Shots. The only people aren"t are Gibson (vet and new to the team) and Kanter (only other person who can create and knows he has a green light).... Kinda makes sense.

Adams never looks like he wants to score, Dipo has been Beta all year.

這有些道理，很多雷霆的球員看起來都非常害怕去出手機會不錯的投籃。唯一例外的就是吉布森（老將，而且剛加進球隊）和坎特（另外球員中唯一一個能自己創造機會並知道自己享有綠燈的人）...看起來很有道理。

亞當斯看起來從來不想去得分，奧拉迪波則在一整個賽季里都處於打下手的位置。

[–]HeatACNL 140 指標 10小時前

hell yeah it did. ffs the coach (whoever is fking leading that team, god knows if someone is actually steering or if westbrook is the real bus driver) needs to just look at what happened when he sat westbrook. THE TEAM COLLAPSED cuz they were not used to playing without westbrook. ERROR 404 POPPED UP IN ALL THEIR HEADS. saddest thing I have ever seen.

真見鬼，但確實是這樣，真心希望教練（任何一個實際上領導這支球隊的人，天知道實際上有沒有人在為球隊掌舵，或者說威少才是真正有權利的人）去仔細看看當威少下場後局面發生了什麼變化。整支球隊都崩塌了，因為他們不習慣在沒有威少時打球，每個人的腦子在當時都短路了，真是我所見過的最沮喪的事情。

[–][CLE] Kevin LoveThat_Ohio_Guy 830 指標 12小時前

Story of their season

這就是雷霆整個賽季的縮影。

[–][MIA] Harold Minerparadoxofchoice 521 指標 12小時前

story of his career. he is the double edged sword.

也是威少生涯的縮影，他是把雙刃劍。

[–]Rocketslovetape 1044 指標 12小時前

you could say...

he"s a Tripple-Double Edged Sword

你其實可以說...

他是把三刃劍...

[–]Rockets Bandwagonbuddha_abusa 76 指標 11小時前

Russell Westbrook: The cause of, and solution to, all of the Thunder"s problems.

拉塞爾-威斯布魯克：雷霆所有問題的起源和解決方法。

[–]ThunderIsntmatt 569 指標 12小時前

You could see he was pissed when he went to the bench and they lost the 12 point lead in 60 seconds.

當威少被換下場時你能看到他很生氣，然後雷霆在60秒內就葬送了12分的領先。

[–]CavaliersDeanBlandino 413 指標 11小時前

They probably forgot how to play basketball after standing around all season watching him do shit. He does not improve his teammates at all. Just look at the 4th quarter... he was atrocious and still wouldn"t let them shoot. Any player on OKC could have shot better than him in the 4th and they would have won.

在整個賽季都看著威少大包大攬後，他的隊友們可能已經忘了怎麼去打球了。威少根本沒有提升自己的隊友，就看看第四節吧...他的狀態非常糟糕，但是仍然不給隊友們機會去投籃。只要有一個隊友在第四節的手感比威少好，他們就能贏下比賽。

[–]thou_shalt_wander 171 指標 11小時前

Twice he shot contested threes when McDermott was standing wide open

在邁克德莫特處在大空位的情況下，威少強行出手了兩次受干擾的三分球。

[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 100 指標 12小時前

Westbrook was playing crazy good early in the game as a facilitator.

Not even joking, the lineups with Westbrook on them, when he was focusing on passing the ball, had been so fucking deadly at the beginning of the game. He had 10 assists at the half

火蜜：在比賽剛開始的時候，威少作為一名分享者，打出了驚人的表現。

不是開玩笑，比賽早期當雷霆的在場上的陣容有威少，而且當他開始專註於傳球時，他們太致命了。半場威少就拿了10個助攻。

[–]Spursnoj776 92 指標 9小時前

And 3 the rest of the game. Thats the EXACT problem. He stopped being a facilitator and decided to play hero ball. No one on that team is going to tell him no, and no one on that team trusts themselves because their superstar doesnt trust them.

然後剩下的時間裡他只拿了3個，這正是原因所在。他停止了分享球，開始打英雄球了。雷霆沒有人想要告訴威少別這麼打，沒有人相信他們自己能命中投籃，因為球隊的超級球星就不相信他們。

[–]Warriorssobizzle 62 指標 7小時前

Almost like he got the double digit assists and rebounds and then said "now I just keep shooting and we win"

就好像他先讓自己的籃板和助攻上雙，然後便說「好了，現在我就要開始無限出手了，然後我們會拿下比賽的」。

[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 20 指標 9小時前

Dude, I was so fucking scared that first half. So fucking scared. He was passing like Harden at his best, getting EVERYONE involved, etc.

火蜜：朋友，我在第一節時真的非常害怕，太可怕了，他的傳球就好像哈登狀態最佳時最能做到的那樣，讓每一個人都參與到了比賽當中，等等。

[–]Knicks Bandwagonarvs17 32 指標 6小時前

That"s the difference between them to be honest. Harden sure takes control when crunch time but he still makes the right play. Lets say you swap Harden with Westbrook, Harden will definitely pass to the open McDermott rather than forcing a contested shot.

其實這就是威少和哈登之間的區別，哈登在關鍵時刻確實會接管比賽，但是他仍然會做出正確的選擇。我們就說把哈登和威少互換一下吧，哈登絕對會把球傳給空位的邁克德莫特，而不是出手一記對抗下的投籃。

[–]NBAFuck-The-Modz 200 指標 12小時前

Live by the Bestbrook, die by the Westbrick

生也手感好的威少，死也打鐵的威少。

[–][GSW] Chris Mullintemp_achil 87 指標 10小時前

If you can"t handle him at his worstbrook, you don"t deserve him at his bestbrook.

如果你受不了XJB打的不擼客，你就不值得擁有最好的不擼客。

[–]OKC HornetsFuzzCuz 579 指標 12小時前

Did you see what happened when he was on the bench? The team can"t do anything offensively when he isn"t on the court.

你看到威少下場後雷霆的表現了嗎？當他下場後，這支球隊在進攻端做不了任何事情。

[–]HeatDolfanz019 443 指標 12小時前

Westbrook left the game for like a minute & the Rockets go on a 7-0 run right away lol. You could see Westbrook saying "put me back in" angry as hell

威少下場了一分鐘，火箭立即就打了一波7-0，哈哈哈。你能想像到威少非常生氣的說「快讓我回去！」。

[–]Thunder BandwagonDongsquad420BlazeIt 239 指標 12小時前

He was +11 in 41 minutes. I feel so sorry for him.

威少在41分鐘里的正負值為+11，我為這傢伙感到惋惜。

[–]MavericksDouchebag_Dave 133 指標 10小時前*

Gibson and Adams were +17 and +18. I think the main reason for them being down wasn"t Westbrook going off, but their horrible big man rotation (their second unit sucks).

edit: And that they have no play maker for the second unit. And I just realized Kanter played only 7 mins among other coaching mistakes. Poor OKC.

吉布森和亞當斯的正負值卻達到了+17和+18啊。我認為雷霆落後最主要的問題不是威少啞火了，而是他們糟糕的大個子輪換（他們的第二陣容太爛了）。

註：而且在第二陣容里他們沒有任何組織者，我剛剛才意識到在這麼多教練的失誤中，坎特只打了7分鐘。可憐的雷霆。

[–]ThunderFuckingLoveArborDay 119 指標 10小時前

Kanter basically can"t play when Harden"s on the floor. Houston is too good at getting Harden into 1-on-1 matchups with Kanter.

當哈登在場上時坎特絕對不能上，火箭太擅長讓哈登得到與坎特1v1的機會了。

[–][PHI] Jumaine Jonesronaldo119 59 指標 10小時前

Yea we literally saw it last game Billy Donovan said "Kanter can"t be out there" after like the 5th time in a row he got roasted

是的，上場比賽在坎特連續被打進了五個球，被火箭烤熟之後，我們也聽到多諾萬自己說「坎特不能在場上」。

[–]Raptorspkthunderous 307 指標 12小時前

just because they"re bad when hes off the court, doesnt mean when hes on the court he needs to take every shot.

look at the shooting percentages of their players this game, they"re mostly decent. when westbrook is off the court, its more that they cant get good looks. so when westbrook is on the court, as their point guard he should be getting those good looks for his teammates and not just him shooting.

就算雷霆的隊友在威少下場後很糟糕，也不意味著他上場後每一球都得自己來。

看看他隊友這場比賽的命中率吧，絕大部分都很好。當威少下場時，他們更多的是得不到空位的機會，所以當他回到場上後，作為球隊的控衛，他應該為隊友創造空位，而不是簡單的自己射。

[–]Rocketsitsbarron 255 指標 12小時前

I wouldnt say he was the reason they lost. he just couldn"t close it out

火蜜：我不會說威少是雷霆輸球的原因，他只是沒有能夠終結比賽罷了。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookbrooke_davis 170 指標 12小時前

it"s amazing how most rockets fans seem to be the only ppl to understand that this loss wasn"t on russ.

雷蜜：非常驚訝的事情就是為什麼大多數的火蜜才是論壇上唯一能夠理解這場失利不怪威少的人。

[–]HeatCrashoff 129 指標 12小時前

Cause they"re about the only other people on here who actually watched the game..

因為他們大概是除了雷霆球迷之外論壇中唯一看了比賽的人群吧...

[–]Rocketshyakubi205 115 指標 12小時前

I was just about ready to throw my phone at the wall when he had that long ass stretch where he just made every single mid range jumper

在威少手感火熱的那段非常長的時間裡，我都已經準備要摔手機了，他就是能投進每一個跳投。

[–]RocketsCrazM 63 指標 12小時前

Because we saw this with Harden pre Dwight. Took Harden a while to stop playing heroball and freezing everyone out in the fourth.

火蜜：因為我們在霍華德到來之前也在哈登身上看到了一模一樣的事情，哈登花了好久才停止了在第四節里打英雄球，從而封鎖住了所有的隊友。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrooksir_alvarex 17 指標 11小時前

It"s about having a 2nd and 3rd option you know you can trust. Plus extra spacing.

I think the Thunder will get there. Just hope it"s within 2 seasons.

關鍵在於球隊中存在你所信賴的第2選擇或是第3選擇，加上球場上為你拉開的額外空間。

我認為雷霆總會到達那裡的，希望在兩個賽季之內吧。

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