美球迷熱議歐文現在是聯盟最大心臟的球員嗎？新秀時期他就如此啦

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美球迷熱議歐文現在是聯盟最大心臟的球員嗎？新秀時期他就如此啦

Is Kyrie Irving the Clutchest player in the League? (self.nba)

歐文是聯盟最大心臟的球員嗎？

A lot of people think there"s no such thing as Clutch but Kyrie has a knack of consistently hitting the big shots or going on 4th quarter scoring tirades since his Rookie year. Would everyone agree he deserves that tag?

很多人覺得沒什麼所謂的大心臟而論，但歐文從新秀賽季開始在一如既往的命中關鍵投籃或者第四節打出得分狂潮很有一套。每個人都會同意他配得上這個頭銜嗎？

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantJMD__ 272 指標 7小時前

he"s been hitting game winners since his rookie year..

this is nothing new.

y"all gotta just be acting dumb at this point

歐文從新秀賽季以來就一直能投中絕殺…

這不是什麼新奇的事件。

你們現在這樣大驚小怪就太蠢了。

[–]Cavaliersmpholt 125 指標 7小時前

He was the best clutch scorer in the NBA his first two years and he"s been clutch ever since:

歐文生涯頭兩年他是NBA最大心臟的得分手，而且從那時開始他就這麼大心臟了：

（下圖為2011-2012，2012-2013賽季，每48分鐘的關鍵得分，歐文都排在聯盟第一，這裡的關鍵定義為比賽最後5分鐘內，分差5分以內時的表現）

[–]CavaliersCavs4life2016 23 指標 6小時前*

Holy shit. Where can you access this for previous years?

Edit: holy fucking Christ, Kobe is clutch as hell.

Beyond that, I vividly remember James being so fucking confident in 08-09, but his clutch numbers suddenly dropped.

卧槽，你從哪兒拿到的前幾年的數據？

PS：日尼乃乃，科比也很大心臟。

此外，我清楚的記得詹姆斯在08-09賽季自信的一比，但他的關鍵時刻的數據突然就下滑了。

[–]RocketsDustyShot 14 指標 6小時前

About Kobe, he scores a lot in the clutch because that"s when he plans to take a lot of shots. He knows he can pass early on and the ball will come to him at the end of the game. If you want to add another dimension to your opinion of his clutch-ness, also look at efficiency numbers for "clutch" situations.

Not saying he isn"t clutch, but just add nuance to your opinion.

談到科比，他在關鍵時刻得分很多是因為他在那些時刻出手很多。

他知道他在比賽前期可以傳球，而到了比賽的尾聲球會來到他的手上。如果你想要談他的關鍵能力，要在你的觀點上再加一個方面，也要看看關鍵時刻下他的效率值。

不是說他不大心臟，而只是在你的觀點上加一些細小的因素。

[–]CavaliersCavs4life2016 7 指標 5小時前

His numbers in those years were pretty damn good.... Efficency is great but production is the most important. Especially considering most of those shots are created by himself.

那些年科比的數據太TM好了…效率好當然好，但產出才最重要，尤其考慮到大部分投籃機會是他自己創造出來的。

[–]RocketsDustyShot 11 指標 5小時前

Since both teams in a game get roughly the same number of possessions, I would argue that efficiency is VERY important in every situation in a game. It is basically the point of the game. Who gets the ball in the basket better than the other team. It"s literally how we judge players.

The more shots you get, sure you will produce more. It"s damn hard to be able to create that many shots and he"s a legend for it, but that doesn"t change the fact that he wasn"t efficient.

因為雙方球隊在比賽中的回合數大體相當，所以我會說效率在比賽的每個情形下都非常重要，基本上這就是比賽的關鍵點，誰的投籃命中率比其他球隊更好，這就是我們評判球員的方式。

你得到的投籃機會越多，那你的產出肯定會更多，能創造出那麼多的投籃機會TM太難了，而科比就是這方面的傳奇，但這絲毫不會改變他不高效的事實。

[–]CavaliersCavs4life2016 10 指標 5小時前*

Nah, production beats all. If you can produce in those moments, your entire offensive approach become much easier to execute.

His efg%

In 2008-2009, 51% 2009-2010, 49% 2010-2011, 45% 2011-2012, 40% 2012-2013, 48%

Other than 2011-2012, they are all pretty damn great considering his volume and production. Are we looking at the same numbers?

Edit: FYI, no one beats those productions while maintaining Kobe"s volume

不對，產出高於一切。如果你在那些時刻可以做出貢獻，你的整個進攻方式就變得更容易去執行。

科比的關鍵時刻有效命中率：

2008-2009賽季的51%，2009-2010的49%，2010-2011賽季的45%，2011-2012賽季的40%，2012-2013賽季的48%。。除去2011-2012，這些都尼瑪非常出色了，考慮到科比的出手數量和產出。你跟我看的是同一個數據嗎？如果保持科比的出手數量，那沒人能做到比這個產出更牛逼了。

[–]Cavaliersdaveed1297 45 指標 7小時前

This chart which is now out of date was posted on this sub two weeks ago. It highlights his insane ability to score with superb efficiency when it counts.

Anecdotally he also hit the game winning shot in Game 7 which was insane.

這表格現在過時了，兩周前在這區里發過的。這表還算數時突出了了他極其高效變態的得分能力。

歐文在G7也命中了絕殺，太變態了。

[–]CavaliersFL14 3 指標 4小時前

Holy shit.

卧槽。

[–]MavericksPilot_G3 162 指標 7小時前

Him and Westbrook this season have done some insane shit in the 4th

這個賽季歐文和威少在第四節都打出了一些變態的表現。

[–]ChaosIsAStepLadder 188 指標 7小時前

Westbrook has also been terrible with the game winning shots though

不過威少一直在絕殺球的表現上很糟糕。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookSluggaSlime 54 指標 7小時前

Yea but he"s made the go ahead and tying shots all under 30 secs. He"s had like 3 instances of game winners and the last one against the Hawks he got fouled.

是的，但威少命中了反超的投籃以及扳平的投籃都是在30秒內的，他有大概三次的絕殺表現，而且上一次打老鷹的時候他被犯規了。

[–][LAL] Larry Nance Jr.wwgaray 20 指標 7小時前

The last time we played you Westbrook fucked us in the last two minutes. He just missed his final shot iirc. He definitely does some insane shit in the clutch. And some stupid shit. But mostly insanely good shit.

上一場窩湖打你雷，威少在最後兩分鐘狂草窩湖，如果我沒記錯的話，他只投丟了最後一球，在關鍵時刻他肯定打出了一些變態的表現，還有一些腦殘的表現，但大部分都是極其好的表現。

[–]Netsregnagleppod1128 15 指標 7小時前

Westbrook shot selection is questionable from time to time, but he is still very clutch nevertheless. Kyrie on the other hand seems to understand his advantage and always take the best shot possible.

威少的投籃選擇經常有待商榷，但不管怎樣他還是非常大心臟的。另一方面，歐文似乎知道他的長處，而且總是儘可能選擇最好的投籃機會。

[–]Bullscsun723 4 指標 6小時前

Mini mamba. He"s a straight killer

迷你曼巴，歐文就是個殺手。

[–]NBAwilonwheels 2 指標 5小時前

Mamba-mentality

曼巴精神。

[–]San Diego ClippersPMinisterOfMalaysia 5 指標 7小時前

Yeah. He stepped it up in the finals and today more than any other Cleveland player. Dude carries his team when he has to. Not saying others don"t contribute, Kyrie just has a bigger impact.

是啊，他在總決賽以及今天的比賽中挺身而出的次數比其他騎士球員都更多，當需要的時候他能扛起球隊，不是說其他球員都不貢獻，歐文只是影響更大而已。

[–]ThunderZenWizdom 12 指標 7小時前

One thing is for sure, he"s definitely more clutch than Durant or Curry

有一件事是可以肯定的，歐文肯定比杜蘭特和庫里更大心臟。

[–]HawksEarthboun4 18 指標 7小時前

Nah Lebron is The Clutchest player in the league

不是，詹姆斯才是聯盟最大心臟的球員。

[–]Cavaliersthisisbray 11 指標 3小時前

I want Kyrie taking the game winner over LeBron.

騎士密：投絕殺球的選擇上，我覺得歐文排在詹姆斯之前。

[–]Spurssiphillis 4 指標 1小時前

I"d want LeBron to make the game-winning play over Kyrie.

刺蜜：在絕殺戰術的組織上，我覺得詹姆斯排在歐文之前。

[–]Cavaliers2uneek 1 指標 49 分鐘前

so a lebron dish to an open Kyrie? perfect!

那詹姆斯做球傳給空位的歐文怎麼樣？簡直完美！

[–]RocketsHarden-Soul 1 指標 7小時前

Kyrie"s pretty damn clutch. Idk who the most is, but I watch a lot of Harden and he"s always making big plays for us when we need them. Difficult to say one guy is more clutch than another tho when you get to the top tier clutch players.

歐文太TM大心臟了，我不知道誰最大心臟，但我看了很多哈登的比賽，而且當窩火需要的時候，他總是為窩火打出關鍵的進攻，不過當你提到的是頂級的大心臟球員時，很難說這個球員比另外的球員更大心臟。

[–][WAS] Otto PorterZomby24 20 指標 7小時前

Paul Pierce is still technically in the league

嚴格來說，皮爾斯還在聯盟。

[–]WarriorsGrochen 11 指標 7小時前

Lol now that I think of it I finally understand how Raptors fans feel about Paul Pierce.

勇蜜：哈哈哈，我現在想想終於理解猛龍球迷對皮爾斯感受了。

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