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庫有引力!庫里在場隊友TS%飛升,16賽季統治力和喬丹、奧尼爾同一水平

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庫有引力!庫里在場隊友TS%飛升,16賽季統治力和喬丹、奧尼爾同一水平


Stephen Curry"s impact on his teammates" TS% last season is greater than that of any other star I"ve seen. (self.nba)


上賽季庫里對隊友真實命中率的影響,比我見過的其他任何一名球星都要大。




上圖:




註:黃點表示和庫里一起打球時,該球員的真實命中率。 灰點表示庫里下場後,該球員的真實命中率。
Notes:


I did this for a few players, and most stars have positive impacts on average. None of them come close to Steph"s though.


Admittedly, small sample size is always a concern with on-off stats. There"s likely a lot of multicollinearity and much of this is the result of playing with Steph AND KD or Steph AND Klay. So don"t read too much into this.


說明:


我對一些球員做了這樣的圖,大多數球星基本上都有正向的影響,但他們中沒有人能夠接近庫里的水平。


應當承認的是,有關上場與否這樣的統計量,樣本的容量總是比較小,這些數據中可能存在有很大的多重共線性,而這其中很大的一部分原因是因為隊友們總是會與庫里和杜蘭特一起或者庫里和湯普森一起在場上打球,所以不要對此進行過分解讀。





[–]Warriorsuntouchable765 172 指標 20小時前


G R A V I T Y


庫!有!引!力!


[–]Bullsivandragostwin 422 指標 20小時前


Man, if you are a center how do you not want to go to Golden State? I can"t imagine what a dude like DeAndre Jordan would look like with Curry out there.


You would definitely need more context including total minutes with Curry to make sure the sample sizes are significant like with McCaw but I think if there are 2 things to take from this is that Durant is gonna Durant no matter what and Centers feast with Curry out there.


老兄,如果你是名中鋒的話,你怎麼會不想去勇士隊打球呢?我簡直不敢想像,如果有個像小喬丹那樣的傢伙和庫里一起打球的話會是什麼樣。


但是樓主肯定還需要更多的背景,包括和庫里一起上場的總時間,來確保研究像麥考這樣的球員時,樣本量是有效的。但我覺得,如果能從這些數據中提取兩條有用的信息的話,那就是——第一,無論怎樣,杜蘭特永遠都是杜蘭特;第二,庫里能把中鋒喂到飽。


[–]Timberwolvessakattack7 212 指標 19小時前


DJ and AD would be fucking perfect in that system, like they would truly be unstoppable.


小喬丹和濃眉會特么的完美適應勇士那個體系的,就像他們會真的無法阻擋的。


[–]Mavericksfgh444 433 指標 19小時前


AD on the Warriors would turn the NBA into the Dream Team Olympics


擁有濃眉的勇士隊會把NBA比賽變成夢之隊參加的奧運會。


[–]Warriorsowlbi 78 指標 19小時前


「if you are a center how do you not want to go to Golden State?」


Because you like money more than being a contender.


I think Javale"s off-season has been a good litmus test showing that teams are aware the Curry effect. Nobody has broken the bank to bring him in and he"s still out there available.


「如果你是名中鋒的話,你怎麼會不想去勇士隊打球呢?」


因為相比起成為冠軍競爭者,你更喜歡錢一些。


我覺得麥基的休賽期是一塊不錯的試金石,說明其他球隊已經意識到了庫里的影響力。沒有人願意傾家蕩產也要把麥基帶回球隊,而且現在他仍然在自由球員市場上。


[–]HornetsTheMrSomeGuy 59 指標 18小時前


Yeah, like it"s nice to compete for championships but it"s also nice to be a middle-tier center and get some trash team to pay you $15 million a year.


是的,能爭奪冠軍固然美妙,但是做一名一般水平的中鋒,在一些爛隊里拿一年1500萬的工資也很美滋滋。





[–][GSW] Dajuan Wagneraaahhhh 55 指標 17小時前


I think the fact that Durant is that much better with Curry on the court is really saying something about Steph. He makes the most efficient scorer in today"s NBA and perhaps all time more efficient.


我覺得當有庫里在場時,杜蘭特還能提高的這個程度真的說明了庫里身上的一些東西。他讓當今NBA里,同時可能也是歷史上最高效的得分手,變得更加高效了。


[–][MIL] Thon Makernomitycs 1089 指標 20小時前


This is what people who think Curry is overrated don"t generally understand about him but this sub generally has a good understanding of it tbf. He"s the best teammate you can have and what makes him so great/ a transcendent player.


Good shit op, these posts are what this sub needs


這是那些認為庫里被高估的人,普遍所不能理解的庫里身上的事,但是公平的說,這個論壇里的人基本上都能很好的理解這一點。庫里就是你所能擁有的最好的隊友,而這也是他如此偉大,成為一名卓越球員的原因所在。


樓主,你做了非常不錯的工作!這些帖子正是這個論壇里所需要的。


[–]PelicansConsumedAM 428 指標 19小時前


Yeah, his relative lack of apg causes people to assume he doesn"t improve teammates to the degree of other historically great PG"s like Kidd, Magic and Stockton, when in reality he"s even more conducive to a free flowing offense giving the ball up early in possessions and shifting defensive coverage towards him even with the ball out of his hands. A GOAT level offensive player to be sure.


是的,庫里的場均助攻相對少一些,這使得人們開始認為,他並沒有把隊友提升到,諸如基德、魔術師和斯托克頓那些歷史級的偉大控衛所做到的那種高度。而實際上,他更有助於球隊打出水銀瀉地的進攻,庫里在進攻回合中能夠很早的就交出球權,即使是在無球狀態也能讓對手將防守重心偏向他。毫無疑問,庫里是有著史上最佳水平的進攻球員。


[–]hubau 266 指標 19小時前


Steph Curry has a unique tool we"ve never seen: The ability to create a high-efficiency three-pointer while being guarded.


Most nba offences create an open three-pointer by trying to find an open man at the ark. Steph Curry doesn"t need to be open to make that shot efficient. He can create it off the dribble.


What this does is devastating. Most star players see doubles and help, but usually the help is there to stop them from getting to the hoop. This means the help is near the basket and can try to recover back to the play when the star passes. With Curry, you have created the double team 30 feet from the basket, which means that if the offense can find the open man efficiently, the help has no chance to recover: They are usually 10 feet behind the play.


庫里有一項我們之前從未見過的獨一無二的技能包:即使在嚴防死守下也能高效的投進三分的能力。


大多數NBA的進攻中,要想創造一次空位三分的機會,都會試著找到一名在三分線外被放空的球員。而庫里並不需要空位,也能高效的投進三分。他可以通過運球來創造空位。


這簡直就是毀滅性的打擊。大多數明星球員會遭遇包夾和協防,但通常來說協防是為了阻止他們衝擊籃筐。這意味著協防是在籃筐附近的,從而當這些明星球員傳球時,對手是可以努力回防到位的。而面對庫里,你在距離籃筐30英尺的地方就要開始雙人包夾,也就是說,如果在進攻中能夠高效的找到被放空的隊員,協防隊員就沒有機會回防了:他們總是離那些戰術中處於空位的勇士球員有10英尺之遠。


[–]Lakers BandwagonDongsquad420BlazeIt 297 指標 19小時前


His 2016 season was Shaq and Jordan levels of dominance.


庫里的2016賽季達到了奧尼爾和喬丹的統治水平。


[–][NYK] Renaldo BalkmanMrSushimaster 292 指標 19小時前


Shaq and Jordan dominated their respective eras, but no one"s really had a season like Curry"s in "16.


Dude shot .669 TS% on a ridiculous 26.3 FGA/48. Guys like DeAndre and Tyson Chandler are extremely valuable for their ~.700 TS% at low volume. Then Curry goes ahead and basically triples their usage at a similar efficiency. Plus the steals, plus the assists, plus the good rebounding (for a PG). He"s one of those guys who has magic in their fingertips.


奧尼爾和喬丹統治了他們各自的時代,但是沒有人真正打出過一個像16年庫里所打出的那樣的賽季。


這哥們以荒唐的每48分鐘出手26.3次,打出了66.9%的真實命中率。像小喬丹和泰森-錢德勒這樣的球員非常有價值,因為在出手很少的情況下他們有將近70%的真實命中率。而庫里的真實命中率超過了他們,在效率相似的情況下,庫里的使用率基本上是他們的三倍。加上搶斷,助攻,不錯的籃板(對於控衛來說),他是那些指尖上有著魔法的球員之一。





[–]TimberwolvesBentumbo 82 指標 20小時前


McCaw. Holy crap


麥考,我的媽呀。


[–]Warriorsuntouchable765 94 指標 20小時前


Goes from a nobody to a solid rookie getting minutes in the Finals.


從無名小卒成長為一名在總決賽中得到上場時間的可靠新秀。


[–]Warriorsjaqueass 18 指標 17小時前


He"s often the guy getting left open so they can run 3 on Curry/KD.


麥考經常是那個被放空的球員,這樣對手就能用三個人來防庫里和杜蘭特


[–]Nuggetsslayercage 58 指標 17小時前


Everyone talks about how LeBron makes his teammates better, but Curry might be the best in the NBA in terms of elevating his teammates" play.


每個人都在討論詹姆斯是怎樣讓他的隊友變得更好的,但是從提升隊友表現的角度來說,庫里可能是NBA中最棒的。


[–]Cavaliers BandwagonDivisibleZero 9 指標 12小時前


Lebron creates opportunity for his teammates by making plays. Curry creates opportunity for his teammates by stepping on the court.


詹姆斯通過組織進攻來為隊友創造機會,而庫里只要上場就能為隊友創造機會。


[–]Warriorsowlbi 85 指標 19小時前


Steph better when the game flows, refs call fouls, and the pace is fast IMO, so nearly all the regular season. KD is better in the half-court, when refs swallow their whistles, and you need that one bucket to ice the game, i.e. the finals and the end of playoff games. Both are good anytime they"re on the floor, but that"s how I see their benefits to the dubs matching up.


在我看來,當比賽流暢的進行,裁判判罰犯規,節奏很快時,庫里的表現更好,所以幾乎整個常規賽都是如此。而杜蘭特則在半場進攻中表現的更好,而裁判開始不吹哨,在總決賽以及季後賽的最後關頭,你需要致命一擊結束比賽時,這時候杜蘭特就派上用場了。不論何時,只要他倆上場就會是出色的球員,但這就是我認為的對勇士來說庫杜的長處所適合的情景。


[–]WarriorsRushLimbaughIsFat 40 指標 19小時前


I love Curry, but Durant was so damn clutch in the finals. I hate the streotype that Curry chokes, but Durant hit shot after shot when we needed it most.


勇士球迷:我愛庫里,但是杜蘭特在總決賽關鍵時刻的表現太爆了。我很討厭那種說庫里總在關鍵時刻習慣性啞火的固定印象,但是杜蘭特總是在我們最需要得分的時候命中一記又一記的投籃。







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