阿杜說聯盟勢力失衡不怪他，那究竟是什麼原因造成NBA兩極分化？

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阿杜說聯盟勢力失衡不怪他，那究竟是什麼原因造成NBA兩極分化？

KD says he"s not to blame for NBA"s parity problems: "Am I the reason Brooklyn gave all their picks to Boston?" (bleacherreport.com)

杜蘭特說他並不是現在聯盟失衡的原因所在：「難道籃網是因為我的原因而把自己所有的選秀權送去了凱爾特人嗎？」

[–]Nets BandwagonSwoah 386 指標 21小時前

The fuck we do to you

網蜜：特么的我們招惹你了嗎？

[–]SagerG 35 指標 16小時前

You guys are so bad you need acknowledgement.

你們只是太爛了，需要一些致謝罷了。

[–]LakersBromine21 1098 指標 23小時前

Damn BKN caught in the crossfire.

見鬼，籃網躺著也能中槍啊。

[–]Netsj_cruise 694 指標 23小時前

smh we"re just trying to mind our own business and distance ourselves from the Billy King era and we keep getting dragged down

網蜜：我們只是努力想要做好自己的工作，並逐漸遠離比利-金的時代，然而卻不斷的被人嘲諷。

[–]Heatmitch-b 815 指標 23小時前

Ahhh, so we blame Pierce, KG, and Jason Terry for the NBA"s parity problem.

額，所以我們應該去怪罪皮爾斯，KG以及特里咯，因為他們導致了聯盟的失衡。

[–][BOS] Paul PierceAphiTrickNet 220 指標 22小時前

If Jason Terry didn"t beat that Heat team and LeBron got his first ring everything would have been different /s

如果特里沒有擊敗那支熱火，勒布朗拿到了自己的第一枚總冠軍的話，後面的一切都會不同。

[–]Celtics Bandwagonteh_noob 14 指標 14小時前

If Pierce and KG hadn"t stopped LeBron from making the Finals in 2008 and 2010 things might have been different.

如果皮爾斯和KG沒有在2008年和2010年阻止勒布朗進入總決賽的話，一切可能也會不一樣。

[–][SEA] Ray Allenreality_czech 2939 指標 1 天前

The massive increase in salary cap in recent years and teams "gaming" the Bird rights system allows this to happen the last 10 years

最近這些年來工資帽的大幅上漲以及球隊的鳥權系統使得這種超級球隊能夠在最近10年出現。

[–]Ramy_ 2037 指標 21小時前*

Also the "max salary" where players are capped out so LeBron makes the exact same salary as a guy whose the 20th best player in the league.

If LeBron was paid what he"s really worth they wouldn"t be able to afford the rest of his supporting cast.

另外球員們選擇離開母隊後所能拿到的「頂薪」也是原因之一，從而勒布朗當時離開後拿的錢和聯盟里大概第20好的球員拿的一樣。

如果勒布朗拿到了和他身價真正相符的薪水的話，那麼球隊就無法承擔剩下隊友們的合同了。

[–]CelticsJohnFKennnedy 1238 指標 21小時前*

If they eliminated the max contract and kept the salary cap, the NBA would see much greater parity because players like LeBron, KD, Steph would be getting paid 40+ million every year.

But the supporting players don"t want to see their salaries depleted by those huge contracts, and the owners don"t mind knowing exactly what to pay their best players.

如果聯盟取消了頂薪規定，但同時保持工資帽不變，那麼NBA將會看到更多的均衡，因為像勒布朗，杜蘭特和庫里這樣的球員每年將會拿到超過4000萬的薪水。

但是角色球員則不想看到因為巨額的合同而使得他們自身所能拿到的薪水大幅減少，同時球隊老闆們也不在意知道他們具體需要給最好的球員們付多少錢。

[–]Rockets_Freshly_Snipes 663 指標 21小時前

That would be a really interesting change. Would a Prime Bron be worth 40% of your cap? I lean towards yes.

那樣的話真的會是個很有趣的改革，你覺得勒布朗值得上工資帽的40%嗎？我傾向於同意。

[–]BullsMigratedCoconut 795 指標 20小時前

Yes, because everyone else is paying what a player is worth too. No one could afford the 3 superstar super team so having the biggest star is a huge advantage.

是的，那樣的話每支球隊都會給球員開出他值得上的合同，從而沒有人能夠承擔得起擁有3個超級球星的超級球隊了，擁有最厲害的球星則會變成一個巨大的優勢。

[–][GSW] Calbert Cheaneyswollencornholio 132 指標 21小時前

NBAPA would never go for it. All the other players not in the top 10% would get screwed by some of these massive contracts. They would need more flexibility on the salary cap in order for the NBAPA to agree.

球員工會永遠不會同意這個的，那樣的話除了頂尖10%的球員外，所有的其他球員都會因為這些巨額合同而在利益上收到極大的衝擊。想要取消頂薪的話，聯盟需要制定更加靈活的工資帽去讓球員工會同意。

[–]CavaliersHoser117 64 指標 22小時前

I think a bigger contributor to KD joining was Curry"s contract. The timing there with him breaking out right after his ankle issues disappeared and then the cap jump makes his contract insanely cheap. He"s making less than half of what Conley is getting paid right now just as an example.

我覺得促成杜蘭特加盟的一個更重要的原因便是庫里現在的合同，庫里簽下這份合同後對於腳踝傷勢的突然擺脫，以及之後聯盟工資帽的大幅跳躍都讓他的合同看起來驚人的便宜。簡單做個對比，庫里現在的薪水比康利的一半還要少。

[–]Celticssahsan10 1645 指標 23小時前

How? The parity problem is the top of the league, not the bottom. There are always bottom feeders in the NBA. There are not always 70 win teams sweeping to the finals

為什麼不是因為他？失衡是指聯盟強隊之間的不平衡，和墊底的球隊又沒有關係。NBA里總會有墊底的送經驗的爛隊，但是並不總是會有這樣70勝的球隊一路橫掃進入總決賽的。

[–]KnicksMethodman6 955 指標 23小時前*

Yeah what the fuck is he saying? "I couldn"t have made the entire East better"? No, you could have made the Wizards or Celtics better, so LeBron would have a real challenger. Or just stayed in OKC and not making the West a one team show.

It could have been something like SAS, GSW, CLE, BOS/OKC all competing for a title. Now we only have two real teams.

是的，杜蘭特他說的什麼鬼來著？「我無法讓整個東部變得更好？」錯，你可以讓奇才或是凱爾特人變得更好，從而勒布朗便有了一個真正的對手。或者就留在雷霆，別讓西部成為單一球隊的表演舞台。

本來聯盟可以成為馬刺，勇士，騎士，凱爾特人/雷霆一起去爭奪冠軍的局面，但是現在我們只有兩支真正的爭冠者了。

[–][DET] Chauncey Billupsharbaughkhakis2017 431 指標 22小時前

I get that but it"s not kd"s job to go make more parity in the NBA. It"s his job to go to the team he feels like is the best fit for him. It"s Washington, Boston and okc" managements job to convince kd that their team is the best fit.

我知道這些，但是讓NBA更加平衡並不是杜蘭特的工作，他的工作在於選擇一支最適合自己的球隊。反而是奇才，凱爾特人和雷霆管理層才需要去說服杜蘭特，那就是他們的球隊才是最適合他的。

[–]KnicksMethodman6 362 指標 22小時前

They tried, and he decided to take what might be the easiest path in history of the NBA to the championship. It"s not his responsibility, just his decision.

這些球隊都儘力了，但是杜蘭特決定選擇這條也許是NBA歷史上最簡單的通往總冠軍的道路。這並不是他的責任，只是他的選擇罷了。

[–]RocketsBalls_4 139 指標 22小時前

He"s going to win a ring and he"s going to go down as an all time great but I think he"ll also be remembered as someone who could have been better or done more. He"s been dominant on the Warriors but he hasn"t had a game that seemed career defining or memorable. He"s always "quietly" putting up 30+ points.

It"s only held against him because he"s so skilled.

He"s held to a higher standard and he should be. More is expected of him.

杜蘭特會得到一枚總冠軍戒指，也會成為史上最佳之一，但是我認為他也會被人們看作本能夠做得更好，或是得到更多成就的球員。他在勇士的表現一直都很有統治力，但是目前為止他還沒有在這裡打出一場能夠定義整個職業生涯，被人們所銘記的比賽。他總是「默默」得砍下30+的得分。

只是因為他太出色了，所以人們才會針對他。

杜蘭特面對著一個更高的評價標準，而且他也理應受到這樣的待遇，他被期待著做更多的事情。

[–]Spurshks1994 227 指標 21小時前

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING BALANCE TO THE WEST, NOT DESTROY IT!

你（杜蘭特）應該去給西部帶來平衡，而不是摧毀它！

[–][SAS] Tim Duncancanond08 677 指標 23 小時前

Just because KD killed a true contender in the West doesn"t make him responsible for the East

僅僅因為KD在西部殺死了一個真正的爭冠者並不代表著他應該為東部的不平衡負責。

[–]KingsPopeyeJonesesBigHead 314 指標 23小時前

What? You couldn"t stack a Warriors team like that even if you tried. Even if you made every right move the odds of being able to stack 4 max players on one team are slim to none. And TWO of those max players being 2 of the top 3 in the league.

Before this signing I thought here was the likelihood here are the teams I thought realistically had a chance:

Warriors, Cavs, Spurs, Thunder (or Celtics depending on who he signed with), and Clippers (barring injury).

After the signing it"s just Cavs Warriors.That"s a parity problem.

啥？就算你非常的努力，也不太可能再次組建一支現在這樣的勇士。就算你每一步都做對了，在一支球隊中擁有4名頂薪球員的可能性也幾乎為零，更不用提其中的2名球員處於聯盟前3中。

在杜蘭特加盟前，我覺得下面這幾支球隊在真正意義上有奪冠的可能：

勇士，騎士，馬刺，雷霆（或者凱爾特人，取決於杜蘭特和誰簽約），以及快船（被傷病毀了）。

但是在杜蘭特簽約之後就只有騎士和勇士了，這便造成了平衡問題了。

[–]A_Wealthy_Benefactor 228 指標 20小時前

If you made every right move, you might be able to have Durant, Westbrook, and Harden on the same team.

如果你每一步都能走對的話，你也許能夠把杜蘭特，威少和哈登留在同一支球隊里。

[–]KingsPopeyeJonesesBigHead 84 指標 20小時前

And then add Kawhi Leonard? Because that js basically what has happened.

然後再選中倫納德？因為這就是一切正確的話會發生的事情。

[–]ZandrickEllison 2956 指標 23 小時前

The NBA should blame themselves for the parity problems. if you didn"t have "max" salaries, you wouldn"t be able to house 3 superstars on the same team.

關於失衡的問題NBA應該去責怪自己，如果你沒有頂薪的限制，你便無法在同一支球隊里留下3名超級球星。

[–]Rocketssplanket 447 指標 22小時前

Truthfully it"s a basketball problem more than an NBA problem. The better team wins in basketball far more than any other major sport.

老實講，這更像是一個籃球問題，而不是NBA的問題。在籃球中更好的球隊的贏球概率比其他任何體育都要高。

[–]egcg119 333 指標 21小時前

Law of large numbers, right? With so many points scored, the balance inevitably tips towards the better team over time. Interesting point, never thought of that.

大數定理，對吧？考慮到雙方得了這麼多的分，那麼平衡必然會偏向於更好的那一方。很有趣的觀點，從來沒有想到這個。

[–]Rocketssplanket 218 指標 20小時前

Yeah, the "sample size" if you will of a basketball game is so much bigger than in other sports. Football for example one turnover can totally swing the game especially if it"s a pick six or something. In basketball even the biggest mistake you can make would only give the other team 3 points while you missed out on a few yourself. You can see this reflected in yearly records, there"s almost always a 60 win team in the NBA, but you almost never see teams win 70% or more of their games in other leagues (except the NFL which is only 16 games so a couple 12-4 or better teams isn"t super surprising)

是的，籃球比賽中的「樣本容量」比其他的體育要大得多。拿橄欖球做個比方，任何一個失誤便有可能完全的扭轉比賽局面，尤其是一記pick-six，或是其他類似的回合。在籃球中，你能犯得最大的錯誤也就只是讓對手命中幾記三分，並且自己投丟幾個。你也可以從每年的比賽記錄中看出問題來，幾乎每年NBA都會有60勝的球隊，但是在其他的聯賽中，你幾乎找不到一個賽季里贏下70%比賽或更多的球隊（除了NFL之外，因為只有16場比賽，所以一些戰績12-4或者更出色的球隊並不是特別令人吃驚）。

[–][TOR] Alvin Williamshomer62 46 指標 19小時前

He didn"t cause it but he"s become the definitive example of why it sucks. Seriously how do you lose to them, the historic 2016 Warriors, and then join them as the most recent MVP? Its just so lopsided and un-fun for anyone not a Warriors fan. Easy way out bro. Shortcuts.

杜蘭特沒有讓聯盟失衡，但是顯然他已經變成了聯盟失衡的定義。講道理，你是如何能夠在2016年輸給那支史詩般的勇士後，在身為最近幾年的MVP的情況下加入他們的？這對於除勇士球迷之外的任何人來說都是非常不平衡，而且無趣的。看淡點吧，大兄弟，這就是選捷徑的後果。

[–][GSW] Ian Clarkoscarony 331 指標 22小時前

Yeah people here love acting like Lebron didn"t try to do the exact same thing.

是的，然而這裡的人們表現得好像勒布朗沒有做同樣的事情似的。

[–]Lakers Bandwagonram0h 433 指標 22小時前

Lebron didn"t try, he succeeded at creating a super team and screwing up parity.

勒布朗真沒有，他成功的創造了一支超級球隊，並打亂了原有的均衡。

[–]CavaliersEmTens 220 指標 21小時前

KG, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen did it first.

KG，皮爾斯，雷-阿倫是最開始做這件事情的人。

[–]2heads1shaft 11 指標 20小時前

They didn"t collude. They got traded. Also at the ends of their primes.

他們沒有組團，他們是被交易到一起的，同時也都處於巔峰的末期了。

[–]Bullstrapper2530 124 指標 21小時前

I think becuase they were older and got traded people seem to care less. They were starting the back end of their careers. And playing styler actually complimented each other. Now you get guys leaving after their first contract is up when they are 25/26.

我覺得因為凱爾特人的三巨頭的年齡都更加大，並且是被交易到一起的，所以人們便不那麼針對他們。他們在各自生涯的末期才開始爭冠之旅，而且各自的風格剛好能夠互補。而現在你看到球員們在他們的第一份合同結束後，僅僅只有25/26歲時就跑去抱團了。

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